@gumby73 said:

Take my liquor ? Take my wife ? but what would football junkies do with no Thursday Night football Lights? ?️  

That sounds like a hike - uu.?

@jppt1974 said:

 And if they would just get rid of the Thursday night games. Then it could help the players rest a bit. 

Take my liquor ? Take my wife ? but what would football junkies do with no Thursday Night football Lights? ?️  

@bob806 said:

Well, it's not entirely scientific, but 62% of fans who responded think the schedule should be left alone....

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/15/the-fans-seem-to-want-to-stick-with-16-games/

But 100% of the fans opinions do not matter.  Only the opinions of 31 people....plus player association reps matter.

Nevertheless, I basically agree with those opinions (and find that 62% seems low).

I mean, I don't know what the obsession seems to be with "growing the game" in foreign markets.  They make like 9 billion dollars a year....how much more do they need?  Is  it just basketball or soccer envy which games are played worldwide?  Who cares about that?   (Well...apparently NFL owners do)

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/15/the-fans-seem-to-want-to-stick-with-16-games/

Preseason game 2- Starters play 1/2 game...

Preseason game 3- Starters play 3 quarters...

Preseason game 4- Starters sit...

That's one and a half games they are already playing that Do NOT count for anything. Make it 2 games that count and have only 2 preseason games. Quit crying and complaining, players are gonna play. If they don't want to play, get a real job.

@gumby73 said:

coaches common rule of thumb is..the dress rehearsal, is pre-season game 3,till halftime..I've seen some pissed off coaches, give some starters 1 drive to start 3rd quarter..the 4th pre-season games? ..Owners should pay us to watch.. https://www.nfl.com/scores/2018/PRE4  (click stats to see who's playing them)     

Well....that is the "common rule of thumb"  when the NFL teams have 4 preseason games that they have to deal with.  If they only had  2-3, they would adjust and they would make that "dress rehearsal" one of the other games, 2d or 3rd.

@orion said:

...but perhaps coaches ARE opposed.  They may WANT their starters to get at least a half of football playing together before the first game.   So, preseason game 3 becomes the dress rehearsal.  (just sayin')  

coaches common rule of thumb is..the dress rehearsal, is pre-season game 3,till halftime..I've seen some pissed off coaches, give some starters 1 drive to start 3rd quarter..the 4th pre-season games? ..Owners should pay us to watch.. https://www.nfl.com/scores/2018/PRE4  (click stats to see who's playing them)     

@bob806 said:

Hmmm....well, yeah both sides want something. The owners pretty much have it all as it is. The players, especially the stars, have it great as well. 

My point is tinkering with the most successful league in the USA might not be a good idea. Goodell is a puppet for the Jerry Jones/greed monger owner types. Don't fix what's not broken.

Again, going to my go to guy.   But yes, teh greed monger JJ types do control things:

@the-gipper said:

Wait, don't all men/women have 2 buttocks?  

I said 2 didn't I...

https://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x2y1sb0

@dutch-oven said:

I'd be fine if ALL the leagues shortened their seasons, to be honest.

14 games for the NFL, 140-148 games for MLB, 60ish games for NBA and NHL. 

For the love of dog, shorten the NBA and NHL playoff season. I swear it feels longer than the regular season sometimes. 

You want things shortened?   Then cut off your dick!

At least, that is how these league would feel that you are asking them if you ask to shorten the seasons...and reduce revenues.

Ve Vant the money Lebowski!

@the-gipper said:

Hello, McFly...is anybody home?  Of course the owners want something.   

Hmmm....well, yeah both sides want something. The owners pretty much have it all as it is. The players, especially the stars, have it great as well. 

My point is tinkering with the most successful league in the USA might not be a good idea. Goodell is a puppet for the Jerry Jones/greed monger owner types. Don't fix what's not broken.

They had that, NFL Europe.  It lost money for them which is why they dumped it. The intent here is to make money.

@orion said:

I hear ya (again).

I don't even know how an idea like having healthy players sit out 2 games even gets to see daylight.  

Can you imagine?  Well, I can't play my Left Tackle for a couple of games...might as well start the backup QB those two weeks.  -  Doesn't all but one or two players play every week?

