@duckpins said:

Judgement is necessary in competition to bring out the best in others.  We have two buffoons in critical positions.  Baker has yet to show he has Championship brains and Fat Freddie is a classic case of Murphy's Law.  Who would you want Baker or Bernie, Otto, etc..  He may grade out to be the worst of the big five chosen in the 1st round.  He is already behind hopelessly Lamar, etc..

And he also may not...

I'll take Baker... if for no other reason than your other choices range from old to dead. But I don't have to go that far... take a minute and picture a young Bernie behind our current OL.

@furious-styles said:

Are you saying the phenomenon of  " bulletin board material " doesn't exist ? It does. Athletes can be inspired to greater levels of aggression and motivation by various reasons and sht talk is one of them.

Not at all...

What I am saying is that in light of the actual events at the end of a game just over two weeks ago the shirt was inconsequential.

@jbluhm86 said:

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Well, it looks like you got your laugh about the game. Too bad it's coming from the Steelers and it's at our expense.

You have achieved quotes out of context...and I have a stalker...wooo!!

@gorka said:

Exactly. I expressed that same sentiment a couple of times.

 The shortest lifespan of a T shirt in the history of mankind.. Never to be worn again.

Except of course by the biggest buffoon in the NFL.

...and then of course, who couldn't see this coming?

Oh, I know who...the biggest buffoon in the NFL...

@kvoethe said:

Pittsburgh media all over the shirt this morning...they are rubbing one out to how they rose up and beat a talented team...they are slobbing the tomlin knob with talk of coach of the year...how he is able to keep winning with scraps of a team.

Freddie must go back to the farm.

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@kvoethe said:

Yeah...who wants to have a laugh about a game?  He should be fined and suspended for having a sense of humor

@kvoethe said:

All I can hear you saying is..."get off my lawn"  relax fuddy duddy...get with the times ?

Well, it looks like you got your laugh about the game. Too bad it's coming from the Steelers and it's at our expense.

Freddie must go back to the farm.

@oldbrownsfan said:

"Pittsburgh started it"...is a whiny crybaby statement to make in the first place. Not a shirt I would ever want. For Kitchens to wear it in public was dumb and made even worse when the Browns go on to lose to the Steelers who then get the last laugh by "finishing it" as well.

Exactly. I expressed that same sentiment a couple of times.

The shortest lifespan of a T shirt in the history of mankind.. Never to be worn again.

@dutch-oven said:

Some of us can (and did) actually be objective and call this out before the game as a bad look. 

And that's perfectly fine. Lord knows I even agree.  But it is a point that becomes only more incendiary based on a win or loss.

Win and it quietly goes away.

@tiamat63 said:

Winning cures all. Had the Brownies walked in and handled business, you'd have MF's lauding Freddie in the streets how he's "one of us".    

We didn't win... So this is the backlash.

Some of us can (and did) actually be objective and call this out before the game as a bad look. 

We didn't win... So this is the backlash.

@d-bone said:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/steelers-glad-coach-never-anything-234640057.html

Steelers thought it was “stupid” of Freddie Kitchens to wear T-shirt

The bad blood between the Steelers and Browns existed even before their Week 11 extracurricular activities. But after Freddie Kitchens publicly sported a “Pittsburgh Started It” T-shirt last week, there may be no going back on the bitterness of the rivalry.

“I know that our coach never would have done anything like that,” Steelers left guard Ramon Foster said, via Brooke Pryor of ESPN. “Why throw gas? When you do something like that, you throw your players in harm’s way. He’s not on the field. You throw your players in harm’s way when you do stuff like that with a vengeance. And I hate that for them.”

Foster added he’s “glad coach T doesn’t do anything like that,” referring to Steelers coach Mike Tomlin.

Kitchens downplayed wearing a “Pittsburgh Started It” shirt while out to see “It’s a Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood” for his birthday Friday night.

The Steelers, though, saw it something as other than “just a T-shirt,” as Kitchens seemed to imply.

“I thought it was pretty stupid,” Steelers offensive lineman David DeCastro said. “That’s a lot of bulletin-board material. I don’t know why you do that as a coach. I just don’t get that. Of course it’s going to motivate us. What are you thinking? It’s just not smart.”

