@clevfan4life said:

tiamats thread suggested chad thomas was seeing alot of reps against the main OL....zettel huh? that dude did not imoress me last year in the slightest. 

Uhh, no.    

Chad was getting reps in 1 on 1's vs the 1st team tackles, like I said he did vs Hubbard on a couple wins.   I don't recall seeing him get a single first team snap in 11's though.  

@gumby73 said:

the guess works been done. Anybody on this list raise your eyebrows? https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2019/7/27/20730769/possible-tc-cuts-at-dt-that-could-be-of-interest   

hell yes to bringing meder back...thats a solid heavy lifter that could come in against the run. Aytaba rubin huh? god damn i had no idea he was still around. Article suggests he was producing as a backup in seattle which has no bums in that d line room. I could be persuaded by a strong showing in camp....do it

@ibleedbrown said:

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2019/7/26/8932201/cleveland-browns-training-camp-recap-day-2-greedy-for-picks

Found the mention about Chris Smith in that article. Apparently Avery and Zettel have been the number 2 team as of this writing. 

I dunno. Every year it seems some guys come outta nowhere and increase their level of play. Some guys regress too, but it seems there are enough of these bottom of the roster guys who have been with the club since last year and see the chance to be a part of something great, so l’m hopeful a few step up and pan out.  

tiamats thread suggested chad thomas was seeing alot of reps against the main OL....zettel huh? that dude did not imoress me last year in the slightest. 

@clevfan4life said:

1) Thats interesting about Smith...who's taking 2nd team reps from him? Thomas? 

2) As far as i can tell all those pickups we got from letting meder and nassib go....didnt work out. When jobi was injured they kept him in there pkaying at prob 80%. That speaks volumes about that rotation. And why Sheldon was such a key signing. The fact we were still persuing DT's lije mccoy and daniels means Berea is worried what hsppens if sheldon or jobi get hurt

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2019/7/26/8932201/cleveland-browns-training-camp-recap-day-2-greedy-for-picks

Found the mention about Chris Smith in that article. Apparently Avery and Zettel have been the number 2 team as of this writing. 

I dunno. Every year it seems some guys come outta nowhere and increase their level of play. Some guys regress too, but it seems there are enough of these bottom of the roster guys who have been with the club since last year and see the chance to be a part of something great, so l’m hopeful a few step up and pan out.  

@nickers said:

He got on board with the Kitty Kats.. Fuck'um!

Yep!

To quote Freddie, "If you're not wearing orange & brown, you don't matter!"

Mike

@clevfan4life said:

2) As far as i can tell all those pickups we got from letting meder and nassib go....didnt work out. When jobi was injured they kept him in there pkaying at prob 80%. That speaks volumes about that rotation. And why Sheldon was such a key signing. The fact we were still persuing DT's lije mccoy and daniels means Berea is worried what hsppens if sheldon or jobi get hurt

the guess works been done. Anybody on this list raise your eyebrows? https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2019/7/27/20730769/possible-tc-cuts-at-dt-that-could-be-of-interest   

@ibleedbrown said:

A good number of those backup guys have been with the team about a year now, and were Dorsey pick ups. We traded a 7th for Devaroe Lawrence. We axed Austin Reiter and Carl Nassib to make room for a couple of them, both guys who found some success elsewhere. Presumably Dorsey saw something in these guys so he went out of his way to gets them. Let’s see what they can do.

Also, read today that Smith is practicing with the 3rd team DL most recently. He’s a guy l think we both liked last year, but getting a subtle message to not rest on his laurels. We got good pace setters for competition and betterment as a whole is bound to happen.

1) Thats interesting about Smith...who's taking 2nd team reps from him? Thomas? 

2) As far as i can tell all those pickups we got from letting meder and nassib go....didnt work out. When jobi was injured they kept him in there pkaying at prob 80%. That speaks volumes about that rotation. And why Sheldon was such a key signing. The fact we were still persuing DT's lije mccoy and daniels means Berea is worried what hsppens if sheldon or jobi get hurt

@hoorta said:

The tide has turned- and we don't need to overpay to get talent here anymore.

The 30 yr old would've been a nice addition...but for the right price.  (unless you're desperate, which we're not at that position)

@clevfan4life said:

well zettel is a DE so unless he put on some considerable mass in the offseason he's not gonna be DT material. We're "set" st DE with Smith and Avery as rotation depth. There might be a spot for Zettel there as garbage time rotation. But DT depth still concerns me. We play Blt twice and thats the best interior OL in football....thsts a heavy lifting game. I dont want sheldon and jobi accumulating too much dmg in that game. Hopefully baker and thst offense can put so much pts on the board esrly that blt has to start passing sooner. 

A good number of those backup guys have been with the team about a year now, and were Dorsey pick ups. We traded a 7th for Devaroe Lawrence. We axed Austin Reiter and Carl Nassib to make room for a couple of them, both guys who found some success elsewhere. Presumably Dorsey saw something in these guys so he went out of his way to gets them. Let’s see what they can do.

Also, read today that Smith is practicing with the 3rd team DL most recently. He’s a guy l think we both liked last year, but getting a subtle message to not rest on his laurels. We got good pace setters for competition and betterment as a whole is bound to happen.

@ibleedbrown said:

As odd as it sounds l’m ok with not getting a guy like Daniels. The table is set for some fierce competition amongst the DL, and l kind of look forward to seeing who among the Zettels and Ekaules step up their game and push for playing time. 

well zettel is a DE so unless he put on some considerable mass in the offseason he's not gonna be DT material. We're "set" st DE with Smith and Avery as rotation depth. There might be a spot for Zettel there as garbage time rotation. But DT depth still concerns me. We play Blt twice and thats the best interior OL in football....thsts a heavy lifting game. I dont want sheldon and jobi accumulating too much dmg in that game. Hopefully baker and thst offense can put so much pts on the board esrly that blt has to start passing sooner. 

@the-gipper said:

Is it?  Do we know if the Browns even made an offer?  And if so, was it all that deficient in comparison?

No we don't- and we weren't going to offer him a $9 million one year contract either. He apparently wanted to start, instead of being a rotational player, and the contract the Lions gave him isn't rotational money.  

The tide has turned- and we don't need to overpay to get talent here anymore. 

@the-gipper said:

Do we know if the Browns even made an offer?  

No.  Not yet anyway.

@orion said:

But to do that you have to live in Detroit?  Nah,  it's the millions.  

Is it?  Do we know if the Browns even made an offer?  And if so, was it all that deficient in comparison?

@the-gipper said:

He may have also wanted to do what McCoy did:   join a foe in the same division as the team that released him in order to get payback. 

But to do that you have to live in Detroit?  Nah,  it's the millions.  

@unsympathetic said:

You'd have to become a Lions fan to support Mike Daniels' team this season.

That’s a lotta money for a rotational DT. 7.8 mil guaranteed. Makes sense he chased the money and makes sense we weren’t the ones to pay it.

That Lions DL looks pretty solid now -- Trey Flowers, Damon Harrison, Da'Shawn Hand [87.4] and A'Shawn Robinson [89.8] before adding Daniels.

@hoorta said:

Sheep milk = Roquefort cheese. Yum.  As to vegans, to each their own. 

PS Feta cheese (usually made from goat milk) is one of the few I don't like at all.  

I LOVE a good Greek salad with Kalamata olives & feta cheese, although too much feta CAN overpower an otherwise great salad. John's Bar on Cleveland Ave NW in Canton has a great Greek salad. My standard order there is an order of smelt/cocktail sauce, a Greek salad & a beer or two. Gourmets may thumb their noses at that combo, but I love it!

Mike

Mike