@hawkfreak said:

I was just looking back at some replays from the game...and maybe some of the INT tips weren't entirely the receiver's fault. It looks like some of the Baker's throws made the catches more challenging than they should have been - or he was trying to squeeze them into a tight window. I just didn't want to unfairly totally blame the receivers...

Well, the one in the end zone with Landry as the target was on Baker....  

Glad you had a good time... The Browns will start winning games against top teams when they learn to not turn the ball over.....  

Usually- in the stadium- act respectable, get treated respectable. Act like a jerk- get treated like a jerk. I've seen more than one Steelers fan get tossed out for over the top gloating....  

We are back home from the game and we had a really great experience! 

I wended up going with my wife, daughter, and her friend and we talked all the way home about how good it was.  I really appreciate all of your advice and help with parking, food, and tips for having a positive time in Cleveland. The stadium and facilities were very nice and we had no issues quickly getting through the gates and security check. I  read some reviews of people complaining about it taking too long, but we did try to show up with time to spare and get in early.

Overall - Browns fans were fantastic. I definitely cheered for the Seahawks when it was appropriate, but I'm also the type of fan that tries to remember whose "house" I am in as an opposing fan and try not to be disrespectful or over the top with celebrating. The home town crowd was welcoming and good-natured ribbing was expected and it actually made the experience fun. Sure - there were a couple of obnoxious fans screaming some over-the-top stuff to us - but it was literally a couple of people. .The fans throwing things onto the field and hitting a security guard was unfortunate to see, but I know that doesn't accurately represent the majority of Browns fans. 

The game...Well I wanted a good game and it was close and competitive. But I was honestly preparing myself for a long day and was seriously worried when the Browns went up 20-6. Seattle always seems to struggle in the first half (starting slow) and with early east coast starts. Both O-lines did way better than I thought. The Browns had  a couple of sacks I believe - and I don't think the Hawks had any. I was definitely disappointed with the pass rush today. It was non-existent. Neither Defense did much to slow the offenses down.  I felt like Baker had a good game and that his receivers didn't help him at all - not catching passes and tipping multiple balls that led to critical INTs. And the refs...well let's say they definitely made some questionable calls. As a Hawks fan - I remember those games (and SBs) where we were playing the refs as well as the other team. It sucks - but it is what it is. I felt like the Browns definitely kept it close all game and had chances to win it...but of course I am happy with the outcome.

Thanks again for not running me off in the first place and for the conversation. The Browns, city, and fans have earned my respect and I appreciate the experience they gave my family and I. As long as they're not playing the Seahawks - I will definitely be rooting for the Browns to get their season turned around and heading in the direction that I think many people expected them to be going this season.

@dutch-oven said:

I hope he comes back on and tells us his experience. 

It's always cool to see our city and stadium through an outsider's eyes. 

Maybe he got some BROWNS merchandise on sale real cheap.   

I hope he and his family had a wonderful time here in NE Ohio and Cleveland, home of the toughest fans in pro sports!  (God knows that we have to be.)

@tiamat63 said:

Hopefully our guest Hawk enjoyed himself and our city.  

I hope he comes back on and tells us his experience. 

It's always cool to see our city and stadium through an outsider's eyes. 

@tiamat63 said:

That Oline may have been pricey, but IIRC, a farcry from "the best".     Beast Mode really helped make that offense go.  

Good point - can use this page to compare all units back to 1996.

2014 hawks were 4th in run blocking and 24th in passpro.  Patriots, ravens, saints, steelers, falcons, arguably broncos and bears lines were better that season.

@lbc-mike said:

getting soft as we age I guess.

Sigh-guess that just about sums it up (or should I say down).?

getting soft as we age I guess.

@mjp28 said:

I think that every team has a few idiotic fans like every city and state has their share of oddballs.  BUT there are good and great people everywhere you go!

GO BROWNS, go win a must win game and have fun!

(Oh Mike did you check out the IRISH POTATO SOUP recipe I sent you? I thought you and others might like it.  )

I did, I don't tolerate cream based dishes well, but thank you.

Mike

@canton-mike said:

$50.00 to park, the lot at W 3rd & St Clair is near Bar Louie, Barley House, Starbucks (my wife & daughter love it), & a very reasonable walk to the stadium.

SdBacker80 is correct. We have some idiotic fans. On the small side scoreboards on the sidelines is a # to text anonymously if other fans get too abusive. Security responds quickly.

Enjoy the game, hope it's a good one, & GO BROWNS!!

Mike

I think that every team has a few idiotic fans like every city and state has their share of oddballs.  BUT there are good and great people everywhere you go!

GO BROWNS, go win a must win game and have fun!

(Oh Mike did you check out the IRISH POTATO SOUP recipe I sent you? I thought you and others might like it.  )

SdBacker80 is correct. We have some idiotic fans. On the small side scoreboards on the sidelines is a # to text anonymously if other fans get too abusive. Security responds quickly.

Enjoy the game, hope it's a good one, & GO BROWNS!!

Mike

@sdbacker80 said:

Don’t  sit in the Dawg Pound or Near it with opposing team clothing. Don’t walk or hang out in the main tailgate lots closer to kick or right after the game.

