@the-gipper said:

That he is a nice guy does not make him any less of an evil necessity. 

Fair to say?

He's a lifesaver when you're in a jam gave us his home number if we need him....just like an attorney.  And I never called attorneys necessary evils they actually are good to know and have a good relationship with.

I know I've told you in the past I've had a lot of contact with attorneys, judges, politicians and the like even have several in the family.

Used to live across the street from a municipal Court judge who was a family friend and my one brother's godfather.  I live across the street now from an attorney who is the assistant mahoning country prosecutor that does my notary work.

And in grad school I used to golf with three law school guys who are all now lawyers......but one I had to watch because he cheated AND I was related to him.

So I understand lawyers or attorneys or whatever you need to call them all to well.....even you Gipper!  

...... remember if you're in trouble call your mommy when you're in big trouble call your lawyer.

@mjp28 said:

I like our plumber he's a really cool guy and has been coming here since our house was new 34 years ago. 

That he is a nice guy does not make him any less of an evil necessity. 

Fair to say?

@the-gipper said:

Plumbers.

I like our plumber he's a really cool guy and has been coming here since our house was new 34 years ago. 

Lawyers are. Not all of course, only in certain fields.  They are in the business of lying to protect their client.

Lawyers who advertise "I will make them pay" rubs me the wrong way. It sounds conniving, greedy, and immoral and is a reflection of the kind of person they really are. These types cater to conniving, greedy, and immoral "victims" looking to get rich.

Then there's the frivolous lawsuits...once a woman and her attorney filed suit against a hospital because the X-Ray machine took away her psychic powers.

Not surprising at all that lawyers are among the least trusted professions by their own doing.

You paid not one bit of attention to what I said.

And beyond that, here is a clue for you:  It is far, far more the case that it is the client's that have unreasonable expectations, and make unreasonable demands than it it the attorneys.  Attorneys more often have to tamp down the greedy nature...the "looking to get rich" expectations...that clients bring to them.  I know this from personal experience, obviously. 

And here is a profession that would/could/should be among the lowest on the trust scale:  Insurance company adjustors.   Very often they will deny a person's claim, not because it is not legitimate, but because in  fair enough percentage of cases they hope that the denial will mean that the person will just accept that and not pursue the claim and the insurance company will save a lot of money that way.   Similar things happen in Auto Warranty claims.....the insurance company will just tell someone who bought a warranty:  "oh, that is not covered under the policy"...when they know damn well that it is. 

@gorka said:

Lawyers are evil necessities.  Probably the only profession you can say that about.

Plumbers.

I like nurses, well female nurses.   

Education

• 18 Members of the House have no educational degree beyond a high school diploma.

• 8 Members of the House have associate’s degrees as their highest degrees.

• 100 Members of the House and 21 Senators earned a master’s degree as their highest attained degrees.

• 167 Members of the House (37.8 percent of the House) and 55 Senators (55 percent of the Senate) hold law degrees.

• 22 Representatives and 2 Senators have doctoral (Ph.D., D.Phil., Ed.D., or D. Min) degrees.

• 18 Members of the House and three Senators have medical degrees.

• 4 Representatives and 1 Senator in the 115th Congress are graduates of the U.S. Military Academy, 2 Senators graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy, and 1 Representative graduated from the U.S. Air Force Academy.

• 1 Senator and 2 Representatives were Rhodes Scholars, 2 Representatives were Fulbright Scholars, 2 Representatives were Marshall Scholars, and 1 Senator and 1 Representative were Truman Scholars.

@mjp28 said:

Dentists? IRS agents? NFL referees? I'm sure there are a few more.

But when you are in trouble lawyers might not be so evil......but you can still make good jokes about them.

If I'm in trouble I would want the most evil lawyer I could get. I meant "evil"  literally. "Necessary Evil" is usually tongue in cheek when used. Going to the dentist is a necessary evil. Dentists aren't really evil.

Lawyers are. Not all of course, only in certain fields.  They are in the business of lying to protect their client.

Lawyers who advertise "I will make them pay" rubs me the wrong way. It sounds conniving, greedy, and immoral and is a reflection of the kind of person they really are. These types cater to conniving, greedy, and immoral "victims" looking to get rich.

Then there's the frivolous lawsuits...once a woman and her attorney filed suit against a hospital because the X-Ray machine took away her psychic powers.

Not surprising at all that lawyers are among the least trusted professions by their own doing.

And how many members of congress are lawyers?

@gorka said:

Lawyers are evil necessities.  Probably the only profession you can say that about.

Dentists? IRS agents? NFL referees? I'm sure there are a few more.

But when you are in trouble lawyers might not be so evil......but you can still make good jokes about them.

@mjp28 said:

Be honest now some of those lawyer jokes were funny.  Eh?

Some can be.  Those were not particularly.

