@mjp28 said:

Who would have dreamed of only 6 or 7 wins?   Well now we know.

I asked because it was braggin' bait. The other two were copycats!  LOL! ??

@mjp28 said:

Well we now have a winner well three winners with the 6-7 win selection. Out of 28 participants:

Who would have dreamed of only 6 or 7 wins?   Well now we know.

@mjp28 said:

Right now they have two chances slim and none and  at 2-5 have to play the undefeated odds on favorite to win the Superbowl on the road as +13 underdogs.

Fair chance?  Try have to have the best game of the year to even try to save their season at 3-5 with half of the season gone.

GO BROWNS,  "do you believe in miracles"  tune in at 4:25 pm and find out.  A win would be "spectacular"!

Well TexasAg asked and here it is....... looking back at the 2019 season, revised.

@texasag1969 said:

Dammit I hate being right. F'n Charlie Browns! Lucy is proud of 'em though. Another yearly WHIFF!

It's hard being right all the time.  It really is.  

@hoorta said:

So the vote is 2:1 8-8 or better. Just watch if we lose to the Patriots how the vulture negators will start circling, proclaiming the Season is OVER!!!!!

OTOH, beat the Patriots, and it's Super Bowl, HERE WE COME!!!!!  

@texasag1969 said:

But I'll go with 6 or 7. Ask again after two games with Hunt back on the team.?

Dammit I hate being right. F'n Charlie Browns! Lucy is proud of 'em though. Another yearly WHIFF!

We have the most football talent on a roster since...forever, but we’re hamstrung with a rookie HC.

Now in December at 6-7 some of those numbers are still possible.

(the above 10 and below 6 picks are however history)

@dutch-oven said:

The results of my questions could be hilarious at this pace. 

Could be?  

Or the perfect Lucy football pull on the Charlie Browns once again!?

I'm betting on us turning it around and picking up some steam. I see us winning decisively Sunday, then finally winning a home game against the Bills in a very ugly game.

A lot of fans are more nervous than excited about the upcoming game because if we lose, it will get very ugly in Cleveland. The season will effectively be over, there might be personnel changes, and we'll go back to discussing the draft. 

But we're going to win, despite how bad we've been, despite the weird crap that happens, and regardless of how we've turned it over so much previously...it's go time now. Everyone is angry and tired of answering dumb questions. Only way to stop that is to win. 

@dutch-oven said:

The results of my questions could be hilarious at this pace. 

It's easy..am the hyperbole sucker..predicted 12-4.. did i win the car? but i did us all a solid.. waived my rights to revised voting.. ?

@mjp28 said:

When I ran this poll earlier the was maybe a bit more of an optimistic look at the season.....every loss does diminish that.  The 9 or 10 wins was the majority.

The results of my questions could be hilarious at this pace. 

@mjp28 said:

How did this team go 7-8-1 last year?   I thought they were supposed to be better and more explosive this year.

This is the question that nobody can answer. People point fingers at the offensive line, but we've got everyone back except for Zeitler. While he's a stud, his absence should not cause a total fallout. Also, we added OBJ and had Landry still. Regardless of how much timing everyone nailed down, the offense should still function close to last year. The INTs should not be up 1000%, the red zone passing should not be abysmal, and Baker should have way more than 5 td passes. Furthermore, he should have WAY more than one td pass to a freaking WR! 

Turn it around against the best team. Man that'd be a blast! 

@dutch-oven said:

UNLESS they come out like a team reinvented Sunday. A team that looks drastically different than what we've seen so far. 

How did this team go 7-8-1 last year?   I thought they were supposed to be better and more explosive this year.

And yes everyone has injuries but last year it seems like they fought to compete and we're so close to a .500+ season with a rookie quarterback.

Now after a bye they get to prove something on the road against you know who.

GO BROWNS, it's put up or shut up time.

@dutch-oven said:

UNLESS they come out like a team reinvented Sunday. A team that looks drastically different than what we've seen so far. 

And I want this so much! I'm honestly not being negative, I'm really just saying that we've haven't played very well for most of the season, and if that doesn't change, we're GOING to lose a lot more games. 

That being said, we started playing better after the bye last year. Granted we also had a drastic coaching change, but bare with me. We're healthier now, we played good enough to beat a top 3 team last game, and we play well on the road for the most part. Do I EXPECT to win? Not anymore, not after watching the Patriots defense against the Jets and watching the entire game. I mean, they looked GREAT. 

Now, I will say that Darnold also missed throws. The 4th down in the red zone comes to mind. Guy was open, he had enough time, he missed the throw. That could've lead to a touchdown. He had two OTHER red zone INTs AND he had an awful fumble. The point is, Darnold had chances. WE will have chances, but we HAVE to hit them because they won't come often. Baker has that ability, and if our defense can somehow force FG's, get turnovers, AND finally get us a score...we can win. 

I just wouldn't bet on it! ?

@jiggins7919 said:

That's just it. We're not beating the Bills, the Steelers twice, the Bengals twice (maybe), and even the Cardinals are better offensively. How does our QB have 5 td passes? And he's not likely to get more Sunday. Nobody has. 

And I get that the first seven games were rough, but it isn't the record that concerns me (and you apparently), it is the way they've played. Nothing they've shown me in the first six games has led me to believe this is a team capable of going 7-2 or better over the last nine games. Hell, I think 6-3 is a big stretch.

UNLESS they come out like a team reinvented Sunday. A team that looks drastically different than what we've seen so far. 

@dutch-oven said:

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that if the Browns lose vs the Pats next Sunday, they will go 8-8 at best. 

They'd have to go 6-3 the rest of the way to finish .500. 

That's just it. We're not beating the Bills, the Steelers twice, the Bengals twice (maybe), and even the Cardinals are better offensively. How does our QB have 5 td passes? And he's not likely to get more Sunday. Nobody has. 

@mjp28 said:

Yes strange isn't it I've always liked Economics and Finance but hate Accounting (bean counting), Marketing is just crystal ball stuff and so it goes. I've always done very well in Management and enjoyed Business Law and Labor Legislation -but- always excelled in math, science along with history.  

Whatever you like I guess.

What I would like is for you to answer the question:   with all your gambling sources,  is there one that has set the odds on the rest of the Browns games for this season.  If there are none that do that, then just say so. No need to tap dance around it. 

@the-gipper said:

You finally hit the nail on the head of something.

Yes strange isn't it I've always liked Economics and Finance but hate Accounting (bean counting), Marketing is just crystal ball stuff and so it goes. I've always done very well in Management and enjoyed Business Law and Labor Legislation -but- always excelled in math, science along with history.  

Whatever you like I guess.

@mjp28 said:

That depends on how detailed the system is, some just go by historical data and simple probability formulas.  Some put other factors in play obviously if a team has had an easy schedule and a rough patch is coming up it will vary the results.

That kind of gets into the Econ stats stuff and the differences between probability and odds.  For a simple example you can flip a coin and you can get a head or tail but what are the chances of getting 10 or 50 or whatever heads in a row?   Same with lottery numbers any number can come out on any random drawing but what about drawing the number 111 five times in a row?

Boring stuff eh?

You finally hit the nail on the head of something.