@lbc-mike said:

He is another D Jackson.

Joe is better in pass coverage, but vs. the run I can see the comparison.

@tour2ma said:

No... not if his DC is a HC candidate... and Wilks is a HC candidate.

We might be able to afford Hunt, but I honestly see Joe gone.

Joe's a nice piece, but not the MLB I'd build a D around at any price.  He's got stats, so someone may be willing to pay him top-five MLB money, ~$14mm/yr, but it wouldn't be me.

He is another D Jackson.

@tiamat63 said:

In order - 

Doesn't every defense rely on what you just said? 

You can't just "scrap" a system. Because those are the alignments, assignments and calls/language that you've been working to make second nature for over 6 months.  

With the injuries at safety, Wilks was using a fair amount of 3 LB sets when last I looked (through my haze)   

Today is my off day so I'll look more at that part later.

Fair point, however if these guys are pros, they should be able to handle additional responsibilities/assignments.

Denzell W and Greedy W aren't 3rd stringers as you know. They were horrendous in Pittsburgh, on numerous plays. Guys who are supposed to be difference makers, guys who coaches want to count on.

We all have had bad days at work. Maybe a coworker tells you to bring some energy, positive energy your next shift. The difference is mostly all of us here don't have our performances at work on tv. 

Sorry, it's Thursday and I'm still pissy about that game. Our favorite team lacks heart, outside of about maybe a dozen guys.

@bob806 said:

The defense had absolutely zero heart in Pittsburgh. The entire secondary should donate their game check to charity, like a food bank. 

The Wilks 4-2-5 relies on a solid D line and secondary. LBs need to cover tons of space. 

I don't hate on Wilks but perhaps when your down several D starters, and your secondary is allergic to tackling, how about scrapping your system, and put football players out there who want to tackle.

Schobert, Takitaki, & Wilson are keepers at LB. Play a dam 4/3 the rest of the season.

In order - 

Doesn't every defense rely on what you just said? 

You can't just "scrap" a system. Because those are the alignments, assignments and calls/language that you've been working to make second nature for over 6 months.  

With the injuries at safety, Wilks was using a fair amount of 3 LB sets when last I looked (through my haze)   

Today is my off day so I'll look more at that part later.

The Wilks 4-2-5 relies on a solid D line and secondary. LBs need to cover tons of space. 

I don't hate on Wilks but perhaps when your down several D starters, and your secondary is allergic to tackling, how about scrapping your system, and put football players out there who want to tackle.

Schobert, Takitaki, & Wilson are keepers at LB. Play a dam 4/3 the rest of the season.

@texasag1969 said:

We already have a lot of vagina linemen. Why would we want to draft more??

I think that was a roman numeral 5. Mike showing off his Latin skills! 

@lbc-mike said:

We will Trade for help and draft some v lineman next year.

We already have a lot of vagina linemen. Why would we want to draft more??

@gumby73 said:

Am to the point where we have to pay Hunt & Schobert to 3 year deals.. I still think Dorsey has the hots to sign LT Trent Williams & I'd love to add a guy like DT Gerald McCoy for 8M to rotate at DT next season, like now at Panthers through this season only. Ogun comes up in 2021 ..Can Drew Forbes be the answer at RG or RT? can't tell ya, but Dorsey has to hit on a Lineman somewhere in this upcoming draft

Ok i got carried away..Back to the defense...FS D.Randall is asking for to much money or his deal would have got done before at 5th year option imo..

a gift would be finding 2 good Tackles

another is finding both good Safety position players...Redwine is what i saw at Miami..the wine can rock folks in the running game? coverage he scares me to death...

Trent Williams is an old , banged up lineman looking for a big payday in the twilight of his career... Pass!.. We've been down this road before...

@tour2ma said:

Know what??? Which team(s) are going to give Wilks another HC shot?

Not  so  sure Wilks will be a  hot  commodity.  Had the Browns gone 11-5, I  could have  seen it.  

@tour2ma said:

No... not if his DC is a HC candidate... and Wilks is a HC candidate.

We might be able to afford Hunt, but I honestly see Joe gone.

Joe's a nice piece, but not the MLB I'd build a D around at any price.  He's got stats, so someone may be willing to pay him top-five MLB money, ~$14mm/yr, but it wouldn't be me.

I have a theory that for every year you don’t do well as a head coach equals 2 years of not getting a head coaching gig after you’ve been demoted. Not sure what the track record of that theory is though.

@dutch-oven said:

If Wilks will be returning for next season... since he is the GM, I would think he would have a strong idea if his coaching staff will be around. 

No... not if his DC is a HC candidate... and Wilks is a HC candidate.

@gumby73 said:

Am to the point where we have to pay Hunt & Schobert to 3 year deals..

We might be able to afford Hunt, but I honestly see Joe gone.

Joe's a nice piece, but not the MLB I'd build a D around at any price.  He's got stats, so someone may be willing to pay him top-five MLB money, ~$14mm/yr, but it wouldn't be me.

@tour2ma said:

Know what??? Which team(s) are going to give Wilks another HC shot?

If Wilks will be returning for next season... since he is the GM, I would think he would have a strong idea if his coaching staff will be around. 

Ok i got carried away..Back to the defense...FS D.Randall is asking for to much money or his deal would have got done before at 5th year option imo..

a gift would be finding 2 good Tackles

another is finding both good Safety position players...Redwine is what i saw at Miami..the wine can rock folks in the running game? coverage he scares me to death...

@dutch-oven said:

Wouldn't he know? 

Know what??? Which team(s) are going to give Wilks another HC shot?

@tour2ma said:

I worry that Dorsey is making moves in concert with a DC who may not be here next year.

Wouldn't he know?