I know!!!!   For 2 games a year every team will have to play with just special teamers.....

....and now, a man with two buttocks....

Wait, don't all men/women have 2 buttocks?   Is  "Buttocks"   a plural, or a single noun?  Do we not have a "pair" of buttocks?  Should you have said "and now, a man with two pair of buttocks"  meaning that he would actually have  4 butt cheeks? 

Is this getting to sound like a Monty Python bit?   ...and question....do pythons have buttocks?  I don't think so.

This tells us why we have them apparently...but does not answer the original question....is buttocks considered a single entity, or not:

https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/science/humans/article/2016/06/29/ask-evolution-why-we-have-butt-cheeks

@gumby73 said:

after the wife, pimped me out to mow the neighbor's grass  am back.. I was listening to Timmy the 12th caller on a radio show today & I had to agree with him that, TNF needs a additional bye week given by the league, in front of all of them. Each team plays in one. So each team would receive 10 days off before playing TNF & 10 days off after playing TNF..Play them where they like..London & China starts drinking by 7am ? ..Thursday football on my tv by 6-7pm..life is good 

Or...how about having the Thursday night games be the  out of country games and do the byes like you say !!.  Oh...Except that wouldn't work either, because when it is Prime Time Thursday night here...say 8:00 PM, it would be  1:00 in the morning  in England, and like 2 AM in Germany/France.

I do rather like those  9:30 AM  Sunday NFL games that come on.

Though it would probably work well the other way....Japan, China games could be held in the afternoons, and be in Prime time here.

@the-gipper said:

Yea, it is a pile of horseshit to have  players not play in some games that count.  BS.

I hear ya (again).

I don't even know how an idea like having healthy players sit out 2 games even gets to see daylight.  

Can you imagine?  Well, I can't play my Left Tackle for a couple of games...might as well start the backup QB those two weeks.  -  Doesn't all but one or two players play every week?

I know!!!!   For 2 games a year every team will have to play with just special teamers.....

....and now, a man with two buttocks....

@the-gipper said:

Uhm, we now have a 20 ...21 actually  week season...with 4 preseason games, 16 regular season games, plus a bye for each team.  So...unless you are referring to a 19 week regular season, that is not going to happen.   Besides that,  Well, that completely misses the point of what the league WANTS.    They want that  one extra game to be a neutral site, with at least half of those being non US sites so they can market their games to these other nations.    

I don't know the player's associations position on it.....other than that if the league wants more games, they want a lot more money for the players.  It does, after all, always come down to that, fair to say.

after the wife, pimped me out to mow the neighbor's grass  am back.. I was listening to Timmy the 12th caller on a radio show today & I had to agree with him that, TNF needs a additional bye week given by the league, in front of all of them. Each team plays in one. So each team would receive 10 days off before playing TNF & 10 days off after playing TNF..Play them where they like..London & China starts drinking by 7am ? ..Thursday football on my tv by 6-7pm..life is good 

@orion said:

I hear ya.

...but perhaps coaches ARE opposed.  They may WANT their starters to get at least a half of football playing together before the first game.   So, preseason game 3 becomes the dress rehearsal.  (just sayin')  

Well...why can't preseason games 2 and 3 be that.  They DO NOT need 4 for that.  

Another thing that should be done:   eliminate the fucking "game inactive" thing.  Why put a player on the fucking roster if you have to be disallowed from playing 5-6-7 of them.   You pay them to play, not to sit.

And that is another thing the players may want.....expanded rosters.  Instead of doing something absurd like saying "18 games...but players are only allowed to play in 16 of them"     have a 60 man roster.

@bob806 said:

The 16 game schedule, and the rotating schedule system in place now is perfect.

I sense the owners may want something else from the union. They throw this idea out in the open, before CBA negotiations begin, as a tactic. Probably just going fishing...they know the union is against it, but maybe this stupid 18 game idea will be leverage for concessions on something else.

The owners better be careful. I think they've over-saturated the market with these Thursday night games as it is. Just leave the game and schedule alone. 

