@baconhound said:

I'd bet against a successful NFL career for Murray but wouldn't call him an idiot.  He may very well get bounced out of the NFL in 3-4 years and go play baseball at 28

He actually didn't look that bad for his first ever start and the only #1 QB pick to tie in his first start. Most lose going way back in time.

Throws a nice spinner!

@londonbrown said:

This guy is fucking tiny ! 

Looks like a 15 year old out there 

A tiny kid with a huge head. 

Looks like a 15 year old out there 

@bjh2130 said:

Of comments that I have seen most players that had the option to play both but chose football have said that if they could go back they would have played baseball. But again that just might be the grass is greener on the other side type thing. I haven't actually seen any players that could have played both but chose baseball comment on this. Like I want to see what Jeff Samardzija, Kirk Gibson Todd Helton etc would say.

I think that probably goes with the length of career which will most often be longer in baseball than football.     Although watching two 40+ year old QB's play yesterday, the NFL QB's career can certainly last longer than it used to in the old days.  That just doesn't apply to other positions in football though.   As long as a guy can hit or get guys out (even for 1 inning) your baseball career can last quite awhile.

@mark-o said:

It did go downhill quite quickly. 

For added fuel to the fire.  Read somewhere today that Antwaan Randle El who was drafted in both football and baseball said if he could do it over, he'd play baseball instead.   So there's that. 

Of comments that I have seen most players that had the option to play both but chose football have said that if they could go back they would have played baseball. But again that just might be the grass is greener on the other side type thing. I haven't actually seen any players that could have played both but chose baseball comment on this. Like I want to see what Jeff Samardzija, Kirk Gibson Todd Helton etc would say.

@dutch-oven said:

Sigh.

That's all I can say about this. 

Sigh. 

It did go downhill quite quickly. 

For added fuel to the fire.  Read somewhere today that Antwaan Randle El who was drafted in both football and baseball said if he could do it over, he'd play baseball instead.   So there's that. 

That's all I can say about this. 

Sigh. 

@bjh2130 said:

No one was talking about why. No one cared about why. that was not part of the discussion until you brought it up. It had nothing to do with debate/conversation.

Like I give a fuck. I was talking about it I brought it up and deal with that. 

@the-gipper said:

So they are right there. A baseball player does on average make more than the average football player. And I am right the reason they make more is because the roster size of football are so much larger ,over double then a baseball team. I think only person who’s arguing anything is yourself with yourself.  Maybe as English say you should keep yourself to yourself before you confuse yourself

No one was talking about why. No one cared about why. that was not part of the discussion until you brought it up. It had nothing to do with debate/conversation.

@bjh2130 said:

There aren't any statistics. There are multiple people on this thread stating that he would make more money in football than in baseball. Which is why Dutch/flying said on average baseball players make more than football players. Then you go and start spouting your nonsensical shit about roster size and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. I didn't see Dutch/flying say anything about roster size or cap room you just brought that up yourself. All I saw them state was it the average salary of an MLB player is higher than the average salary of an NFL player

So they are right there. A baseball player does on average make more than the average football player. And I am right the reason they make more is because the roster size of football are so much larger ,over double then a baseball team. I think only person who’s arguing anything is yourself with yourself.  Maybe as English say you should keep yourself to yourself before you confuse yourself

@the-gipper said:

Really. If they are arguing that where are the statistics that support it. Show me where Anywhere or football players make more on average than baseball players. I’m perfectly willing to see those statistics

There aren't any statistics. There are multiple people on this thread stating that he would make more money in football than in baseball. Which is why Dutch/flying said on average baseball players make more than football players. Then you go and start spouting your nonsensical shit about roster size and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. I didn't see Dutch/flying say anything about roster size or cap room you just brought that up yourself. All I saw them state was it the average salary of an MLB player is higher than the average salary of an NFL player

@texasag1969 said:

What did you expect from a MahOUmo fan?

Is he in OU fan I don’t know about that I don’t care what team is a fan of he has to be realistic about the draft.  I know that the prejudice against shorter quarterbacks maybe going out the window. But I’m not sure that applies yet to a guy that’s like 5 foot seven

@dutch-oven said:

The entire crux of this argument is that a person is or not nuts by deciding to choose playing football professionally over baseball. 

Arguments for baseball include: Less chance for catastrophic injury, better long-term health and a higher salary on average. 

Totally agree.  Long term, more money in baseball assuming he makes it to the majors but no guarantee there that he does, plenty of first round picks don't make it.   Immediately, he will make more money playing in the NFL. 

@the-gipper said:

I believe you’re comments  here means you have absolutely no credibility. I would wager a picture of margaritas that you were wrong

What did you expect from a MahOUmo fan?

@pat-mahomo said:

I have no dog in the fight.  I assume you are an Ohio state fan.  I like Haskins.  I believe he’ll be the second QB off the board and be a top 5 pick if not 2nd overall.  Someone will trade into the top 5 for him.  

I do think Murray is the best in this group even if he is short. And I believe Arizona will trade Rosen and go with Murray.

I believe you’re comments  here means you have absolutely no credibility. I would wager a picture of margaritas that you were wrong

@bjh2130 said:

There are people debating exactly that. But again you have an incessant need to be right. 

Really. If they are arguing that where are the statistics that support it. Show me where Anywhere or football players make more on average than baseball players. I’m perfectly willing to see those statistics

@pat-mahomo said:

Murray is giong to go 1/1 to Arizona.

Let me see-a college HC who got his job at TT based on JM streetwalking his offense, plus Huey Bad News Brownie-ex plus a diminutive QB who will be broken apart with the first blindside hit from a 250 pro LB running a 4.5 40 speed right through him.

I see nothing that could go wrong here.  ??

@hoorta said:

No he's not- at least with Rosen on the roster. Damn debatable if he's a better prospect....  

NBA has a 12? man roster spread out over 82 games. The NFL has a 52 man roster over 16 games.  The math is pretty simple....   

Of course, it's what  Gip does...  Sure, once you make it to the Bigs, a scrub MLB player will make more than a scrub NFL player. Ditto that for anyone in the NBA.  But it's comparative value and roster size what dictates what the scrubs are going to get paid.   

And yet the nfl owners make waaaaaay more than the other sports team owners. 

@pat-mahomo said:

Murray is giong to go 1/1 to Arizona.

I actually think he'll be a mid second rounder or be Mr. Irrelevant...

@the-gipper said:

A bit of a foolish statement don't you think?  

He won't be the first QB taken.  That will be Haskins.

I have no dog in the fight.  I assume you are an Ohio state fan.  I like Haskins.  I believe he’ll be the second QB off the board and be a top 5 pick if not 2nd overall.  Someone will trade into the top 5 for him.  

I do think Murray is the best in this group even if he is short. And I believe Arizona will trade Rosen and go with Murray.