@coachtoad said:

Yeah. I'm pulling for the Stros.

I'm pulling for nobody really -but-  if I had to pick one I guess it would be the strohs as in Strohs beer which I used to drink long ago and an American League team.

Now that's some conviction eh? 

@coachtoad said:

I agree brother. It will even out down the road.

Meanwhile I just put on the Wood Series. 0-0 middle 2nd.....,I need a break from this stuff.

@jiggins7919 said:

I mean, obviously it's more than JUST bad luck, but yeah...we've had some crap luck. How about in the Rams game and we pick off that pass and run into our damn guy who is getting off the ground? I've never seen it before. Just a bunch of weird crap like that and it needs to stop. Passes off our receiver's hands that inexplicably float directly to the defense? When's the last time that happened for us? Rams game? 

Anyway, yeah it's way more than just bad luck, I realize that, but at some point we have to get a few breaks, too. 

I agree brother. It will even out down the road.

@coachtoad said:

OMG this is heartbreaking. You think this is bad luck! Lol. 

I mean, obviously it's more than JUST bad luck, but yeah...we've had some crap luck. How about in the Rams game and we pick off that pass and run into our damn guy who is getting off the ground? I've never seen it before. Just a bunch of weird crap like that and it needs to stop. Passes off our receiver's hands that inexplicably float directly to the defense? When's the last time that happened for us? Rams game? 

Anyway, yeah it's way more than just bad luck, I realize that, but at some point we have to get a few breaks, too. 

@jiggins7919 said:

Honestly, that shovel pass INT was just another example of terrible luck. We've run that play before and it worked, and it's actually a really safe play! If it's dropped, it's simply an incomplete pass and no real harm done. This cluster taco happens to result in a pick because God roots for the Patriots I guess...I dunno. The amount of weird, unbelievable shit that happened those 3 plays in a row is absolutely staggering. 

As crazy as it sounds, we need to make more plays. "Duh Jiggins, thanks!" But seriously, we have no down field passing, we're not explosive at all, and we don't score touchdowns. We've GOT to get OBJ the ball down the field way more. We need to find a way to get points, but help is on the way. Weather will be perfect this weekend, Baker actually looked pretty decent (compare him to Sam Darnold...yo) and I HAVE to believe some of the penalties and turnovers will be rectified. 

Like I said in another post, we're going to beat the BRAKES off the Broncos Sunday. 

OMG this is heartbreaking. You think this is bad luck! Lol. 

@dutch-oven said:

The worst thing about all the mistakes and poor decisions is that the game came after a bye week. 

Nothing got fixed, boys. Nothing. 

That's aweful,. that's terrible how dare you say such things !

........ maybe because it's largely true.  Yeah go spot NE 17 points and then go try and go and try to pull off the MIRACLE which was on Baker's hat.  I guess so Al Michaels wasn't there for this one.

@the-gipper said:

Yea.  And by all appearances, the problems certainly seem fixable.  Maybe its a fact that this coaching staff can't fix it. 

As I ...and others have said....we have 9 upcoming very winnable games.   So far, we likely have played a number of teams that are just better, or at least more experienced at winning....and in some cases while the Browns lost, they put up a valiant effort, sabotaged by their mistakes.     But now that changes, a lot.    If this coaching staff fucks this up...and this team still keeps making the same blunders to cost them games..then that writing will be on the wall for this group of coaches.

The next nine games are very winnable.

But the way the Browns keep shooting themselves in their proverbial foot, I could also see them losing to ANY of their future opponents, even the Dolphins. 

@dutch-oven said:

The worst thing about all the mistakes and poor decisions is that the game came after a bye week. 

Nothing got fixed, boys. Nothing. 

Yea.  And by all appearances, the problems certainly seem fixable.  Maybe its a fact that this coaching staff can't fix it. 

As I ...and others have said....we have 9 upcoming very winnable games.   So far, we likely have played a number of teams that are just better, or at least more experienced at winning....and in some cases while the Browns lost, they put up a valiant effort, sabotaged by their mistakes.     But now that changes, a lot.    If this coaching staff fucks this up...and this team still keeps making the same blunders to cost them games..then that writing will be on the wall for this group of coaches.

Peyton Manning threw 4 interceptions in a playoff game - when his offensive line was outmatched badly.

Outside of free agency - I figure the draft will go LT, RT, and ROG.

But having said that, the shovel pass ...Baker should have just kept it and improvised on the instant of the total asinine breakdown.

Nothing got fixed, boys. Nothing. 

As crazy as it sounds, we need to make more plays. "Duh Jiggins, thanks!" But seriously, we have no down field passing, we're not explosive at all, and we don't score touchdowns. We've GOT to get OBJ the ball down the field way more. We need to find a way to get points, but help is on the way. Weather will be perfect this weekend, Baker actually looked pretty decent (compare him to Sam Darnold...yo) and I HAVE to believe some of the penalties and turnovers will be rectified. 

Like I said in another post, we're going to beat the BRAKES off the Broncos Sunday. 

@nero said:

In the Shovel INT the defender wins the LOS and Baker automatically hands him the ball, not thinking. 

Shuffle,Shovel,Shuttle? if it's Going to Landry? The play is called a jet sweep. If the ball hits the ground in any of them? it would have been a incomplete pass. It's why in the books, it goes down as a interception. The baffling part still to me is? No team can risk pulling their LT at same time risking this play. Regardless of jiggins brainy breakdown.. Even our pro bowl LG Bitonio has no super cape to jump a half gap towards LT to block Lawrence Guy..BaKe, first option is a handle Or tip option to Chubb. That was the road to take. (chubb reacted & saw it too) Chubb has a green mile in front of him (bottom of video) & OBJ clearing zone in front to block downfield..Baker needed & needs to quit playing Fortnite & start reading defenses on Madden.(notice 3 LB'er alignment at pre-snap, were running a sweep to the Pats strongest side).. It's 1st & 10 & Bake calls for the ball at 9-8 seconds.The check out was for McCary at LT to stay home & block inside and Run Chubb... the rest makes browns history that we just wait to see when it happens ? weekly & yearly  

@stillmotion said:

I was at that game.

My god was that awful to watch. i'll never forget the feeling.....

The worst/best thing about that underhanded heave of an interception is that a game or two later WEEDEN ALMOST DID IT AGAIN. 

@tour2ma said:

Still not as bad as Wheezy's backhanded INT...

... but somehow this is not a comfort.

I was at that game.

My god was that awful to watch. i'll never forget the feeling.....

@dutch-oven said:

When Weeden got stuck under the American flag prior to his first NFL game, he should have retired right then. 

I once saw Weeden throw a pass over a WR’s head so bad that they called intentional grounding. 

... but somehow this is not a comfort.

@coachtoad said:

You have to admit though it was pretty funny. The ball travelled maybe 5 feet. It kinda reminded me of the Sanchez butt fumble. We are going to see that alot the next few years.

I laughed because it was even more stupid than the buttfumble. In the buttfumble Sanchez fumbles the ball because Wilfork pushed the Olineman in a bullrush against Sanchez. In the Shovel INT the defender wins the LOS and Baker automatically hands him the ball, not thinking. 

@diehardbrownsfan said:

And  then watching a Progressive Commercial with Baker in it made me even more pissed off.

Why?