@medicineman said:

Every team has had at least one. One team had five LAST YEAR (and it wasn't the Browns). I have that on first hand authority.

@sisky-fringo said:

just stating there's truly no way to tell exactly when the stuff got in. maybe it wasn't on the brand-new-right-out-of-the-package-instruments until it touched his skin. who cleaned the area, and how well? is it possible there's an mrsa strain that is resistant to what they used to clean the area? it could go a million ways. just too many places for contamination is all i was suggesting. besides the fact i have little faith in things i don't specifically do myself or see firsthand. call it a survivalist curse. shit happens, every day.

The stuff they clean it off with will kill it. No question.

@earl34 said:

i've been on the receiving end under the knife a few times, does that count?

just stating there's truly no way to tell exactly when the stuff got in. maybe it wasn't on the brand-new-right-out-of-the-package-instruments until it touched his skin. who cleaned the area, and how well? is it possible there's an mrsa strain that is resistant to what they used to clean the area? it could go a million ways. just too many places for contamination is all i was suggesting. besides the fact i have little faith in things i don't specifically do myself or see firsthand. call it a survivalist curse. shit happens, every day.

@d-bone said:

Speak for yourself.

@sez.ej said:

I would take Joe on my team any day! He is one of the classiest guys to ever play in the NFL. The Staff infection problem has been covered up by many sports organizations pro and ammiture over the past 5 years.

@beefjerky said:

they really need to get some new medical staff, this is ridiculous.

You guys are missing the point. It is nearly impossible to effectively eradicate MRSA from a facility. Every single NFL team has MRSA in its facility. It's not simply a "medical staff" issue or an organization issue....it's an "everybody" issue. Every single person has to be on board. It's not enough to bring in a HAZMAT team and nuke the place. It's still there.

He signed an informed consent that said he understood the risk of the procedure (which includes infection). It's going to be very hard for him to prove negligence.

they really need to get some new medical staff, this is ridiculous.

@earl34 said:

Watch out for that new guy Costanza! He pees in the shower. I know it's true, I saw it on TV. Sorry!

My cousin works for the public schools and during wrestling season is supposed to spray the mats with a bleach solution after nightly practices as per school policy. Problem is the school only has 2 full time custodians/ janitors one during the day and one at night. They have to clean the weight room, wrestling mats, cafeteria, classrooms, restrooms, halls, ect. With only 2 guys cleaning an entire school and things like the cafeteria and restroom needing to be cleaned spotless every day there are things that get neglected, like sweeping the halls gets rotated with the weight room and wrestling room. Sure, it could be done if they would hire a 3rd guy but it would cost MONEY for the schools to pay 40k a year for a 3rd custodian but it's not in the budget because they pay 4 principals 400k a year at that school and had to save money so teachers and custodians got axed instead of administration.

The people at the top are never going to cut one of their own jobs when they can fire 10 guys below them and lay the extra work elsewhere, which is the root of the problem.

Same thing happens with one of my cousins that work at a nursing home, they're understaffed so the people at the top make more money and the employees there are overworked with more than what they can handle. Things slide because of it.

It's common in every field.

Where I worked as tech support we had 1 janitor for 3 shifts cleaning 3 floors for 24/7 facility operation.

Everyone KNOWS companies short change everything, and if Joe can show cleaning at the facilities were not done regarding minimal requirements he's going to win.

Funny thing is, with ALL of the money invested in these athletes, you would THINK that those facilities would be spic and span twice a day to protect their investments.

@sisky-fringo said:

So what you're mplying here is that the Cleveland Clinic, a leading medical center, doesn't know how to sterilize surgical instruments? If that's your premise, then I'm sorry and with all due respect, you've never been in an OR.

Doesn't sound like he is compensating for his career being over.

@vegasdogg said:

Sure, why not.

@daddybull1 said:

I would hope that it would not be a ballboy, but instead be a healthcare professional who is well versed in Standard Precautions.

'Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said:

Also, equipment or items in the patient environment likely to have been contaminated with infectious body fluids must be handled in a manner to prevent transmission of infectious agents ... properly clean and disinfect or sterilize reusable equipment before use on another patient ...

The weight room isn't "a patient environment" but the commonality of outbreaks makes me think that it should be treated as one. Regardless, the facts are not clear to us. We don't know how nor where the Staph infection was acquired.

-Al

mz. said:

Don't you want to know ALL the facts first?

mz. said:

this is derived from a Mary Kay article, right? without speaking to Joe personally we have no idea of his intentions or motivations as far as i'm concerned.

i've been sued before, twice in fact--it happens. sometimes the defendent is simply just a part of the process. doesn't mean the plaintiff is out for blood either. life isn't black and white enough to allow for knee-jerk reactions to have validity most of the time.

@sisky-fringo said:

*bites tongue*

@sisky-fringo said:

i was referring to his validation from me as a fan for pursuing whatever he wants to pursue. joe jurevicius has cred on my street.

That's fine and all, but we're talking about a lawsuit here, not street cred. You can be a fan of his and still disagree with what he's doing.

@daddybull1 said:

if they don't, maybe Joe's the type of guy who wants there to be one in there from now on...and in that vein it may not be all about $$. pretty broad brush you're painting Joe with, he does bleed brown and orange after all.

mz. said:

Joe's lawyer: "Your honor, Joe was fearless going over the middle and never shied away from making the tough catch. He was a great teammate, so he must be in the right when sues the bejeezus out of everyone even tangentially associated with his knee injury and subsequent staph infections."

that's not the logic mz the pussy and you're funnier when you're not reaching to insult me.

i was referring to his validation from me as a fan for pursuing whatever he wants to pursue. joe jurevicius has cred on my street.

for a bunch of guys on the outside looking in we sure have strong opinions about what really went down inside Berea facilities.

On a side note, I think his absence last year was one of the biggest reasons we underperformed as a team last year.... We had no one to fill his position at the level he performed....

BTW, who says we don't have a ball boy working the weight room to clean the equipment... The team has a huge investment in these players and usually go above and beyond to protect that investment...

I had surgery at the Clinic last June and got a staph that put me down for over 7 months with an additional 4 surgeries and I wasn't anywhere near the Browns facility.... I wonder who I should sue----I wanna' feed my family also.... (Anyone know a good attorney lol)...

peace

T.Dawg