@jbluhm86 said:

Uh-oh, looks like we have another Stegosaurus that's gone and slipped free of it's paddock and is roaming around the park...

Except you depicted a T-Rex.   Learn your dinosaurs!!  

@unsympathetic said:

Keep those projections coming -- you remain the only one making threats regarding speech.  

 You're entirely wrong regarding my politics - but hey, facts haven't stopped you so far!

You, personally, support Russia much more than I do -- if Trump is a Russian, you just gave Russia the biggest military budget in the history of the world.  And you re-authorized the Patriot Act so that you can continue to give Russia the content of every conversation that occurs in the US.  And you're approving Trump's Russian judges faster than anyone I can remember in my lifetime.

Russians aren't the ones who disagree with you -- you are, in fact, the Russian.

I take back what I said about you being humorless, this is the funniest post I've read in a long time.

@hish747 said:

See, I can't stop

Keep those projections coming -- you remain the only one making threats regarding speech.  

You're entirely wrong regarding my politics - but hey, facts haven't stopped you so far!

You, personally, support Russia much more than I do -- if Trump is a Russian, you just gave Russia the biggest military budget in the history of the world.  And you re-authorized the Patriot Act so that you can continue to give Russia the content of every conversation that occurs in the US.  And you're approving Trump's Russian judges faster than anyone I can remember in my lifetime.

Russians aren't the ones who disagree with you -- you are, in fact, the Russian.

@dutch-oven said:

I always love when I see someone on here saying something along the lines of:

"Keep the political BS off this forum".... when almost always it really means: "Keep your political thoughts that do not mesh with mine off this forum, because if you posted something political on this football forum that I agree with, I would let it pass without a word"... The exception is hoorta, who actually just wants all political talk to stay on the trainwreck that is the Political Forum of this board. 

I will talk politics...if you pay me to do so.   I had learned my lesson to stay off the board for years until recently when I placed a non-partisan, lengthy analytical discussion of the current situation over there....a freebie.   And naturally  I was criticized for it being too long by most.  As I forgot that that forum is only at the bumper sticker level of comprehension.  Though, the one guy that did put some thought into things was calfox. Now, he went off on one of his rants.....but at least he puts some thoughts into his rants.

@unsympathetic said:

I agree, speech is threatened -- but only by you and your fellow idiots trying to smear everyone who disagrees with the lies you spew.

Coughlin tried this method also, and he just got fired.

@dutch-oven said:

I always love when I see someone on here saying something along the lines of:

"Keep the political BS off this forum".... when almost always it really means: "Keep your political thoughts that do not mesh with mine off this forum, because if you posted something political on this football forum that I agree with, I would let it pass without a word"... The exception is hoorta, who actually just wants all political talk to stay on the trainwreck that is the Political Forum of this board. 

You're right Dutch, but believe it or not, I'm really not that interested in political talk. It started out as a joke but a humorless forum member was apparently too butt hurt to take it in the spirit of good natured camaraderie as opposed to comrade-ry.  See, I can't stop. But threatening someone's free speech while accusing them of threatening free speech?

It's noT haRd to imagine who woUld eMPloy this tactic.

@unsympathetic said:

I agree, speech is threatened -- but only by you and your fellow idiots trying to smear everyone who disagrees with the lies you spew.

Coughlin tried this method also, and he just got fired.

I always love when I see someone on here saying something along the lines of:

"Keep the political BS off this forum".... when almost always it really means: "Keep your political thoughts that do not mesh with mine off this forum, because if you posted something political on this football forum that I agree with, I would let it pass without a word"... The exception is hoorta, who actually just wants all political talk to stay on the trainwreck that is the Political Forum of this board. 

Coughlin tried this method also, and he just got fired.

@unsympathetic said:

Much like russia, you're not funny.

Well, I thought it was very clever because it was both funny and terrifying at the same time. You know, because the USA is pretty much a part of Russia now.

@hish747 said:

Well, Jacksonville is the largest city in the US so that would account for a lot of support I would think.

In land mass, which is a joke. The "city limits" span almost to the ocean (just on the west side of the intercostals). 

@the-gipper said:

Actually there are several cities in Alaska that are larger area wise than Jacksonville 

I was talking about the USA not rUSsiA

@icecube said:

I gave you the facts. They draw more attendance than Pitt, Cleveland and so forth. I totally don't buy the 85k London # but prove me wrong. 

