@tour2ma said:

Gunz...

You misspelled "Weak".

I did? I don't see it

You misspelled "Weak".

@tour2ma said:

Freddie better go with the Prima Donna's self-assessment...

I don't feel we "need" OBJ to beat TN... or NYJ Week 2... but we will need him soon and badly if we wanna hang with the Rams Week 3 or  the Ravens Week 4.

I'm blaming Freddie for this loss; team was completely undisciplined and it showed all day, 18 flags. You can't beat a solid team like TN playing like that. 

After the 1st game: we suck, worse than 0-16 team. 1st pick in draft. Kitchens needs to be fired.

In reality: they are 0-1, just like half the league will be after tomorrow night. And the Titans are the team who beat the Patriots by 3 TDs last Week 1, and Patriots won the Super Bowl.

Overreaction BEFORE AND AFTER this game

@icecube said:

I think they are both good. I'm not sure one is better, just different. Henry's size and speed ratio are pretty rare: 250 lb backs aren't supposed to run sub 4.4 forties. If he shakes loose into the secondary, look out. 

Well, Henry proved to be more than dog poop after all. He dropped 159 combined yards and 2 TDs on the Brownies. Ouch. 

@icecube said:

I think for TN to win, they will need some runs by Mariota and a few turnovers...possible, but I feel Browns should be favored (and are).  I'm not crazy that OBJ is mentioning a pre-game excuse (hip) entering the game. He has said he doesn't feel he can "open it up" or his hip will blow up. Freddie said he is fine. We will see. 

OBJ needs a little drama - and there it is.  

Tenn will get their TEs involved - make Kirksey and Avery try to cover them or get them out in space with Lewis.  They will also get it third and manageable and look for Humphrey in the slot against Our rookie.  They are going to attack Greedy in the run and pass they will try to get Henry on the perimeter too and make our coverage oriented secondary tackle for four quarters.

Third and long and their offense is toast.

browns jump on them early it’s over.

Their margin for error is small.

@icecube said:

I'm not crazy that OBJ is mentioning a pre-game excuse (hip) entering the game. He has said he doesn't feel he can "open it up" or his hip will blow up. Freddie said he is fine. We will see. 

Freddie better go with the Prima Donna's self-assessment...

I don't feel we "need" OBJ to beat TN... or NYJ Week 2... but we will need him soon and badly if we wanna hang with the Rams Week 3 or  the Ravens Week 4.

@sdbacker80 said:

I agree with his low scoring assessment of the game.  I think the excuse the crew hasn’t played enough together has just a little merit, but this is largely the same unit (Chubb, Mayfield, Higgins Landry NJoku). Line is still in tact for the most part and we add a major playmaker and at the very least a nice shiny decoy in OBJ.  We are fine.  The Titans have a huge problem trying to block Garrett without their stud tackle  - IMO this biggest issue/problem facing either team this game.

I think for TN to win, they will need some runs by Mariota and a few turnovers...possible, but I feel Browns should be favored (and are).  I'm not crazy that OBJ is mentioning a pre-game excuse (hip) entering the game. He has said he doesn't feel he can "open it up" or his hip will blow up. Freddie said he is fine. We will see. 

@tour2ma said:

Meanwhile back at the thread...

Pluto is scared, too...

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/09/cleveland-browns-the-opening-game-with-tennessee-scares-me-terry-pluto.html

I agree with his low scoring assessment of the game.  I think the excuse the crew hasn’t played enough together has just a little merit, but this is largely the same unit (Chubb, Mayfield, Higgins Landry NJoku). Line is still in tact for the most part and we add a major playmaker and at the very least a nice shiny decoy in OBJ.  We are fine.  The Titans have a huge problem trying to block Garrett without their stud tackle  - IMO this biggest issue/problem facing either team this game.

Pluto is scared, too...

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2019/09/cleveland-browns-the-opening-game-with-tennessee-scares-me-terry-pluto.html

check him out on Twitter  

@flyingfooldoug said:

What about MD Perry?

Michael Dean....not Mad Dog.

I see he writes his wife instead of his mom and lion pelts from Michigan  make nice trophy’s 

@jiggins7919 said:

Ya know, I'm catching myself with that same mentality, too. "We have a new FG kicker and a rookie punter/holder, I'm sure the game will come down to a missed kick!" or "We haven't won an opener in forever, so why would this be different?" 

Win or lose, it won't have anything to do with our history. We're facing a good team, a team with a defense ranked around 6th against the run and 8th against the pass. A team that is healthy and expects to play in January. My biggest comfort is we play in Cleveland, and that energy is going to be INTENSE. 

FWIW-I have Seifert as my kicker in my FFL. I was going to take Baker but someone beat me to him. So I went with the guy who won me money Drew Brees. Also got Phillip Rivers. Nobody took Kareem Hunt, but after week 5 we get to drop and re-pick anyone we want. I'll be trying to get him unless our RBs are playing lights out without him. (hopefully).

@icecube said:

That's the "old Browns," bra. Things can change: The Red Sox and Cubs won championships. 

Ya know, I'm catching myself with that same mentality, too. "We have a new FG kicker and a rookie punter/holder, I'm sure the game will come down to a missed kick!" or "We haven't won an opener in forever, so why would this be different?" 

Win or lose, it won't have anything to do with our history. We're facing a good team, a team with a defense ranked around 6th against the run and 8th against the pass. A team that is healthy and expects to play in January. My biggest comfort is we play in Cleveland, and that energy is going to be INTENSE. 

@comeonman said:

That’s because they don’t. He ran a 4.54 at the combine. Where did you get the 4.3?

Yeah and Garrett ran a 4.64 at the combine at 270 pounds, and that isn't all that significant a difference. 

@icecube said:

I think they are both good. I'm not sure one is better, just different. Henry's size and speed ratio are pretty rare: 250 lb backs aren't supposed to run sub 4.4 forties. If he shakes loose into the secondary, look out. 

That’s because they don’t. He ran a 4.54 at the combine. Where did you get the 4.3?

@icecube said:

Colin repeated his whole  "TN +5.5 is a great bet" talk today. Said he doesn't like OL, especially the OTs. I'm not so sure the TN +5.5 is as much of an iron clad winner as he does. I could see a Browns 7 point win going down. Maybe he will end up having to cover this game in his "What Colin got wrong" segment. 

On a side note, do you think Joy Taylor is hot? 

Of course she is a gorgeous woman. And with the look of her fiance, all of us regular guys would have a chance haha

@gumby73 said:

sounds like she has experienced the mile high club naked at 37,ooo feet..

call me spoiled..I've spent the long weekend on the SC & NC coast pulling boats to land before the storm.. I've seen more hanging blonde tang in thongs than a pole polisher properly has all weekend..could die a happy man last night if the damm binoculars had not fallen out the truck & cracked .(damm drunks)..1 hour to fantasy draft & 20 mins till home to wife, cat & 2 dogs... "How'd ya do honey" I pulled your families boats & got a Bonus"()                 

Sounds like the makings of a pick up line.

Hey baby, wanna help me pull this dinghy?