@7moses7 said:

You are an idiot!!!!  Real men don’t kick, punch, push or in any way abuse women . If that’s your opinion to kick the girl harder then you must be a real puss bag and not much of a man 

Nothing this guy says  should be taken seriously he’s just saying stupid shit for the purpose of just saying stupid shit

Justin_Gilbert2019 said:

Kareem got screwed. It is his fault because the crap with Zeeky Elliot happened right before and Ray rice. So if you watch the video kareem in my opinion should kicked the girl harder but regardless his fault just bad penalty he had to serve. 

You are an idiot!!!!  Real men don’t kick, punch, push or in any way abuse women . If that’s your opinion to kick the girl harder then you must be a real puss bag and not much of a man 

Justin_Gilbert2019 said:

Kareem got screwed. It is his fault because the crap with Zeeky Elliot happened right before and Ray rice. So if you watch the video kareem in my opinion should kicked the girl harder but regardless his fault just bad penalty he had to serve. 

Apparently you have been kicked in the head a few times 

Justin_Gilbert2019 said:

Kareem got screwed. It is his fault because the crap with Zeeky Elliot happened right before and Ray rice. So if you watch the video kareem in my opinion should kicked the girl harder but regardless his fault just bad penalty he had to serve. 

Classy. 

@nero said:

4 years? Myles and Baker say hi.

Bakers is 3 year out. Overall I am saying I believe the guys in charge no how to handle the cap better than we do. They have a plan.

@clevfan4life said:

I feel bad for Duke tbh.

Me, too, but only from the standpoint that he endured the bad times only to be sent packing with good times on the horizon.

@dutch-oven said:

It's a "moo point'. 

It's a cow's opinion. 

Same "cow" Devin Nunes is suing?

@jcam222 said:

I think when the smoke clears you will find our cap is fine over the next 4 years. Several contracts are being reworked. I’d expect when they do a new deal for OBJ much is converted to signing bonus. They seem to have this under control. 

4 years? Myles and Baker say hi.

@hoorta said:

Trading for Ramsey- there goes the Cap. KA-BLAM. You do a deal like that only if that's your Super Bowl contending roster for the foreseeable future. 

EDIT: Cross referencing from the TJ Lang thread, sorry, we can't afford a $12 million dollar CB. The Cap is pretty much already shot with Vernon and OBJ.  

I think when the smoke clears you will find our cap is fine over the next 4 years. Several contracts are being reworked. I’d expect when they do a new deal for OBJ much is converted to signing bonus. They seem to have this under control. 

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

️️Those who want Duke gone aren’t accounting for the benefits of having more than 2 talented and capable RBs

I’d be fine with keeping him for sure. That said if they feel moving him will help other areas of weakness he could be expendable. 

Will we re-sign Duke? no. Should we trade him? Also, no.

The question isn't "Do we have too much" -- but rather "What value would we get in return" .. and remember, Duke IS the late-round pick [3] who was a hit.  Nobody would give even a 3 for Duke right now.. and he's achieved what you'd expect from a 2.

I don't understand the thought process of this thread.. If Duke plays well at the 20+ play role for 8 games you say "Great! That's why you're here, we expected you to play well!" and keep signing the checks while asking him to play 5-15 plays in games 9-17 unless someone gets injured. 

Yes, 17 games.

@clevfan4life said:

Would seem to me that after 8 games chubb and Duke might very well have a good rotational rhythm going. Would u fuck with that after 8 gsmes?

Straight answer, because he is a far greater talent. Chubb and Hunt are close to an unrivaled tandem. This coming from a guy who loves Duke. 

He's a team player, a vet, everyone loves him and he was the only consistent playmaker we had during our worst years... But it is a business and we can't hold so many good running backs in the same room. 

I wish him the best.

@hoorta said:

Trading for Ramsey- there goes the Cap. KA-BLAM. You do a deal like that only if that's your Super Bowl contending roster for the foreseeable future.  

We might be there h? back to back..Yeah, I got caught thinking we still had 50.1M left from a Daryl Ruiter tweet..either OBJ or last few moves were not calculated..Looking ahead our draft cost as is may cost 5.2M..2020 FA-Schobert,Hunt,Randall,Tretter to name a few..a few more in 2021-Vernon,(Garrett/Njoku=5th yr. option on both?),Smith,Mitchell,Ogun.. Nice problem to have aye..Colts/Texans, the 2 afc wildcard teams now lead in cap space..it's a funny game 

@gumby73 said:

I read here that Jags might be a option^^

Let's go crazy, lets get nutz..I get that Jalen Ramsey is a boisterous personality prick.but he's got football talent.. Reading more into Jags info, they want to pay Jalen his 5th year option, But after playing next season..Ramsey may sit, cause he thinks his worth is more now than his rookie deal..Reading into Pitts./KC/Oak fan boards, most are reading it will take a 1st & 3rd rounder..How bout next years 1st & Duke & maybe a later pick? I feel Ramsey is about to stab the Jags in the back by waiting past this draft to no show at camp..Coughlin's never late.. but he maybe late on this one..I like Duke... but Ward & Ramsey could make that pass rather quickly..(ever had that moment, where you don't really want to hit send? 10 mins.later ?)

Trading for Ramsey- there goes the Cap. KA-BLAM. You do a deal like that only if that's your Super Bowl contending roster for the foreseeable future. 

EDIT: Cross referencing from the TJ Lang thread, sorry, we can't afford a $12 million dollar CB. The Cap is pretty much already shot with Vernon and OBJ.  

@clevfan4life said:

Would seem to me that after 8 games chubb and Duke might very well have a good rotational rhythm going. Would u fuck with that after 8 gsmes?

He was signed for a reason.   And the reason is that he was available and is a very good RB (possibly better than Chubb).

@texasag1969 said:

Potential trading spots for Johnson below:

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2019/03/16/duke-johnson-cleveland-browns-trade-rumors/

I read here that Jags might be a option^^

@hoorta said:

If we can get a third round pick for Duke, I'm warming to the idea. Assuming no injuries- Once Hunt sees the field, Duke won't. It's that simple. 

Let's go crazy, lets get nutz..I get that Jalen Ramsey is a boisterous personality prick.but he's got football talent.. Reading more into Jags info, they want to pay Jalen his 5th year option, But after playing next season..Ramsey may sit, cause he thinks his worth is more now than his rookie deal..Reading into Pitts./KC/Oak fan boards, most are reading it will take a 1st & 3rd rounder..How bout next years 1st & Duke & maybe a later pick? I feel Ramsey is about to stab the Jags in the back by waiting past this draft to no show at camp..Coughlin's never late.. but he maybe late on this one..I like Duke... but Ward & Ramsey could make that pass rather quickly..(ever had that moment, where you don't really want to hit send? 10 mins.later ?)

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

Smh. Yea let’s just throw away Duke in the Garbage once we have 2 RBs in front of him on the depth chart.

I wrote “this year” for a reason..

If we can get a third round pick for Duke, I'm warming to the idea. Assuming no injuries- Once Hunt sees the field, Duke won't. It's that simple. 

@clevfan4life said:

But apparently this is a moot point, it's reported Duke is being shopped. 

It's a "moo point'. 

It's a cow's opinion. 

@texasag1969 said:

Only until Hunt comes back maybe. Have you watched how Hunt was used? He's just as good a receiver out of the backfield as Duke.

Smh. Yea let’s just throw away Duke in the Garbage once we have 2 RBs in front of him on the depth chart.

I wrote “this year” for a reason..