@hoorta said:

Just one comment here Tour- it has to tear Justin Layne up that he was drafted by the Steelers, he grew up in Cleveland and is a huge Browns fan. Wanted the Browns to draft him.    

If Greedy Williams had been picked I think the Browns would have.

The Browns took Layne out for dinner TWO days before the draft. 

@tour2ma said:

I'll try, but since it was the reason we did not have a 1st-round pick, it kinda has to be factored in...

If I go pick by and see if there was a player taken between our picks that I'd rather have:

• 2.14 - Greedy - couple Safeties jump out at me... Adderly at 2.28 and Thornhill at 2.31... I'd lean Thornhill.
• 3.17 - Stone - Justin Layne (CB) at 3.20 and Hjalte Froholdt (OT.og) 4.16 jump out... I like the inside/outside depth the latter adds
• 4.17 - Redwine - Isaiah Johnson (CB) at 4.27 is the clear choice here.
• 5.17 - Mack Wilson - I don't see a better value at this pick.
• 5.32 - Selbert - Sutton Smith (OLB - NIU) at 6.02 intrigues me.
• 6.17 - Forbes - meh.... this late it's harder to get picky, but both Buggs(DT) at 6.20 and maybe Gilbert (OLB) would get consideration.
• 7.07 - Lewis - great area for CBs... I might look at a DT or two here... Broughton at 7.28 is one.

Just one comment here Tour- it has to tear Justin Layne up that he was drafted by the Steelers, he grew up in Cleveland and is a huge Browns fan. Wanted the Browns to draft him.    

@lbc-mike said:

B-

Do not included the obj factor.

I'll try, but since it was the reason we did not have a 1st-round pick, it kinda has to be factored in...

If I go pick by and see if there was a player taken between our picks that I'd rather have:

• 2.14 - Greedy - couple Safeties jump out at me... Adderly at 2.28 and Thornhill at 2.31... I'd lean Thornhill.
• 3.17 - Stone - Justin Layne (CB) at 3.20 and Hjalte Froholdt (OT.og) 4.16 jump out... I like the inside/outside depth the latter adds
• 4.17 - Redwine - Isaiah Johnson (CB) at 4.27 is the clear choice here.
• 5.17 - Mack Wilson - I don't see a better value at this pick.
• 5.32 - Selbert - Sutton Smith (OLB - NIU) at 6.02 intrigues me.
• 6.17 - Forbes - meh.... this late it's harder to get picky, but both Buggs(DT) at 6.20 and maybe Gilbert (OLB) would get consideration.
• 7.07 - Lewis - great area for CBs... I might look at a DT or two here... Broughton at 7.28 is one.

@texasag1969 said:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001028874/article/2019-nfl-draft-final-quicksnap-grades-for-all-32-teams

My opinion  on that article? "Thank you for  participating  in the 2019 NFL  Draft". No grade lower than a  C. Even though Giants fans are ready to run Gettelman out of  town for drafting  Daniel  Jones.

Zombo said:

OK, I am cutting DT Brian Price.

Zombo

No, not him! Why??? 

Such a cruel world.

@nero said:

If I counted them correctly, you have 54 in bold, instead of 53.

OK, I am cutting DT Brian Price.

Zombo

@nero said:

I counted twice.

Well, the guys likely to be in trouble for that final cut could be Ratley, Willies,  B. Price or T. Thomas.

@the-gipper said:

You many have counted the PR and KR ...but they have other positions.

But upon further review...no, it does seem to be 54.

I counted twice.

@nero said:

If I counted them correctly, you have 54 in bold, instead of 53.

You many have counted the PR and KR ...but they have other positions.

But upon further review...no, it does seem to be 54.

@nero said:

If I counted them correctly, you have 54 in bold, instead of 53.

He has Taki twice

Zombo said:

I'm going to give them an A. They hit every need. Since the start of free agency we have done an awesome job of filling in the roster.

Here was the roster I posted on March 11th:

QB Mayfield, Stanton

FB

RB Chubb, Johnson, Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)

WR1 Calloway, Willies, Strong, Ratley

WR2 Landry, Higgins, Louis, Jackson

TE Njoku, Devalve, Brown

LT Robinson, Harrison

LG Bitonio

C Tretter

RG  Corbett

RT Hubbard

DE Garrett, Smith

DT  Ogunjobi, Lawrence

DT Coley, Price

DE Ogbah, Zettle, Thomas

MLB Schoebert, 

OLB Vernon, Hines

OLB Kirksey, Avery

CB Ward , Thomas, Wilson

CB  Mitchell, Carrie, Burris

S Randall. Whitehead

S Peppers, Kindred

K Joseph

P Colquitt

LS Hughlett

KR Hilliard, Peppers

PR Calloway, Peppers

Here is the roster today, new guys in green:

QB B.Mayfield, D.Stanton, G. Gilbert

FB/H-B O. Charles

RB  N. Chubb, D. Johnson,  D.Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)