On Sunday night, after the Steelers’ 20-13 victory, Pittsburgh Clothing Co. printed a T-shirt that read "and Pittsburgh finished it,” Daryl Ruiter of 92.3 The Fan reports.

And coach T would never do anything like step onto the field of play in front of a Raven player running down the sideline. 

@dutch-oven said:

I'm sorry, are you the guy who referred to someone as a "Jew Boy"? 

Yes. And?

@tour2ma said:

If any Steeler needed the shirt to get up for this game, then they need to find another profession.

Are you saying the phenomenon of  " bulletin board material " doesn't exist ? It does. Athletes can be inspired to greater levels of aggression and motivation by various reasons and sht talk is one of them.

@dutch-oven said:

And I thought Baker was this great leader who inspires people...

That definitely looked like one inspired offense in the second half. 

Run by a very uninspired coach. 

Steelers thought it was “stupid” of Freddie Kitchens to wear T-shirt

The bad blood between the Steelers and Browns existed even before their Week 11 extracurricular activities. But after Freddie Kitchens publicly sported a “Pittsburgh Started It” T-shirt last week, there may be no going back on the bitterness of the rivalry.

“I know that our coach never would have done anything like that,” Steelers left guard Ramon Foster said, via Brooke Pryor of ESPN. “Why throw gas? When you do something like that, you throw your players in harm’s way. He’s not on the field. You throw your players in harm’s way when you do stuff like that with a vengeance. And I hate that for them.”

Foster added he’s “glad coach T doesn’t do anything like that,” referring to Steelers coach Mike Tomlin.

Kitchens downplayed wearing a “Pittsburgh Started It” shirt while out to see “It’s a Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood” for his birthday Friday night.

The Steelers, though, saw it something as other than “just a T-shirt,” as Kitchens seemed to imply.

“I thought it was pretty stupid,” Steelers offensive lineman David DeCastro said. “That’s a lot of bulletin-board material. I don’t know why you do that as a coach. I just don’t get that. Of course it’s going to motivate us. What are you thinking? It’s just not smart.”

On Sunday night, after the Steelers’ 20-13 victory, Pittsburgh Clothing Co. printed a T-shirt that read "and Pittsburgh finished it,” Daryl Ruiter of 92.3 The Fan reports.

@gorka said:

Sorry, but they started it and they finished it.

The Browns were supposed to finish it remember? And how would the Browns have finished it? The same way the stealers did.

I'm sorry, are you the guy who referred to someone as a "Jew Boy"? 

@jcam222 said:

Nah , they won the game yes. Never will change the fact they started that fight. It will always remain true. Our defense shit the bed today big time for sure and we got beat. 

Sorry, but they started it and they finished it.

The Browns were supposed to finish it remember? And how would the Browns have finished it? The same way the stealers did.

@d-bone said:

They may have started it, but then our best player couldn't keep himself under control causing him to be removed from the team - and league, resulting in hurting his team's chances to win each and every week he's watching from his couch..... that will always remain true.

But hey, I guess some Browns' fans think it's cute.................. Maybe they thought today's loss was cute too?? 

I sure didn't. 

Nope, I agree the end result sucked and hurt us. 

@d-bone said:

They may have started it, but then our best player couldn't keep himself under control causing him to be removed from the team - and league, resulting in hurting his team's chances to win each and every week he's watching from his couch..... that will always remain true.

But hey, I guess some Browns' fans think it's cute.................. Maybe they thought today's loss was cute too?? 

I sure didn't. 

And I thought Baker was this great leader who inspires people...

That definitely looked like one inspired offense in the second half. 

@jcam222 said:

Nah , they won the game yes. Never will change the fact they started that fight. It will always remain true

They may have started it, but then our best player couldn't keep himself under control causing him to be removed from the team - and league, resulting in hurting his team's chances to win each and every week he's watching from his couch..... that will always remain true.

But hey, I guess some Browns' fans think it's cute.................. Maybe they thought today's loss was cute too?? 

I sure didn't.