@raven5220 said:

I don't know why you guys are getting all heated up and bent out of shape.  I'm just telling you guys how your team's viewed by the rest of the league.  As long as most people alive can remember, the Browns have been non-contenders..the current ones and the ones that moved here.  Well, the ones that moved here UNTIL they moved here. 

Cleveland's problems are that they are just a loser franchise, and that's much harder to correct.  One thing is for sure when it comes to the two teams:  Baltimore's franchise, the entire organization all the way down to the players, are well respected around the league...the Cleveland Browns are not. 

Once upon a time, I felt really bad for the city/loyal fan base of Baltimore when they lost the Colts to Indy.  I thought the owner was an epic scum bag to do that to you guys.  When the very next owner wired exactly like Irsay does the same thing moving his franchise from Cleveland to Baltimore - he's your hero?          

BTW, the Browns were 11-5 and beat the NE Patriots in a Wild Card Game just 1 season before Modell sold his soul.  Modell being Modell, didn't think Belichick was a good enough Head Coach to keep.  Just out of curiosity, what NFL Head Coach has the best record and most Superbowl Championships in the last 20 years?  I'll give you a hint: he's not coaching in Baltimore...

In their first 10 years of existence, the Cleveland Browns participated in every Pro Football Championship Game possible (winning 7 Pro Football Championships with 3 of those in the NFL).  The Cleveland Browns only won 1 NFL Championship when Modell was here which increased their overall sum of Pro Football Championship Trophies to 8 up against 2 Superbowl Trophies for the Baltimore Ravens.  What storied franchise would you rather be?  I'll take the 8 Pro Football Championships...

@sd_tom said:

Seibert and Gillan are the two best players on this team so far

Very ? 

@hoorta said:

What? Then you missed out on Jar-Jar Binks in the next one. Even us fans of the franchise thought that  character was monumentally  dumb.  

Supposedly, this movie will tie up all the lose ends. Carrie  Fisher's daughter  is filling in for her dead mom in a Princess  Leiah flashback. Still plenty of  opportunity for  Disney  to rake in  billions going  off on tangents though.  

I’m actually kinda intrigued for the release of the Disney streaming service. It’s supposed to be quite affordable and all the Star Wars/Marvel/Disney content you can handle and Simpsons episodes too.

@hoorta said:

What? Then you missed out on Jar-Jar Binks in the next one. Even us fans of the franchise thought that  character was monumentally  dumb.  

Supposedly, this movie will tie up all the lose ends. Carrie  Fisher's daughter  is filling in for her dead mom in a Princess  Leiah flashback. Still plenty of  opportunity for  Disney  to rake in  billions going  off on tangents though.  

I had seen the previews and that Jar-Jar confirmed for me I need not see that one or any other from then on. First time with the care bears - shame on you. Second time for me to go see Jar-Jar, shame on me. I declined and have ever since. Shame on those money grubbers. ?

@texasag1969 said:

Thhhhhhhhhhhhh!   I gave up on that shit as soon as the little care bears showed up in the 3rd movie. Rather watch Barbara Eden in Dream of Jeanie reruns. ?

What? Then you missed out on Jar-Jar Binks in the next one. Even us fans of the franchise thought that  character was monumentally  dumb.  

Supposedly, this movie will tie up all the lose ends. Carrie  Fisher's daughter  is filling in for her dead mom in a Princess  Leiah flashback. Still plenty of  opportunity for  Disney  to rake in  billions going  off on tangents though.  

@hoorta said:

Speaking of our only hope, I saw the trailers for Star Wars #9 today for the first time, and can't hardly wait until December.....

Thhhhhhhhhhhhh!   I gave up on that shit as soon as the little care bears showed up in the 3rd movie. Rather watch Barbara Eden in Dream of Jeanie reruns. ?

@jrb12711 said:

Forget etiquette man, you're our only hope! ?

I think it's never too soon to start the "Official" Seahawks thread. Now would be just fine. Start the "official" Patriots thread while we're at it too.   

Heck I could even get underhanded and block our bot for the next couple weeks......

Speaking of our only hope, I saw the trailers for Star Wars #9 today for the first time, and can't hardly wait until December.....

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

This was made on Sunday during the 1p.m est games 

Sorry. Yes. Sunday

Not Monday.

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

This was made on Sunday during the 1p.m est games 

Still more than 24 hours before kickoff. Ethics violation #32.??

@nero said:

Once again, this thread was started around Saturday 11pm Central Europe time, (5pm ET SATURDAY) 7 hours before the Gameday thread dueling ettiquette says. 

This was made on Sunday during the 1p.m est games 

@nero said:

Once again, this thread was started around Saturday 11pm Central Europe time, (5pm ET SATURDAY) 7 hours before the Gameday thread dueling ettiquette says. 