WR1  O. Beckham, A. Callaway, D. Willies,  B. Jackson

WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D .Ratley, J.Strong

TE D. Njoku, D. Harris, S. Devalve, P. Brown

LT G. Robinson, D. Harrison

LG J. Bitonio D. Forbes

C J.Tretter K. Kalis

RG  A.Corbett, E. Kush B. Witzmann

RT C. Hubbard, K. Lamm B. Seaton

DE M. Garrett, C. Smith, C. Thomas

DT  Ogunjobi, C. Davis, D. Lawrence

DT  S. Richardson,T Coley, B. Price

DE O. Vernon, Zettle,

MLB Schoebert, M. Wilson R. Armstrong

OLB G. Avery, A. Taylor, Hines

OLB C. Kirksey, S. Takitaki

CB D. Ward , T. Carrie, T. Thomas, J.Burris

CB  T. Mitchell, G. Williams, D. Lewis,  P. Gaines

FS D. Randall, S. Redwine, J Whitehead

SS  M. Burnett, E. Murray 

K A. Seibert, G. Joseph

P Colquitt

LS Hughlett

KR (Hilliard)

PR (Callaway)

New starters at WR1, DE, DT and S ... three of them Pro Bowlers.

Depth added at QB, RB, WR, TE, all across OL, All across LB, All across secondary, and Kicker adressed.

Zombo

If I counted them correctly, you have 54 in bold, instead of 53.

Here was the roster I posted on March 11th:

QB Mayfield, Stanton

FB

RB Chubb, Johnson, Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)

WR1 Calloway, Willies, Strong, Ratley

WR2 Landry, Higgins, Louis, Jackson

TE Njoku, Devalve, Brown

LT Robinson, Harrison

LG Bitonio

C Tretter

RG  Corbett

RT Hubbard

DE Garrett, Smith

DT  Ogunjobi, Lawrence

DT Coley, Price

DE Ogbah, Zettle, Thomas

MLB Schoebert, 

OLB Vernon, Hines

OLB Kirksey, Avery

CB Ward , Thomas, Wilson

CB  Mitchell, Carrie, Burris

S Randall. Whitehead

S Peppers, Kindred

K Joseph

P Colquitt

LS Hughlett

KR Hilliard, Peppers

PR Calloway, Peppers

Here is the roster today, new guys in green:

QB B.Mayfield, D.Stanton, G. Gilbert

FB/H-B O. Charles

RB  N. Chubb, D. Johnson,  D.Hilliard (Hunt Susp.)

WR1  O. Beckham, A. Callaway, D. Willies,  B. Jackson

WR2 J. Landry, R. Higgins, D .Ratley, J.Strong

TE D. Njoku, D. Harris, S. Devalve, P. Brown

LT G. Robinson, D. Harrison

LG J. Bitonio D. Forbes

C J.Tretter K. Kalis

RG  A.Corbett, E. Kush B. Witzmann

RT C. Hubbard, K. Lamm B. Seaton

DE M. Garrett, C. Smith, C. Thomas

DT  Ogunjobi, C. Davis, D. Lawrence

DT  S. Richardson,T Coley, B. Price

DE O. Vernon, Zettle,

MLB Schoebert, M. Wilson R. Armstrong

OLB G. Avery, A. Taylor, Hines

OLB C. Kirksey, S. Takitaki

CB D. Ward , T. Carrie, T. Thomas, J.Burris

CB  T. Mitchell, G. Williams, D. Lewis,  P. Gaines

FS D. Randall, S. Redwine, J Whitehead

SS  M. Burnett, E. Murray 

K A. Seibert, G. Joseph

P Colquitt

LS Hughlett

KR (Hilliard)

PR (Callaway)

New starters at WR1, DE, DT and S ... three of them Pro Bowlers.

Depth added at QB, RB, WR, TE, all across OL, All across LB, All across secondary, and Kicker adressed.

Zombo

@louisville-slugger said:

Williams- A - I dont like alot of his game but he is really good at turning and running with WRs. It's really good value in the mid 2nd.

Takitaki- F- looks like a decent special teamer but there was too much talent on the board to not hate this pick.

Redwine- C- the value is better than Takitaki but there was better options. Looks like a good special teamer that could get a few snaps on defense.

Wilson- A- coverage LBer that can rotate in on passing downs. Good value this late but was overrated by most. 

Seibert- A- we need a kicker and he is promising. 

Forbes- C- I dont know anything about him but this late you cant expect much. We missed on OT early so might as well roll the dice.

Lewis Jr.- C- last pick of the why not

Overall- B

My grade of your grades: X

Takitaki- F- looks like a decent special teamer but there was too much talent on the board to not hate this pick.

Redwine- C- the value is better than Takitaki but there was better options. Looks like a good special teamer that could get a few snaps on defense.

Wilson- A- coverage LBer that can rotate in on passing downs. Good value this late but was overrated by most. 

Seibert- A- we need a kicker and he is promising. 

Forbes- C- I dont know anything about him but this late you cant expect much. We missed on OT early so might as well roll the dice.

Lewis Jr.- C- last pick of the why not

Overall- B