@buck-the-frowns said:

Yep, no one will ever touch that record of going to the championship every year he played. Many good QBs had as many or more INT than TD in that era, because the rules were different. 

Ernie Davis was never drafted by the Browns, though.

Good points and great catch about Ernie so thanks.  He was drafted by the Washington Redskins with the 1st pick of the draft in December of 1961 where he was traded immediately thereafter to Cleveland.  I never knew that.   He was diagnosed with leukemia in the summer of 1962; and died in 1963 without ever playing in an NFL game.

@tour2ma said:

Makes you wonder if Washington knew something...

From what I remember, it was their owner who was racist. He hadn't integrated and was told by someone he had to or would lose his stadium. But he wouldn't Draft a black man, so he left it up to his gm. They drafted him, but Davis said he wouldn't play for them because of this so Paul Brown made the trade (without the approval of Modell). 

@gunz41 said:

True, as in same way Eli was never drafted by Giants

Makes you wonder if Washington knew something...

@buck-the-frowns said:

Yep, no one will ever touch that record of going to the championship every year he played. Many good QBs had as many or more INT than TD in that era, because the rules were different. 

Ernie Davis was never drafted by the Browns, though.

True, as in same way Eli was never drafted by Giants

Ernie Davis was never drafted by the Browns, though.

@mjp28 said:

A different era, only 12 games plus Otto never played in the NFL until he was 29.....and won it of course.

You can only play in the Era you live in.  They didn't baby QBs with extra protective rules also designed to promote more scoring when he played. They also didn't begin the rule that DBs can't bump Receivers after 5 yards back when Otto played, which didn't help the passers in his era.  Furthermore, the NFL only played 12 game seasons when Otto played.

Forget all that. Can you name me 1 other Pro Football QB that took his team to the Championship Game EVERY single season he played over the first 10 years of his career/the entire career?   After winning all 4 AAFC Championship Games - Otto and the Browns were told they didn't stand a chance against real pro football in the NFL.  That led to 6 straight NFL Championship appearances and winning 3 of them (inclusive of the very 1st appearance) despite the decline in his TD: INT ratio during that span.  Then again, check out Terry Bradshaw's numbers during his 1st 5 years in the NFL...

Otto also played Professional Basketball for the Rochester Royals back when they won the Championship.  After football, he became a golf pro at a country club in Sarasota where my dad got to meet his childhood idol.  Jim Brown played college football in Upstate NY (Syracuse).  SU's Heisman Trophy Winner Ernie Davis was also drafted by Cleveland before his terminal illness unfolded.  That sheds some light on why so many people in Western and Upstate NY took a peculiar interest in the Browns.  That and Rochester is just 4 hour car ride to Cleveland while it takes anywhere from 5-6 hours to drive to NY City. 

Even though many hail Jim Brown as the best football player that ever lived (and rightfully so) - when you really think about it, Otto Graham was more influential to this franchise winning than Jim Brown ever was (albeit different eras).  Regardless of era, an intelligent GM still drafts QB Baker Mayfield in lieu of RB Saquon Barkley with the #1pick. That's why Dorsey's team improved by 7 wins...

As does this one...

      this is midway into video..backup at your choice... A true Cleveland Brown finally gets his Day ?