@ballpeen said:

Ballpeen knows all....ok,  I don't.  I just knew about that.  It's been that way for a few years now.   It may seem unfair, but overall I like the rule.     Teams can retain players.  Why not be able to retain coaching talent?

And I bow to your knowledge on the subject.    As I said, I had thought that the NFL considered a move from a position coach to a coordinator's job as a promotion......but NOOOOOO (to quote mjp's avatar).....I guess they see it merely as a lateral move.

@hoorta said:

I don't know if it's "definitive" but it's all I could come up with...  

NFL rules regarding hiring assistant coaches to lateral moves

LATERAL OPPORTUNITIES

Assistant coach to Non Head Coach opportunities

Note: “promotions” to coordinator level are NOT promotions under this policy; a coach is either an Assistant Coach or a Head Coach, period.

Teams retain exclusive rights to an Assistant Coach who just completed the final season under contract until:

The Tuesday following 15 days after the final Monday Night Football game of the regular season, if the Assistant Coaches team is not in the playoffs

The 3rd Tuesday after the Assistant Coaches final playoff game (including Super Bowl), but in no event later than the expiration date in the coaches contract.

This 3 week exclusivity period CAN be waived by the coach’s team.

Coaches Not Under Written Contract:

If an Assistant Coach is working without a contract in effect (i.e., hasn’t yet signed his deal, his old deal lapsed, no new deal reached, but he’s still working for the club), permission MUST be granted even if coach continues to be paid on a non contract basis, and even if it is after March 1st.

Any Assistant Coach not under contract by the time preseason training camp begins is not permitted to participate until his written contract is signed and approved by the League office.

So assistant coaches in the NFL cannot leave their team unless granted permission or following the expiration of their contracts unless they are hiring for HEAD COACHING POSITIONS

Ballpeen knows all....ok,  I don't.  I just knew about that.  It's been that way for a few years now.   It may seem unfair, but overall I like the rule.     Teams can retain players.  Why not be able to retain coaching talent?

Per this....IF Munchak is not signed to a contract for this next year,  his current contract would have expired  as of 15 days after the last Monday Night Football game....which was played on December 24.....

So, as of January 8th  he would be a free agent coach   (again...IF he has no deal with the Steelers)

IF he has no contract with them....he is free to sign on with the Browns...even as a lateral move, no?  (OL coach to OL coach).  

What I am saying is that I respect what this guy has been doing, and I believe he is responsible to a great degree for that team's current (offensive) success.   And I would like to see him get out of there.

@the-gipper said:

Not sure if Munchak is under contract with Pittsshit.   If so, he would not be available apparently.

Per Ballpeen...and I am still not sure I buy this.....you cannot make a move from a position coach job (like OC coach, which Munchak is)  to a coordinator position (which we would want)   without the permission of the team he is with.  Only to HC can that be done.  And the Spermsuckers would certainly not give the Browns permission to interview Munchak for our OC if they could avoid it. 

So....we need a definitive answer on this "lateral move" rule.   Is or is not going from a position coach to a coordinator still just considered to be a lateral move?

I don't know if it's "definitive" but it's all I could come up with...  

NFL rules regarding hiring assistant coaches to lateral moves

LATERAL OPPORTUNITIES

Assistant coach to Non Head Coach opportunities

Note: “promotions” to coordinator level are NOT promotions under this policy; a coach is either an Assistant Coach or a Head Coach, period.

Teams retain exclusive rights to an Assistant Coach who just completed the final season under contract until:

The Tuesday following 15 days after the final Monday Night Football game of the regular season, if the Assistant Coaches team is not in the playoffs

The 3rd Tuesday after the Assistant Coaches final playoff game (including Super Bowl), but in no event later than the expiration date in the coaches contract.

This 3 week exclusivity period CAN be waived by the coach’s team.

Coaches Not Under Written Contract:

If an Assistant Coach is working without a contract in effect (i.e., hasn’t yet signed his deal, his old deal lapsed, no new deal reached, but he’s still working for the club), permission MUST be granted even if coach continues to be paid on a non contract basis, and even if it is after March 1st.

