@clevfan4life said:

just based on what i saw from game one where he did get some time against the 1's....he' only behind chris smith. Both of them showed me some fluidity and dynamic pass rushing. Him moreso than smith cause smith wasnt in tgere very long...came out with Myles i think, or not much longer afterwsrds. 

Thomas actually showed a reggie white like upfield shed which is my fav pass rushing move. 

The best ability is availability.  Gotta stay healthy to help.

@gumby73 said:

good point..Chad has not practiced since..Putting Chad on some sort of IR may save someone a roster spot..but, We really need to see Chad Thomas play.Chad should be the best depth we have at his position?

just based on what i saw from game one where he did get some time against the 1's....he' only behind chris smith. Both of them showed me some fluidity and dynamic pass rushing. Him moreso than smith cause smith wasnt in tgere very long...came out with Myles i think, or not much longer afterwsrds. 

Thomas actually showed a reggie white like upfield shed which is my fav pass rushing move. 

@texasag1969 said:

I think they should go to 18 games with no preseason games. Be allowed to take 61 players into the season dropping 8 over a 4 game span (2 drops after each game).

I like 18 games, but feel you still need 2 exhibition games.  Not so much for the top vets, but for the bottom vets and rookies.  Those games are important to them.

18 games.    All but 8 teams go on bye week after 6.  The 8 who don't play the 4 national games, 3 on Sunday and 1 on Monday. No Thursday game that week. The teams that play bye  the following week.    The do it again after week 12 and 13.

@clevfan4life said:

 unless thomas's injury isxworse than they think.

good point..Chad has not practiced since..Putting Chad on some sort of IR may save someone a roster spot..but, We really need to see Chad Thomas play.Chad should be the best depth we have at his position?

@dutch-oven said:

I can't stress enough how much I hate the idea of a 18 game regular season.

I don't care if the rosters have a small village per team... I want the best players to have the best chance of being around at the end of the season, and prolonging the regular season won't do it. Quality over quantity. 

And I can't tell you what a waste 4 preseason games are while making the total 20 altogether. Better to have more players to start in an 18 game season rather than risk so many injuries in "fake" games that do nothing for anyone. If you can't figure out who your best players are by watching training camp leading up to the real season, then you don't belong in profession football. Nobody really learns anything in 2nd to 4th stinger games and smart teams keep their best star players that we all want to see off the field for those. Preseason game #3 is the only one worth watching and I get the impression the Browns will not use it as the dress rehearsal that most do.

@gumby73 said:

Go to Colts gameday thread..Look at Chad Kelley video at 2:13 with 4.5 minutes left in game..I'd say Wyatt Ray made up for his dumb mistake

yeah i never heard of him till sat's game, didnt seem too bad but he's likely not making the cut unless thomas's injury isxworse than they think.

@dutch-oven said:

I can't stress enough how much I hate the idea of a 18 game regular season.

I don't care if the rosters have a small village per team... I want the best players to have the best chance of being around at the end of the season, and prolonging the regular season won't do it. Quality over quantity. 

I totally agree, plus fatigue increases risk of injury. Starters would play extensively in 1 or 2 extra regular season games...they play little (if at all) in 1 or 2 exhibition games. There is no comparison.

Mike 

@dutch-oven said:

I can't stress enough how much I hate the idea of a 18 game regular season.

But...do we hate  4 preseason games worse?  On another thread earlier, there was discussion about a 17 game season...and how that could work.  Resucitate that is you will.

I don't care if the rosters have a small village per team... I want the best players to have the best chance of being around at the end of the season, and prolonging the regular season won't do it. No...for sure.....getting rid of the inactives would help imo.

Quality over quantity. 

I don't care if the rosters have a small village per team... I want the best players to have the best chance of being around at the end of the season, and prolonging the regular season won't do it. Quality over quantity. 

@texasag1969 said:

I think they should go to 18 games with no preseason games. Be allowed to take 61 players into the season dropping 8 over a 4 game span (2 drops after each game).

And NO  "inactives".  If they are on the active roster, let them suit up and play.

@ballpeen said:

In my old age i have come to the conclusion that exhibition football doesn't mean shit.

They should do likethey did in  the old days...play these games in different venues....like the Akron Rubber Bowl.  Now put a game at Infocision stadium.

AND/OR...a better idea:  bring back the old double headers.   Remember them?  The Browns would play someone, then 2 other teams would play.

If you don't want to hold that in the Browns stadium....have it at like Ohio Stadium... in Mid August where the Browns play an opponent and then the Bengals play someone.    That would be cool, sort of. 

@clevfan4life said:

 Im just talking about a clean rip around the edge ffs. Avery was just getting pushed way wide, wasnt leaning into his edge rush. 

Go to Colts gameday thread..Look at Chad Kelley video at 2:13 with 4.5 minutes left in game..I'd say Wyatt Ray made up for his dumb mistake

@clevfan4life said:

scheme wise teams arent showing shit, that goes without saying. Ofc wolks isnt showing complex rush and blitz schemes. Im just talking about a clean rip around the edge ffs. Avery was just getting pushed way wide, wasnt leaning into his edge rush. 

Maybe the pass rushers are being vanilla too and not trying to show off their flashy/new moves

regular season opposition. In fact, this is the first exhibition season that I can watch the entire games with a lot of interest, with the depth the Browns now have.

Regular season will get here soon enough.

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

Avery looks much quicker. Shows on the tackle on the screen pass right before half. 

He was pass rushing, diagnosed the screen, and made it outside in time to trip up the receiver. 

he's a ridiculous athlete no question. He just may not work so well in our scheme. 

Avery has zero to do with the lb'ers in wilks scheme...so he has to make the team as a DE. Theres alot of traffic at DE guys. Zettel, who i dont really care for but is gettin lots of reps, love me some big bear he's in, Chad Thomas.....i mean, avery needs to flash next game or ge might be playing alot in game 4 and we know what thst means.

Acery was highly thought of by GW but who knows with wilks. Wilks may not see much need for Avery as he doesnt use as many 3 DL sets as GW did. 

He was pass rushing, diagnosed the screen, and made it outside in time to trip up the receiver. 

Nothing matters more than game 1. Everyone here knows our record of season openers, and we MUST have a victory week 1.

@gumby73 said:

Now is not the time to show much of anything, anyhow..If your after a 2 preseason game worry? #1..this OL can't run block. It's all been on running backs individual vision talent & effort.. #2..We just let 3 QB's at Colts go 30 of 44 with all 3 Qb's combined with a 104.7 QB rating. I was hoping our coverage depth was far better than Saturdays game..#3.Placekicker   

I won't worry about #2 yet unless they play that way with Garrett in the game (and he was not in game 2).