You avoid a lot of idiots this way.  It’s not easy to just ignore and avoid some of these creatures.

We have some true idiots and I say this as I’ve attended games with friends of the opposite team and then I’ve  seen how other fans treat opposing fans in their stadium. We are bad in comparison.

there are lots of good food options by the stadium.  I like the Flatiron cafe it’s a short uber to the stadium good food drink and prices. 

Back in the day we used to stop at Corky and Lenny’s (pretty good deli) driving to the stadium coming into to Cleveland from the southeast. Grab food and tailgate. 

Thanks for the heads up. I'm still trying to decide the best place to park. I'm hoping the experience is not too bad as my family (wife and daughter) will be with me. I will definitely try to check out some of the food places.

You avoid a lot of idiots this way.  It’s not easy to just ignore and avoid some of these creatures.

We have some true idiots and I say this as I’ve attended games with friends of the opposite team and then I’ve  seen how other fans treat opposing fans in their stadium. We are bad in comparison.

there are lots of good food options by the stadium.  I like the Flatiron cafe it’s a short uber to the stadium good food drink and prices. 

Back in the day we used to stop at Corky and Lenny’s (pretty good deli) driving to the stadium coming into to Cleveland from the southeast. Grab food and tailgate. 

@hawkfreak said:

I expect to see the Hawks use George Fant (backup T) as eligible (6th lineman) throughout the game to possibly add more protection for Wilson.  

I do agree it may come down to which team can somewhat protect their QB - and also which team can establish some kind of run game behind suspect O-lines.

Hope ya brought a matching color Hawks Jersey. Heck, they may need ya to dress to play some OL.. Has D.Brown been playing injured, being listed with that same injury on injury report? I see your worry of Myles now.. Per Ourlads, Pocic is out & shown as your only back-up to both G's? Which of the 3 of Fuller, Roos or McKenzie should Pete maybe bring up from PS to back-up G? If Fluker is out? you may want to find the visitors locker room..   btw, if i reach the age of Pete Carroll with that kind of 5 hour energy? Am not seeing my Doctor.. 

@unsympathetic said:

It's not shocking you won the title the year your starting OL was the best and most expensive in the league..

That Oline may have been pricey, but IIRC, a farcry from "the best".     Beast Mode really helped make that offense go.  

Not a fun game for Browns. Seahawks don't turn it over, don't beat themselves, and Browns do both. We should play better than last week, but I'm not sure it's enough. 

@hawkfreak said:

Their O-line in general has been a big weakness over the years

It's not shocking you won the title the year your starting OL was the best and most expensive in the league..

@hawkfreak said:

Haha. Yeah. I get that alot. I'm originally from Eastern PA but have always not like the Eagles either. For some reason I started following the Seahawks around 9 years old. Just picked a team - who knows why I picked them? I remember liking Steve Largent. After a while of rooting for them being pretty bad - I kinda had to stick with them to see if they ever turned things around. Now it's too late - I can't go changing teams now.

I have always been a HUGE Steve Largent fan since were both legally blind in one eye.... He may not have been the fastest , nor the biggest guy on the field.. But he sure got open.. ran great routs and had great hands.. And a will to succeed.. Areal hero of mine...

@hoorta said:

But Wilson is great on the move, no? What scares me even more is when I looked at the 'Hawks defense. I forgot you have Javedon Clowney and Ziggy Ansah there. That's strength against a very suspect Browns o-line. Nick Bosa was virtually living in the Browns backfield the entire 49ers game. I hope Kitchens has figured out you don't try and block a top pass rusher with your TE. If that happens again, it's going to be a long day for Baker. 

I did check your injury report with your LT doubtful, RG doubtful, and his backup out. So may depend on which team can harass the opposing QB more.   

Wilson is definitely one of the best on the run - especially when plays break down and it turns into a scramble drill. WR Tyler Lockette's connection with Wilson is especially effective in those situations. But Wilson has been sacked ALOT during his career despite his scrambling ability. I'm worried Garrett could have a big day against our line. I expect to see the Hawks use George Fant (backup T) as eligible (6th lineman) throughout the game to possibly add more protection for Wilson.  

I do agree it may come down to which team can somewhat protect their QB - and also which team can establish some kind of run game behind suspect O-lines.

@hawkfreak said:

Thanks for this. I'll check it out. The Hawks have 2 starting O-linemen potentially out of the lineup with some injuries. I'm actually worried Wilson may be running for his life if the Browns can get pressure. Their O-line in general has been a big weakness over the years - and having starters out definitely won't help.

But Wilson is great on the move, no? What scares me even more is when I looked at the 'Hawks defense. I forgot you have Javedon Clowney and Ziggy Ansah there. That's strength against a very suspect Browns o-line. Nick Bosa was virtually living in the Browns backfield the entire 49ers game. I hope Kitchens has figured out you don't try and block a top pass rusher with your TE. If that happens again, it's going to be a long day for Baker. 

I did check your injury report with your LT doubtful, RG doubtful, and his backup out. So may depend on which team can harass the opposing QB more.