@tiamat63 said:

Cool.   To come back around to the original point - Von isn't a fit in Cleveland not because of some scheme fit.  But involving a log jam at the position that would reduce snaps for a younger,  promising player.  

Even if we didnt have genard, id  be hesitant at his age. We need a bigger 5T type of 43LDE to shore up our run D. That and genard are a better compliment than paying 20m to a guy who's salary essenyially demands playing minutes im not sure wouldnt wesr him down too much. He's protected in Denver from doing too much heavy lifting.

@clevfan4life said:

Anybody can stand up at the line and either rush or drop....doesnt mean they're any good at it. Williams stood up zettel during the year....one of the reasons im not mad williams is gone.

Cool.   To come back around to the original point - Von isn't a fit in Cleveland not because of some scheme fit.  But involving a log jam at the position that would reduce snaps for a younger,  promising player.  

@tiamat63 said:

He can do a bit of both. 

Anybody can stand up at the line and either rush or drop....doesnt mean they're any good at it. Williams stood up zettel during the year....one of the reasons im not mad williams is gone.

@clevfan4life said:

Not a 34 package edge rusher tho right?

He can do a bit of both. 

@tiamat63 said:

Chris Smith comes to mind. 

Not a 34 package edge rusher tho right?

@clevfan4life said:

Maybe so, but he's "clearly" a 34 olb'er now. We already have a situational 34 rusher. 

^^^^^

@clevfan4life said:

I mentioned we already had a spot edge rusher, who else would i have been talking about but Genard?

Chris Smith comes to mind. 

@tiamat63 said:

I'm not arguing in favor of Miller,  I don't think it's a fit for reasons i was hoping you wouod mention - we have a promising 

I mentioned we already had a spot edge rusher, who else would i have been talking about but Genard?

Stick to the draft: LT, WR, DL, CB 

I believe in Dorsey. He’s respected & coveted around the league & he’s building it for the long haul.

@clevfan4life said:

Maybe so, but he's "clearly" a 34 olb'er now. We already have a situational 34 rusher. You dont pay a man that kibd of money to do spot rushing. Miller would have to be integrated into the base defense and im sorry, im not switching him to myles spot. We need to cater to myles skillset, not a 30 yr old who while still good...is not the Browns future. 

Why would we take that contract for a 30 yr old when those are the #'s Flowers is likely to command? Thats the only guy im willing to even think about paying that kind of money for.

I'm not arguing in favor of Miller,  I don't think it's a fit for reasons i was hoping you wouod mention - we have a promising Will edge rusher in Avery that provides great cost/performance value. 

Just relating that Miller,  despite his current role,  is more than capable of finding an impact spot in our current defense...  At the expense of a promising rookie snap count however. 

@tiamat63 said:

You must have missed his time in the league before Wade Philips.  

Maybe so, but he's "clearly" a 34 olb'er now. We already have a situational 34 rusher. You dont pay a man that kibd of money to do spot rushing. Miller would have to be integrated into the base defense and im sorry, im not switching him to myles spot. We need to cater to myles skillset, not a 30 yr old who while still good...is not the Browns future. 

Why would we take that contract for a 30 yr old when those are the #'s Flowers is likely to command? Thats the only guy im willing to even think about paying that kind of money for.

@hoorta said:

Fortunately we're not giving away a first round pick, and certainly not for Antonio Brown.

There isn't a chance in hell that the Steelers would trade Brown to a AFC North rival, especially the team with the best QB. 

@babernakle said:

If there going to give away a first round pick you go after Antonio brown. As far as free agents go I would go after trey flowers and earl Thomas 

Fortunately we're not giving away a first round pick, and certainly not for Antonio Brown.

@bjh2130 said:

We could not have gotten both. Which would you rather have baker or Barkley

          Warning...Warning...Abort Mission!  Abort Mission!!!

@poeticg said:

I'm sorry but Baker and Barkley would have been titties doggy. Annnnd we could have gotten Chubb right where we got him anyways  

We could not have gotten both. Which would you rather have baker or Barkley

@poeticg said:

I'm sorry but Baker and Barkley would have been titties doggy. Annnnd we could have gotten Chubb right where we got him anyways  

And it wouldn't have happened taking Baker #1 overall... 

@mjp28 said:

Which Chubb?

Poe wanted Baker Barkley and Nick Chubb in the second round is what he said at least that’s what I thought it said

@medicineman said:

Screw OBJ, He is a cry baby bitch plain and simple, fighting the kicking net, then wanting to bone the kicking net, he is always looking for a camera and all he cares about is himself I hate him

Make up sex with the kicking net to say he his sorry?

@the-gipper said:

Why would you take chubb if you had  already taken Barkley

Which Chubb?

@poeticg said:

I'm sorry but Baker and Barkley would have been titties doggy. Annnnd we could have gotten Chubb right where we got him anyways  

Why would you take chubb if you had  already taken Barkley

@choco said:

Y'all realize some players are friends with players of other teams, eight? That celebrating the end of the season is kinda normal? And that, while a 'cleveland is great' got thrown out, none of them has any sway on Dorsey and co.?

Sorry to rain on the parade...?

No shit Dick Tracy.. But speculation is fun...