@tour2ma said:

NEVER look ahead!

Aw... go ahead. I doubt our Brownies are...

Yes like saying that you are not going to look at a car wreck......but you always do.

...... not that next week will be a car wreck.  .

@mjp28 said:

Just a quick look ahead...

NEVER look ahead!

Aw... go ahead. I doubt our Brownies are...

@sdbacker80 said:

I see this game going one of two ways: we get humbled and lose by 13-17....like a 30-13 type game.

or we snap out of our offensive funk and lose a 30-27 type game.  I’m hoping for this.

That half point is key if you get 3 1/2 pounce on it 

I can see the possibility for the OVER in primetime but not for too much.

The only thing that concerns me are the injuries on the defense. The offense will need a combination of ball control and some quick strike scores to outrun LA.

Maybe 33-30 either way?

@mjp28 said:

Professional football can be strange at times.

2-0 ATS teams that are on the road in Week 3 are 3-9 ATS the past three seasons..... that's only the Rams this year.

Plus the line hasn't moved since Monday at CLE +3. I guess that's why they play the game.  

I see this game going one of two ways: we get humbled and lose by 13-17....like a 30-13 type game.

or we snap out of our offensive funk and lose a 30-27 type game.  I’m hoping for this.

That half point is key if you get 3 1/2 pounce on it 

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/?s=1400

@falcon7 said:

I don't see how the Browns even come close in this one, only if I give the points and bet the "house"...

Professional football can be strange at times.

2-0 ATS teams that are on the road in Week 3 are 3-9 ATS the past three seasons..... that's only the Rams this year.

Plus the line hasn't moved since Monday at CLE +3. I guess that's why they play the game.  

Then Lamar's....

Then Jimmy's...

By the time they get to the Pats, old Tommy Boy is going to be hearing footsteps in pregame. 

Myles needs those stickers on his helmet like WWII planes had. Big X over how many kills he has.... 

I don't even care about the "roughing the passer" penalties that get called every time they touch a QB.... put the beat down on these QB's. Give them nightmares and send them home in a body bag. 

@the-gipper said:

So.....you bet when it was illegal.....but now that it is legal, the thrill is gone?

Hahaha never thought about it that way but the bookie was way more fun plus the steak dinners and of course the payouts without the "tax burden".

Fun days, now it's like playing the Ohio lottery.

.......edit add, I also got my bookie go give up those icky cigarettes and smoke premium cigars..... good move!

@mjp28 said:

I did for decades with my bookie but occasionally do now.  I do however like FLs, pick ems, survival and just SPORTS in general......a hobby now I guess.

So.....you bet when it was illegal.....but now that it is legal, the thrill is gone?

@the-gipper said:

Do you actually bet on games?

I did for decades with my bookie but occasionally do now.  I do however like FLs, pick ems, survival and just SPORTS in general......a hobby now I guess.

@mjp28 said:

Thursday am. The BROWNS are still a pretty solid +3 across the board evidently there are no money swings on either side of the line.

Also can be taken as nobody really knows on this one.

GO BROWNS! Just score baby!

Do you actually bet on games?

Also can be taken as nobody really knows on this one.

GO BROWNS! Just score baby!

@tour2ma said:

NFL...

@mjp28 said:

The NE 43 MIA 0 kind of reminded me of a high school game.

Nah- sort of like the slaughter I'm going to attend on Saturday, with my good pal and his two kids...  One an Ohio State grad, one a Miami Ohio grad. Should I take Miami with OSU -39?    

BTW,. I don't have a dog in this fight- my wife went to Miami, but I'll be dressed in scarlet & grey.   

@tour2ma said:

NFL...

The NE 43 MIA 0 kind of reminded me of a high school game.

@mjp28 said:

High school?

NFL...

@tour2ma said:

True... Baker is showing flashes of 2018 approaching 50/50... but last year the ratio was 90/10 or more...

... and 23 is still not enough...

Heard on NFL Live yesterday (IIRC) that two lines of 20+ has never happened before.

High school?

@mjp28 said:

Well Tuesday pm and the line looks like a solid CLE +3 so far, will it climb up?  From Vegas insider.com .

Meanwhile NE is touching -23.  

... and 23 is still not enough...

@hoorta said:

& the Cowboys are only -21 against the 'Fins? Yahoo fantasy- that's the preferred play 70%, Probably  only because the less skilled Survivor players already took the Patriots last week against Miami & can't use them again.   

Heard on NFL Live yesterday (IIRC) that two lines of 20+ has never happened before.

As I went back and watched the game again, it's clear that we have issues, but they're definitely FIXABLE issues.  The biggest issue on offense against the Jets was not getting the play called in time.  Baker constantly trying to snap the ball with no time on the clock, and that's not fair to him, to the offensive line, or to any of the other players.  When you don't have time on the play clock, the defenders don't have to wait for the snap, as they know you have to hike it when it says zero or else it's a penalty.  This is a huge deal and completely unfair to the OL.  Additionally, it doesn't give Baker any time to decipher the defense, make audibles, or check to a hot route.  He doesn't get into a rhythm, the passing game clogs, and you get a choppy performance.  This has been discussed several times, but it's strange to see because it wasn't an issue LAST year, so why is it surfacing now?  

Also, will Baker finally be able to take what's given to him?  He talked about it after the Titans game, but we didn't see much improvement Monday night.  The one glaring example was on the interception, as Baker predetermined he was throwing it to OBJ, and instead of checking down to Chubb for an EASY 10 yards (maybe more, really), he forced it to OBJ and it was a pick.  These are exactly the type of scenarios we want to avoid, and Baker continues to SAY he's going to change, but he's not making the adjustments on the field.  

Baker is still showing plenty of ability, and as I watched again, I definitely noticed how nice some of the throws were.  That bullet to Landry before half time was absolutely incredible, and he had a couple to others including Ratley that were gorgeous.  Baker missed several uncharacteristic throws, including a very easy semi-deep one to OBJ on 3rd, and also an inexcusable wheel route to D'Ernest.  Baker opened up his base and didn't plant and throw which resulted in a lack of power.  D'Ernest was WIDE OPEN, and frankly, could've scored a TD because he had one guy in front of him, but there's a WR there to help block.  

Lots of fun stuff to talk about, and plenty of reason to be optimistic for a fun game.  Yes, we have things to work on, but so do the Rams.  They faced a pretty similar situation last week in that they played a backup QB and made short work of him, but didn't especially shine too bright on offense.  I think this is a game where our DB's are going to earn their money, and a game where Baker has a chance to explode for some big numbers.  Do not be surprised if we come out in the no-huddle right off the bat to combat the sleepiness of our offensive pace.  

Can't wait!

@mjp28 said:

Well Tuesday pm and the line looks like a solid CLE +3 so far, will it climb up?  From Vegas insider.com .

Meanwhile NE is touching -23.  

& the Cowboys are only -21 against the 'Fins? Yahoo fantasy- that's the preferred play 70%, Probably  only because the less skilled Survivor players already took the Patriots last week against Miami & can't use them again.   

@the-cysko-kid said:

They're going to be a bigger dog than that by game time. 

Well Tuesday pm and the line looks like a solid CLE +3 so far, will it climb up?  From Vegas insider.com .

Meanwhile NE is touching -23.  

@tour2ma said:

lol... and there I was yelling "Go! GO!" when Bell almost broke that swing pass for a TD...

Oh.... the things FF make us do against our nature...

Yes, complete assholery.