that means.............

what? "haha, it worked to perfection? Now we don't have to have such a hard time when we play the Browns in two weeks?"

I wonder. That's a fact, too. ?

Worth a read all the way through regardless of your judgement.

Watch this play and tell me any other qb (who goes to superbowls) would get called down ...

and watch the second sack. The last player piled on "with all his weight" ...no call?

the squealers have been getting carried away with their ref favoritism going ons.

and Goodhell doesn't hold the refs accountable.

@poeticg said:

I thought that Myles wrapping up and pulling him down upon himself was a pretty nice way of putting the pussy down. Mason after back to back sacks obviously wasn't in the mood for thirds...

Oh that one absolutely was. Myles was trying to protect him on the hit.  He didn't even explode and try to lay the wood like he could have originally because Garrett knew it was a meaningless play.  He put his helmet in his chest wrapped him up and turned him to take him down. I was facetiously referring to ice cube saying Garrett's hits on the jets qbs were dirty this year.

@bjh2130 said:

No Dutch. Don't you get it? Obviously if you don't learn to levitate and defy gravity you're just dirty cheap shot artist. 

I thought that Myles wrapping up and pulling him down upon himself was a pretty nice way of putting the pussy down. Mason after back to back sacks obviously wasn't in the mood for thirds...

@dutch-oven said:

Seriously, get over yourself.

Almost all of those "dirty" penalties Myles collected for falling on the QB with his weight was a TEXTBOOK tackle for 100 years of football. The one he got on Roethlisberger last season was exactly how I taught 11 and 12 year olds how to tackle a decade ago when I coached. How a defensive player is supposed to tackle a QB from straight ahead and NOT fall on him is beyond me. 

No Dutch. Don't you get it? Obviously if you don't learn to levitate and defy gravity you're just dirty cheap shot artist. 

@icecube said:

But using your full body weight to smash a QB into the ground (OFTEN THE CAUSE OF INJURIES) is a dirty foul. It ends up breaking collar bones. 

Seriously, get over yourself.

Almost all of those "dirty" penalties Myles collected for falling on the QB with his weight was a TEXTBOOK tackle for 100 years of football. The one he got on Roethlisberger last season was exactly how I taught 11 and 12 year olds how to tackle a decade ago when I coached. How a defensive player is supposed to tackle a QB from straight ahead and NOT fall on him is beyond me. 

@icecube said:

Right, and he's been making late/dirty hits all season. 

...that's objective.

@icecube said:

Thanks for proving I was right. 

Really? That's all you got?

Especially since what I posted showed how dead wrong you were.

@bjh2130 said:

Because they have went to great lengths to protect qbs. So is holding a dirty play or false starting? How about not snapping the ball in time? Those are all in the rule book. Not all penalties are dirty plays.

But using your full body weight to smash a QB into the ground (OFTEN THE CAUSE OF INJURIES) is a dirty foul. It ends up breaking collar bones. 

@icecube said:

Then why is it in the rule book?

Because they have went to great lengths to protect qbs. So is holding a dirty play or false starting? How about not snapping the ball in time? Those are all in the rule book. Not all penalties are dirty plays. In your mind there must not be a non dirty player in the league.

@bjh2130 said:

Falling on the quarterback to hard is not a dirty play

Then why is it in the rule book?

@icecube said:

Yea, which is a penalty for dirty play. 

Falling on the quarterback to hard is not a dirty play

@hoorta said:

The  irony is  if Garrett HAD just  dropped the  helmet and gone the good  old fist  fight route, he probably would  only have gotten  three  games  like Pouncey.

And why a 270 lb DE felt the need to use a weapon vs. a QB is beyond me. That's like saying if your 5-year old nephew came at you and you used a baseball bat to hit him. That's the part of all this that he will never escape from ridicule: He needed a weapon when a QB was rushing at him. 

@bjh2130 said:

He has one other "dirty" play, the punch or slap or whatever to delanie Walker.  All of his roughing the passer penalties are for falling on the quarterback to hard.

Yea, which is a penalty for dirty play. 

@tour2ma said:

All season???

Facts are stubborn things... so you'd better make up better ones in the future.

Thanks for proving I was right. 

@hoorta said:

The  irony is  if Garrett HAD just  dropped the  helmet and gone the good  old fist  fight route, he probably would  only have gotten  three  games  like Pouncey.

Actually, the real irony is that if Garrett had dropped the helmet and gone the good old fist fight route....he would inflicted far more harm on Maya than he did with the helmet.  Again...see Rudolph's reaction....he was more startled than hurt. Foam padding is all that came in contact with him. 

@icecube said:

Right, and he's been making late/dirty hits all season. 

All season???

Facts are stubborn things... so you'd better make up better ones in the future.

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

Charging a fully grown man who just ripped your helmet off right after you tried to rip his helmet off and kick him in the NUTs, is asking for IT, my friend.

Rudolph is LUCKY Garrett didn’t use his fists, clearly. 

The  irony is  if Garrett HAD just  dropped the  helmet and gone the good  old fist  fight route, he probably would  only have gotten  three  games  like Pouncey.

@bjh2130 said:

I think of how dan snyder really overpaid him (worst fa signing of all time)  and Haynesworth must have used all that money on food. I know you're saying people think dirty player and the stomp which I still contend was just as bad as Garrett's. The thing is though is that wasn't his only issue like that. Other things like kicking his teammate in the chest in his first training camp and the brutal dirty hit on MJD add to his rep

And it's different because the stomp was a cheap shot to an unsuspecting player. Myles and Rudolph were fighting for awhile before the helmet hit. It's not like Rudolph's helmet fell off and Garrett smashed him when he wasn't looking. It was a fight that got out of hand, not a gutless cheap shot. 

That's what makes it different from the McSorely cheap shot in hockey all those years ago. He hit him in the head from behind when he had no idea he was coming. Completely different situation

@d-bone said:

When you hear the name Albert Haynesworth, what immediately comes to the minds of probably 99.9% of people?  (the .1% being his mom and PoG)

I think of how dan snyder really overpaid him (worst fa signing of all time)  and Haynesworth must have used all that money on food. I know you're saying people think dirty player and the stomp which I still contend was just as bad as Garrett's. The thing is though is that wasn't his only issue like that. Other things like kicking his teammate in the chest in his first training camp and the brutal dirty hit on MJD add to his rep