Forget etiquette man, you're our only hope! ?

@nero said:

Once again, this thread was started around Saturday 11pm Central Europe time, (5pm ET SATURDAY) 7 hours before the Gameday thread dueling ettiquette says. 

Read "The Art of the Duel" by ?. You turn around at step 5 and shoot them in the back.?

@nero said:

Once again, this thread was started around Saturday 11pm Central Europe time, (5pm ET SATURDAY) 7 hours before the Gameday thread dueling ettiquette says. 

I think you were sabotaged. Must have been a frisco lover

@tour2ma said:

Asleep at the switch?

Once again, this thread was started around Saturday 11pm Central Europe time, (5pm ET SATURDAY**) 7 hours before the Gameday thread dueling ettiquette says. 

**EDIT: It was Sunday. It wasn't Monday even in Europe.

@nero said:

¿Qué? 

Asleep at the switch?

Another week Nero does not start the "Official" game thread...

... another loss.

Play calling ideally would be run heavy with PA, screen heavy, and take some notes from Shanahan with the reverses and end arounds to counter the aggressive pass rushers. A fullback would be great. Hell stick P Brown back there. Already did it once.

@bjh2130 said:

So every quarterback in the league this week only had time for one read. On average baker had the 2nd highest snap to pass (sack) time this week and on the season (i dont count Fitzpatrick who has him by a tenth of a second because he's only played 2 games). Reference next gen stats.

baker has been awful all year getting threw his reads not just last week when he had bosa up his ass all day maybe willie was right about zampese at least as a qb coach

@jrb12711 said:

Just curious (and not in a calling you out way)-do you have an article on that? I'd be really curious to read into it a bit.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing/2019/5

No article just literally a stat thing that updates every week. You can look at each week or regular season as a whole.

@bjh2130 said:

This past week as well as on the season Baker had/has the the second highest average time to throw (snap to pass). The problem is not the offensive line. According to next gen stats. Just giving you more info to back up what your rewatching told you.

Just curious (and not in a calling you out way)-do you have an article on that? I'd be really curious to read into it a bit.

@atom said:

Baker only had time for one read which of course he stared down

So every quarterback in the league this week only had time for one read. On average baker had the 2nd highest snap to pass (sack) time this week and on the season (i dont count Fitzpatrick who has him by a tenth of a second because he's only played 2 games). Reference next gen stats.

@hoorta said:

And as they pointed out on the Red Zone tonight

I found the part about Higgins being shocked he didn't play very interesting. 

@browns52 said:

calloway is troubling....last yr he made some nice catches, but he also dropped passes that had td written all over it.......should have caught that one from mayfield even though it was not a good pass at all, but still catchable....could have turned the game around...maybe.......mayfield looks like shit so far...of course the ol is even worse....if i am seattle, i run the ball against a creampuff dl and lb's....on offense, i force mayfield out of the pocket and make him scramble to his right side....he will either get sacked, throw an int, or throw it away....if seattle can do that, they will clobber the clowns...

If, and a big IF Calloway makes that catch and rolls into the end zone instead of giving up an interception, it's 14-10 at halftime not 21-3.  Not saying we could have won, but it changed the entire complexion of the game. Football 101 says when the other team has you down by three scores they're going to ignore your running game, send the house- and make life hell for your quarterback. 

And as they pointed out on Red Zone tonight- the 49ers front four are so good, they can just rush 4, and keep 7 back to defend passes.  

@typicalbrowns50 said:

Not bitter. Your extremely bitter about the loss to the Browns which is why your back here still lol

I believe it was Ag (possibly Gunz) who said it best- and the analogy is perfect. It's exactly the same as an Auburn fan (after they lost to them) laughing at Alabama because they lost to Clemson. 

It's a new week, the Browns can burn the tape of that debacle. 5 down 11 to go, the season isn't over because of a bad loss.

FWIW, this Moderator is losing patience with our new found troll. Nothing will get you shown the door faster than pulling the old- we're great, you suck gambit. I might keep him around for kicks and giggles after his Ratbirds get blown out by the Patriots.  

@hx214 said:

Meh. 

Second youngest team in the NFL making mistakes and turning the ball over to many times.... (I still can’t believe that Calloway turn of events...)

Get on the plane and start in the film room tomorrow. 

To many games left to start whining already. 

calloway is troubling....last yr he made some nice catches, but he also dropped passes that had td written all over it.......should have caught that one from mayfield even though it was not a good pass at all, but still catchable....could have turned the game around...maybe.......mayfield looks like shit so far...of course the ol is even worse....if i am seattle, i run the ball against a creampuff dl and lb's....on offense, i force mayfield out of the pocket and make him scramble to his right side....he will either get sacked, throw an int, or throw it away....if seattle can do that, they will clobber the clowns...