@hoorta said:

If it makes you feel any better Clevefan... since it's now the silly season- go ahead and dredge up your same premise in a new thread that we should trade out of the first round.... I suspect it will have minimal interest...  And don't take it personal if one of your threads gets locked, or your posts get deleted... I heard after the fact from one of the other Mods you pissed him off enough that you got kicked off for a spell.....  

I didnt get timed out from anything in that thread, i havent gotten timed out from anything on the browns forum. My time outs happened from the poly board and nothing recent....so not sure what u heard. I want to be clear tho, i dont think this thread should have gotten locked at all... I was just ruminating on the vassilating standards that exist here. ?

@clevfan4life said:

So a thread i made opining the browns should "think" about trading out of the 1st gets locked, but a thread lamenting LAST years draft when we had arguably the greatest draft in browns history.....mayfield,ward,chub,avery....

This gets to stay? Really hoorta?

If it makes you feel any better Clevefan... since it's now the silly season- go ahead and dredge up your same premise in a new thread that we should trade out of the first round.... I suspect it will have minimal interest...  And don't take it personal if one of your threads gets locked, or your posts get deleted... I heard after the fact from one of the other Mods you pissed him off enough that you got kicked off for a spell.....  

@nero said:

This is one of those comments that you don't know if it is a compliment or just the opposite...

Maybe a little of both. Mostly, the timing was bad. After the Combine, look for all kinds of crazy draft talk and trades to pop up. 

@hoorta said:

You thread wasn't stupid enough to make fun of.... 

This is one of those comments that you don't know if it is a compliment or just the opposite...

@clevfan4life said:

So a thread i made opining the browns should "think" about trading out of the 1st gets locked, but a thread lamenting LAST years draft when we had arguably the greatest draft in browns history.....mayfield,ward,chub,avery....

This gets to stay? Really hoorta?

You thread wasn't stupid enough to make fun of.... 

This gets to stay? Really hoorta?

@leebladedawg said:

How I’m reading this is both would have been available at 1 and 4 so In that scenario why not 

I would have took that draft night 

Nope, it's the original poster fantasizing they both would have been available at #1 and #4. There were links to articles in this thread showing Mayfield would have certainly been taken at #3 by the Jets, if not at #2 by the Giants had we drafted Saquon at #1.

You have to draft a quarterback first if you don't have one, regardless of how great Barkley potentially was going to be. 

@leebladedawg said:

How I’m reading this is both would have been available at 1 and 4 so In that scenario why not 

I would have took that draft night 

Something maybe you can relate to:  this is like saying  "Imagine if I were from Liverpool and grew up in the 50s, and could play guitar.....maybe I could have become one of The Beatles...or at least part of Gerry and the Pacemakers.  

See how absurd all this speculation is?

I would have took that draft night 

@calfoxwc said:

"suppose, like, imagine if we could have traded all our future first round draft picks for the next ten years,

and then we had the first five picks in last years draft, and then, like, imagine we would have..."

never mind, I'm just not good at this crap.

Nope....you're just an old fuddy duddy.   Have to be a Madden playing schmoe to want to continually live in what if fantasy land.

and then we had the first five picks in last years draft, and then, like, imagine we would have..."

never mind, I'm just not good at this crap.

@kvoethe said:

Looking back...we could have had both easily.  No one was taking mayfield at 2 or 3.  Im not disappointed with what we have...just having some fun.  If anything...after a few years their contracts would be so expensive we wouldnt have been able to maintain it.

Thats one thing about Brady...he never bankrupted his team so they could stay competitive like flacco did

He may have gone 2 or 3, so if he's your man, take him.

As far as his contract goes, that is why you build as fast as you can NOW while you have him on his rookie contract. When it does come up, I'm sure he'll play ball, like Brady, because he wants to compete and he should have a shit ton of endorsement money coming in.

Let's face it, Flacco had nothing going for him other than that one postseason, the only thing he could endorse would maybe be an Ernie doll.

@mark-o said:

Please don't. 

I love it when you beg. 

@mark-o said:

Please don't. 

Sure, why not? It's part of the fun reason we eventually wound up going 0-16. I'll play Gipper's game for one year. Justin Gilbert or- ahem. Take your pick. Kahlil Mack, Aaron Donald, or Odell-Beckham. How's that for some crappy talent evaluation? Then we doubled down and took Johnny CFL on top of it. Um, instead of DeMarcus Lawrence or Derek Carr. 

@the-gipper said:

I could do this for the 60/70s/80s/90s/00s/10s.....and on and on and on.

Please don't. 

I think that if we looked at every single Browns draft going back to when they merged into the NFL in 1950....we could find a "What if"  draft in there.

I mean, we could start with the 50s,  why didn't we take:

1950 Ernie Stautner HOF over Ken Carpenter

1951 Dick Stanfel or Bill George both HOF over Ken Konz

1952 Gino Marchetti HOF over  Harry Agannis

1953 Why didn't we keep Doug Atkins instead of trading him for a bag of beans

1954 RAymond Berry HOF over Jon Bauer

1955 Rosey Grier over Kurt Burris

1956  Forrest Gregg or Sam Huff over Preston Carpenter

1957....We took Jim Brown.....so shut the fuck up

1958 Jerry Kramer over Jim Shofner

1959  Why didn't we keep Dick LeBeau instead of trading him.

I could do this for the 60/70s/80s/90s/00s/10s.....and on and on and on.

@mark-o said:

Barkley had a nice solid rookie season.  As asked in another thread, when was the last time a running back carried a team to a championship without a great QB? 

Giants are on the up and up...won 2 more games than last year, still drafting top 10 ?

@poeticg said:

I was wishing for the same outcome back in april last year. Barkley is as much a beast as I thought he would be. He's a playmaker and with Baker he could have put up 3k. 

It makes me angry because he's become so good that the Giants wont even give him up on Madden for the #1 overall pick plus Myles Garrett plus Nick Chubb... 

How is that you what if clowns can't realize that if you take Barkley at #1 there is no guarantee that Mayfield is still sitting there at 4.   Patriots and Jets reportedly both wanted him.  Who's to say the Giants don't take him with Barkley off the board?  

Once again...slower for some of you to understand...   Mayfield+Ward+Chubb is better than Barkley+whothehellknowswho'sgoingtobethereat4.   Chubb had a great rookie season and that came in really only playing in 11 or games.  

Barkley had a nice solid rookie season.  As asked in another thread, when was the last time a running back carried a team to a championship without a great QB? 

@unsympathetic said:

Pats wanted to trade up for Mayfield

Jets wanted Mayfield

Ghoolie lied! I'm shocked.

Interesting, did the pats org ackn this?

@clevfan4life said:

Really? I did not know that, wgere'd u read that?

Pats wanted to trade up for Mayfield

Jets wanted Mayfield

Ghoolie lied! I'm shocked.