Any Assistant Coach not under contract by the time preseason training camp begins is not permitted to participate until his written contract is signed and approved by the League office.

So assistant coaches in the NFL cannot leave their team unless granted permission or following the expiration of their contracts unless they are hiring for HEAD COACHING POSITIONS

@ap1 said:

Is it out of the realm of possibility to think that a Hall of Famer, like Munchak, who has been a Head Coach, to be a position coach?

If Freddie is going to call plays why not make Munchak OL Coach/OC?

Not sure if Munchak is under contract with Pittsshit.   If so, he would not be available apparently.

Per Ballpeen...and I am still not sure I buy this.....you cannot make a move from a position coach job (like OC coach, which Munchak is)  to a coordinator position (which we would want)   without the permission of the team he is with.  Only to HC can that be done.  And the Spermsuckers would certainly not give the Browns permission to interview Munchak for our OC if they could avoid it. 

So....we need a definitive answer on this "lateral move" rule.   Is or is not going from a position coach to a coordinator still just considered to be a lateral move?

If Freddie is going to call plays why not make Munchak OL Coach/OC?

@darren15 said:

I would still...at this point, like to see Munchak get one of the other jobs, just to get him out of Pisstown.

What jobs are left open?    Dolphins?  Bengals?

@darren15 said:

He really messed up this time, if he had any credibility left it just evaporated 

@flyingfooldoug said:

Then they must be keeping it a secret about Flores. Unless someone was wrong. Or are they gonna wait till Valentine’s Day to announce it?  I heard that we might go for the Vince Lombardi hologram too. I guess he works for 1966 dollars. I myself would prefer the Paul Brown hologram but hey

I'd rather watch the Jenna Jameson (in her XXX prime) hologram.?

@gumby73 said:

Just confirmed by 7 in browns media Eberflus done today & Browns website also.. McCarthy or Kitchens Monday.. 6 and counting 

Then they must be keeping it a secret about Flores. Unless someone was wrong. Or are they gonna wait till Valentine’s Day to announce it?  I heard that we might go for the Vince Lombardi hologram too. I guess he works for 1966 dollars. I myself would prefer the Paul Brown hologram but hey

@clevfan4life said:

We're interviewing eberfluss today?

Just confirmed by 7 in browns media Eberflus done today & Browns website also.. McCarthy or Kitchens Monday.. 6 and counting 

@dutch-oven said:

Gregg Williams did a great job as interim head coach, but the guy is so full of shit about having to use a baseball bat to keep all the head coaching offers away from him. 

I could see him having some unofficial phone calls (or official) without a doubt. Why wouldn’t he considering what a turn around of events from one coach to another. I still want to see at least one season of him at HC and kitchens as OC 

@darren15 said:

So if this supposed source is true I expect the interview with the Colts coordinator for this afternoon will be cancelled and we will announce Flores today ? if not why are we messing around doing anymore interviews

Because you can't offer a coach a contract until his team is eliminated from the playoffs. 

And Dorsey has yet to interview Kitchens.

@tacosman said:

lmao....these are the same HC positions he 'didn't even have to show up for an interview' right?  Just 'pick up the phone'?

I'd say the chance of bounty hunter lying about that was about the same as Donald Trump lying....take that as you want.

Gregg Williams did a great job as interim head coach, but the guy is so full of shit about having to use a baseball bat to keep all the head coaching offers away from him. 

@broganreynik said:

It sure is. I couldn’t remember what it was specifically 

Genisys is Skynet

@tacosman said:

lmao....these are the same HC positions he 'didn't even have to show up for an interview' right?  Just 'pick up the phone'?

I'd say the chance of bounty hunter lying about that was about the same as Donald Trump lying....take that as you want.

So then Terry Pluto is a liar too? What’s the real story then? I’m curious to know. Do you have inside info? Or just guessing?

@the-gipper said:

Sky net. Isn’t that from the Terminator 

It sure is. I couldn’t remember what it was specifically