@the-gipper said:

Actually, most lawyers want to be boring.

Just curious....what is/was your profession?  

Be honest now some of those lawyer jokes were funny.  Eh?

@the-gipper said:

Just curious....what is/was your profession?  

Briefly, not the two page resume - I spent most all of my working career in the steel industry starting in maintenance, production, plant engineering, sales.

I had many other interests and got an MBA with a dual major in management and finance, started a tax business and other interests.

I'm now a retired sports bum.

......edit add, in 1978 I took out the GMAT and LSAT and had to decide between a paid MBA and stay in my profession or law school at Akron nights for four years and start over. I took the MBA but did take a lot of business law, labor law, legislation, etc.  I was 28 at the time.

@mjp28 said:

The real truth is if you're in trouble or have been wronged by someone maybe you call your mommy but if you're in big trouble you call your lawyer.

Yes they are an essential part of our legal system and society and a good lawyer is worth everything he or she earns and like in any profession there are many good ones and a few eh ones......but they're so much fun to make jokes about.

Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 100?
A: Your Honor.
Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50
A: Senator.

Q: What's the difference between an accountant and a lawyer?
A: Accountants know they're boring.

Actually, most lawyers want to be boring.

Just curious....what is/was your profession?  

@the-gipper said:

.....Thank God we have lawyers, otherwise we would have anarchy, tyranny and chaos.

The real truth is if you're in trouble or have been wronged by someone maybe you call your mommy but if you're in big trouble you call your lawyer.

Yes they are an essential part of our legal system and society and a good lawyer is worth everything he or she earns and like in any profession there are many good ones and a few eh ones......but they're so much fun to make jokes about.

Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 100?
A: Your Honor.
Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50
A: Senator.

Q: What's the difference between an accountant and a lawyer?
A: Accountants know they're boring.

@dutch-oven said:

I have no idea why lawyers are generally despised. 

They are despised because they are the ones that call others, perhaps even you, on their wrongdoing.  Hypothetical:   You are a fuckup or an asshole, you do something that is either bad...commit a crime or some intentional tort,  or you are merely unfortunate, like have an auto accident, or your marriage breaks down.  In our society, it is the job of lawyers to take you to task.....to prosecute you, to judge you....to represent opposing parties who want compensation from you.  So, you hate those attorneys who are going against you.  And you also resent the attorney you have to hire to try to protect you, because you don't want to pay money to them....for a variety of reasons:  that you are wrongly accused and why should you pay to prove that; or that you just hate having to go through this process even if you know you are wrong, or are at fault, or don't think your  estranged spouse should receive what she want.... and resent having to put up with it.  So, you blame the lawyers.

But, the fact is, it is the lawyers in our society that do all those things that you probably take for granted:   they protect the Constitution,   they protect your rights, your freedom, your liberty.  They..in conjunction with law enforcement  are the ones that put away the bad people that should not be free to roam around in society.  If YOU are the victim, they pursue your interests....they obtain the protections and compensation you are entitled to. 

Thank God we have lawyers, otherwise we would have anarchy, tyranny and chaos.

@dutch-oven said:

I have no idea why lawyers are generally despised. 

What’s the difference between a good lawyer and a bad lawyer? A bad lawyer might let a case drag on for several years. A good lawyer knows how to make it last even longer.

@hoorta said:

I like to think there's a shred of integrity in the reffing community. LSU won handily- so whoever posted this crap to get clicks was totally full of it. Go post me a link, OK?  

You are belaboring it.   I do hope their is a shred of integrity in the reffing community......and I hope that some of that rubs off into competency.

@the-gipper said:

No.....all my opinions are perfectly logical.......But, Let's see.....This was not MY opinion,   and I had already said that....that it was something I heard somewhere! And I admitted that it could be bullshit.  Also, see my edit about the kind of shit that is slung around here. 

And why have you gone full defensive mode over the SEC?  Certainly they are NOT above having their credibility questioned in many areas.  Maybe not this one.....maybe not. 

I like to think there's a shred of integrity in the reffing community. LSU won handily- so whoever posted this crap to get clicks was totally full of it. Go post me a link, OK?  

@hoorta said:

Like stupid opinions you pulled out of your ass? There was no conspiracy, never was. so just admit that was BS you heard somewhere. 

No.....all my opinions are perfectly logical.......But, Let's see.....This was not MY opinion,   and I had already said that....that it was something I heard somewhere! And I admitted that it could be bullshit.  Also, see my edit about the kind of shit that is slung around here. 

And why have you gone full defensive mode over the SEC?  Certainly they are NOT above having their credibility questioned in many areas.  Maybe not this one.....maybe not. 

@the-gipper said:

Then, in this world, you should become a hermit in a cave somewhere.  Because you can't avoid it. 

Like stupid opinions you pulled out of your ass? There was no conspiracy, never was. so just admit that was BS you heard somewhere.