@texasag1969 said:

Top two that appeared available to us. SB was going well before them, but we needed a decent RB. They were the top two where we were choosing, but NE took Michel before he reached us. Prior to his injury Chubb really was the better of the two. All I can say is he appears fully healed now for sure. And ironically Michel has been injured a lot his first two years.

That isn't what you said, but that makes sense. And Michel wasn't available then.

I honestly thought you just forgot about Barkley 

@texasag1969 said:

 All I can say is he appears fully healed now for sure. And ironically Michel has been injured a lot his first two years.

adding in same concern at time they were all drafted...Chubb had less fumbles in college than any of them/touch including Guice...as of 2 year pros= Michel has 2...Barkley 1....Chubb ZERO...

@gunz41 said:

I wasn't saying anything to the contrary. But saying Chubb and Michel were the top 2 backs I would say Saquon would certainly be in that conversation too

Top two that appeared available to us. SB was going well before them, but we needed a decent RB. They were the top two where we were choosing, but NE took Michel before he reached us. Prior to his injury Chubb really was the better of the two. All I can say is he appears fully healed now for sure. And ironically Michel has been injured a lot his first two years.

@the-cysko-kid said:

Saquon Barkley would have been a terrible choice for us considering what we got in that draft. 

I wasn't saying anything to the contrary. But saying Chubb and Michel were the top 2 backs I would say Saquon would certainly be in that conversation too

@d-bone said:

.................... Imagine if Freddie would've handed the ball to Chubb - all 4 times if needed, against the Rams on that final 1st and goal series.

Smart coaches learn  from  their  mistakes, I  doubt  Freddie  makes  that one again.

At least it's not MNF's fabulous Genesis Halftime Show that's missing...

Check it out - Kitchens says they plan to follow up on the officiating.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-humphrey-beckham-browns-kitchens-20191001-qwiecexvhzgs7b6quwomcdnqgy-story.html

Little coaching adjustments like that, the attention to the finer details, it gives me a bit of hope for this staff.

@gunz41 said:

Saquon says boo!!!!

Saquon Barkley would have been a terrible choice for us considering what we got in that draft. 

@texasag1969 said:

In all fairness I had seen Chubb play pre and post extreme knee injury at Georgia and he had lost all of 7th gear. Today was the first time I saw him back to that pre injury top speed he had been so highly recruited for in the first place. Now that he has it back, I'm glad NE took Michel and we got the better of the two top backs in that draft.

Saquon says boo!!!!

@tour2ma said:

Thanks, jiggins... this really made me lol...

And I never would have guessed Chubb has more top end than OBJ...

And just as I thought, that 7th gear in that run was faster than the top end in the 90 yarder last year by a full mph +. This is a very good thing. Shows he has fully recovered the speed I saw him with before injury at Georgia.

“He can roll,” said quarterback Baker Mayfield, who hit 18.92 miles per hour while chasing Chubb down the field in celebration. 

And I never would have guessed Chubb has more top end than OBJ...

@tour2ma said:

That kinda speed would stun me... that's well above his Combine performance... albeit the Combine does not report top speed, just "average".

And while a 4.52 40 is nothing to sneeze at... his 10-yd time was outstanding.

http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Nick&l=Chubb&i=27055

Here's a link to the article.  Crazy, right?

https://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/nick-chubb-posts-fastest-td-run-in-nfl-giving-browns-2-in-top-5-for-2019?utm_source=google.com&utm_medium=referral

@jiggins7919 said:

One holding call and one false start (I think) for Kush, and yes...Myles had another one of his patented offsides that did hurt.  

I think Myles is in a 1 to 1 ratio offsides to sacks. I'll take that any day of the week since both strike fear in QBs.

@hoorta said:

But IIRC didn't Kush still get nailed for a couple holding calls?  Also- what was up there Myles on the starting your rush about a second early on the Raven's two point try? That almost guaranteed them a score on the next play. 

One holding call and one false start (I think) for Kush, and yes...Myles had another one of his patented offsides that did hurt.  

@jiggins7919 said:

Did you see the block by Greg Robinson on that run? He shoved that LB so hard that it caused him to lose track of Chubb JUST long enough to allow him to burst through like a bullet. Go back and watch that play, it's a subtle block that really paid off. In fact, Greg Robinson played his best game I've seen in a while. He also sprung Chubb on his other TD run and avoided his patented holding calls (I think). I also saw Greg throwing somebody's ass around a few times and I loved it. McPhee got the best of him super early one time, and then Greg laid the smack down (McPhee tried to bullrush Greg and was met with the stonewall, lol). 

But IIRC didn't Kush still get nailed for a couple holding calls?  Also- what was up there Myles on the starting your rush about a second early on the Raven's two point try? That almost guaranteed them a score on the next play. 

@jiggins7919 said:

I believe I saw they had him at 21.95 mph for 40 continuous yards. The fastest of the year from what I understand. That's stunning. 

Yea, but he can't compete against that old RB from Smallville High. 

@jiggins7919 said:

I believe I saw they had him at 21.95 mph for 40 continuous yards. The fastest of the year from what I understand. That's stunning. 

That kinda speed would stun me... that's well above his Combine performance... albeit the Combine does not report top speed, just "average".

And while a 4.52 40 is nothing to sneeze at... his 10-yd time was outstanding.

http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?f=Nick&l=Chubb&i=27055