Here you go they got credited with 85k because this was a "home game" -17k difference. Then in just their home opener because of the bigger stadium (yet still not sold out for a home opener of  a team that went to conference championship the year before) they got 77k -10k difference. A whopping total of 27k and they outdrew the browns by less than 26k. Keep coming with your facts and I'll keep responding with "no vaseline".

@icecube said:

I gave you the facts. They draw more attendance than Pitt, Cleveland and so forth. I totally don't buy the 85k London # but prove me wrong. 

OK, I'll go through this one more time. Jags had to overbuild stadium for 2 things:

1. They wanted to host a SB. (Did that)

2. UF-GA games are  huge in Jville. Need 80k seats. 

If any AFCN team had 80k seats, they'd never fill them. If they could, they would.  

The Cleveland Browns had an 80K+ stadium that they filled for decades at a time.

@mjp28 said:

Relocate them to Jacksonville.

It wouldn't matter if you moved them to Brazil. 

@bjh2130 said:

Is that including their "home game" in London where they drew 85k? 

IDK, can't find stats for London games, but have you watched those game? Sure don't look anything like 85k to me. Maybe 35. 

That right there is 18k more than the browns stadium holds which pulls them within 8k.  Not too mention their stadium holds 15k more than the browns. So they had the opportunity to have 123k more fans attended their games yet only out did there browns by 26k in home numbers. Lastly I believe hoorta was pointing out when they  don't have a winning team (and the previous year they went to the conference champ) they don't draw. Even when they win they don't sell out lol. Granted they didn't have a great year last year but season tickets are bought in advance of the season and those numbers go off tickets sold not actually people in building. The tarps he is referencing is what makes it go from an 82k stadium to a 67k stadium. 

I gave you the facts. They draw more attendance than Pitt, Cleveland and so forth. I totally don't buy the 85k London # but prove me wrong. 

Seeing as how they have an opportunity to get more fans let's talk percentage of stadium filled. 81.3% for jags (not including London game because that's not a home game) 96.8% for the browns. 

OK, I'll go through this one more time. Jags had to overbuild stadium for 2 things:

1. They wanted to host a SB. (Did that)

2. UF-GA games are  huge in Jville. Need 80k seats. 

If any AFCN team had 80k seats, they'd never fill them. If they could, they would.  

@icecube said:

But you think Pitt deserves an NFL team, right? Every year Jville gets more fans to go to games than the Steelers do. So now what? 

Oh, and guess who outdrew the Browns that last full season on record? Oh that's right,  the Jags out -pulled the Browns in 2018. So should we remove

the Browns out of Cleveland again. Basing it on what you assert, it's time to move the Browns to London; Jville fills more seats than Cleveland does. 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2018/attendance.htm

Is that including their "home game" in London where they drew 85k?  That right there is 18k more than the browns stadium holds which pulls them within 8k.  Not too mention their stadium holds 15k more than the browns. So they had the opportunity to have 123k more fans attended their games yet only out did there browns by 26k in home numbers. Lastly I believe hoorta was pointing out when they  don't have a winning team (and the previous year they went to the conference champ) they don't draw. Even when they win they don't sell out lol. Granted they didn't have a great year last year but season tickets are bought in advance of the season and those numbers go off tickets sold not actually people in building. The tarps he is referencing is what makes it go from an 82k stadium to a 67k stadium. 

Seeing as how they have an opportunity to get more fans let's talk percentage of stadium filled. 81.3% for jags (not including London game because that's not a home game) 96.8% for the browns. 

@hish747 said:

Well, Jacksonville is the largest city in the US so that would account for a lot of support I would think.

Actually there are several cities in Alaska that are larger area wise than Jacksonville 

@bob806 said:

The Patriots should be punished and moved to London for two years for the Spygate 2 crime.

Have Kraft pay for the season ticket holders flights and lodging. 

Now that would be a punishment. Losing a draft pick and a million bucks isn't going to make a difference in their ways.

Relocate them to Jacksonville.

@icecube said:

No but it does dispel the myth that they don't have support. 

Well, Jacksonville is the largest city in the US so that would account for a lot of support I would think.