Hello, McFly...is anybody home?  Of course the owners want something.   They want fucking money.  And the players want money.  They don't give a shit where it comes from, they just want to explore new avenues.  They don't give a shit if they saturate the market.....they figure that if MLB and NBA and NHL can have games every day of the damned week, then so they have Thursday, Sunday, Monday night games.  You don't hear people complaining if the NBA has  games 7 nights a week.

Leverage?  It may be leverage for something else...sure.  It is something the players want.  Players want an end to testing for marijuana...OK...give us more games, more  of the revenue that comes from them. Players want a change to the disciplinary system....OK, give us more games and more of the revenue that comes from them.  The players want more guaranteed contracts.  OK, give us more games....in Germany, China, Australia, Brazil...and maybe more guaranteed contracts can come.  

You may be right...and wrong at the same time....this may be not really be about what the owners want....but what the players want..... and the owners simply  try to come up with something to get back from them in the way of revenues rather than just give the players willy nilly no drug tests and a different discipline system.   And at the same time....really, actually (or at least hopefully) opening up those foreign markets to exploitation for revenues at the same time.

@the-gipper said:

With 17 games, the season would not be extended as surely one of the preseason games would be eliminated.

I hear ya.

@gumby73 said:

Am not opposed, to dropping pre-season game 4. The full dress rehearsal of starters playing,

...but perhaps coaches ARE opposed.  They may WANT their starters to get at least a half of football playing together before the first game.   So, preseason game 3 becomes the dress rehearsal.  (just sayin')  

I sense the owners may want something else from the union. They throw this idea out in the open, before CBA negotiations begin, as a tactic. Probably just going fishing...they know the union is against it, but maybe this stupid 18 game idea will be leverage for concessions on something else.

The owners better be careful. I think they've over-saturated the market with these Thursday night games as it is. Just leave the game and schedule alone. 

14 games for the NFL, 140-148 games for MLB, 60ish games for NBA and NHL. 

For the love of dog, shorten the NBA and NHL playoff season. I swear it feels longer than the regular season sometimes. 

October 6	Chicago BearsN		Oakland RaidersA		London	Tottenham Hotspur Stadium	TBA	TBD
October 13	Carolina PanthersN		Tampa Bay BuccaneersN		TBA	TBD
October 27	Cincinnati BengalsA		Los Angeles RamsN		Wembley Stadium	TBA	TBD
November 3	Houston TexansA		Jacksonville JaguarsA		TBA	TBD
November 18	Kansas City ChiefsA		Los Angeles ChargersA		Mexico City	Estadio Azteca	TBA	TBD

Future markets[edit]

Within the United Kingdom, aside from London, potential candidates for hosting NFL games include Millennium Stadium in Cardiff, Wales;^[53] and Murrayfield in Edinburgh, Scotland.^[54] Other prime locations to get games would be Croke Park in the Republic of Ireland (Ireland has already hosted the NCAA Emerald Isle Classic, a college football game similar to the International Series, and the late Steelers owner Dan Rooney was once an ambassador to the country), Germany (which hosted the majority of teams in NFL Europe throughout its existence as an all-European league and whose national American football team won both the 2010 and 2014 European Championship), China,^[55] Brazil,^[56][55] Australia^[57] and Canada (Canada hosted the Bills Toronto Series from 2008 to 2013 and is set to host a preseason game in Winnipeg in 2019). In 2007, NFL senior Vice President Mark Waller doubted Asia or Australia would be targeted because of travel concerns, but did not dismiss the possibility.^[5] The league had planned to host a game in China in 2018 with the Los Angeles Rams as the home team against the San Francisco 49ers.^[58] The potential game in China was postponed (the third time the league has postponed playing in China, following failed attempts in 2007 and 2009) to being aimed for the 2019 season to coincide with the league's 100th anniversary; that game ultimately was not scheduled for 2019.^[59][60] The league has indicated that a China game is still not certain because of the lack of a fan base in the country (NFL games are played in the middle of the night in China).^[61]

In regard to future games outside London or Mexico, Mark Waller stated in 2017 that the only holdup with games in Germany was what he dubbed "an inventory management thing. How many games do we actually have?"^[61]

So, that "inventory management issue" is why the league wants a 17th,  neutral site game.