@orion said:

The Browns Hire Asshat Grigson Back As Consultant!

That's absolutely brilliant!   When you don't know what to do, you consult with Grigson and do the opposite.  Simple!

@canton-mike said:

That's pretty close to what I was thinking.

It was exactly what I was thinking...

Only question in my mind was, "Costanza or Little Big Man?"

@orion said:

The went SubNova!

6-10 sure felt like damn near Supernova after all the expectations for this team.???

@texasag1969 said:

Of course putting this in a football perspective, our two key stars on O and D blew up on us in 2019.???

The went SubNova!

@ballpeen said:

And maybe Monocerotis, which is about 20,000 LY away finally blew about 20,0000 years back  It is a red pulsating star.  Hubble documented one of the pulsations in 2008.  It pulsates violently.  It's solar radii in some where between 390 and 1900.  At it's largest, if you put in in place of our sun, it's outer atmosphere would be out past Jupiter.  The variance in it's size makes it a good candidate to put on a very spectacular light show.

Of course putting this in a football perspective, our two key stars on O and D blew up on us in 2019.???

@the-gipper said:

The way of the future maybe some something we haven’t even thought of 

Absolutely!...

@texasag1969 said:

Well maybe not that long ago. It's only about 700+ light years away.

And maybe Monocerotis, which is about 20,000 LY away finally blew about 20,0000 years back  It is a red pulsating star.  Hubble documented one of the pulsations in 2008.  It pulsates violently.  It's solar radii in some where between 390 and 1900.  At it's largest, if you put in in place of our sun, it's outer atmosphere would be out past Jupiter.  The variance in it's size makes it a good candidate to put on a very spectacular light show.

@nickers said:

3D Printing and Nano technologies are the way to the future , also.. AI is evolving at an ever fast exponential rate..

The way of the future maybe some something we haven’t even thought of 

@hoorta said:

It won't  happen in  our lifetime,  but don't  be so negative.  Only a couple  hundred years ago, the idea of airplanes was scoffed at.  Sure, the space/time Relativity problem is there but who's to say someday  someone  won't be able to solve it? 

The technology advances I've seen in my lifetime are astounding.  Guys are doing  astrophotography in their back yards now that surpasses anything that the Hale telescope  was doing  back in the 60s. Finding  exoplanets  was considered fantasy  back then too. 

3D Printing and Nano technologies are the way to the future , also.. AI is evolving at an ever fast exponential rate..

@orion said:

Probably never.

It won't  happen in  our lifetime,  but don't  be so negative.  Only a couple  hundred years ago, the idea of airplanes was scoffed at.  Sure, the space/time Relativity problem is there but who's to say someday  someone  won't be able to solve it? 

The technology advances I've seen in my lifetime are astounding.  Guys are doing  astrophotography in their back yards now that surpasses anything that the Hale telescope  was doing  back in the 60s. Finding  exoplanets  was considered fantasy  back then too. 

@the-gipper said:

When is Warp Drive going to be invented?

Probably never.

@ballpeen said:

Well, it may have happed 20,000 years ago and we are about to see the results.

Well maybe not that long ago. It's only about 700+ light years away.

@the-gipper said:

But we do have the flip flop communicators....which are passe by now.  And talking computers.  It would not surprise me on bit if the military has not already invented some kind of  phaser gun...something that shoots something besides bullets. And others, no?

https://www.popsci.com/6-techs-seen-on-star-trek-available-today/

Supposedly the military already has satellite killing laser satellites... 

Some of the stuff may never happen.  I suppose breaking the light barrier may be nice, but according to Einstien- time would go backwards if you accomplished the feat. Consider the fastest we've ever traveled so far- the New Horizons spacecraft made it up to 10 miles\second at launch, but the speed of light- 186,000 miles\second is many orders of magnitude away. And even if you got up to that speed, it would still take you four years to get to Alpha Centauri, the nearest star. Using a transporter- "beam me up Scottie"?  Well mass and energy are interchangeable. But ya know E=MC2?  It only takes an itty bitty amount of mass to create one hell of a lot of energy. Like a couple pounds of lithium dihidride for a 50 megaton explosion. So converting a 100 kilogram (220 pound) human into energy you'd have the equivalent of 5,000 megatons worth of energy you'd have to contain- and figure out how to transport it across space and then be able to convert it back into mass without blowing your transporter into another dimension.   

@hoorta said:

They're going to have to hurry up- According to the Star Trek TNG movie "First Contact" Zefrem Coltraine invented warp drive in the late 21st century. (It's one of the better ST movies BTW) 

Were already way behind in Trek chronology, Kahn and his genetically modified humans, and the first manned mission to Saturn already should have happened by now. 

That said, I plunked down my $6 bucks a month for CBS all access and bought a Fire Stick for the TV to watch "Picard" and it hasn't disappointed. The special effects there make the original stuff back in the Shatner era look almost comical. FWIW, I own the complete collection of the original series on DVD.   

But we do have the flip flop communicators....which are passe by now.  And talking computers.  It would not surprise me on bit if the military has not already invented some kind of  phaser gun...something that shoots something besides bullets. And others, no?

https://www.popsci.com/6-techs-seen-on-star-trek-available-today/

@the-gipper said:

When is Warp Drive going to be invented?

They're going to have to hurry up- According to the Star Trek TNG movie "First Contact" Zefrem Coltraine invented warp drive in the late 21st century. (It's one of the better ST movies BTW) 

We're already way behind in Trek chronology, Kahn and his genetically modified humans, and the first manned mission to Saturn already should have happened by now. 

That said, I plunked down my $6 bucks a month for CBS all access and bought a Fire Stick for the TV to watch "Picard" and it hasn't disappointed. The special effects there make the original stuff back in the Shatner era look almost comical. FWIW, I own the complete collection of the original series on DVD. I've watched every one of them at least once, and several a couple dozen times each, like "Balance of Terror", "Return of the Arcons", and "Arena". Of course "The Devil in the Dark" Where you get to meet the Horta.  

@hoorta said:

& why should I reply to  something that I already know the answer to? 

Because it is a trivia question and the point of a trivia question is to give the answer if you know it.    You would make a poor Jeopardy contestant if the only questions you wanted to answer were those that you did NOT know the answer to. 

   FWIW, the other was John Stallworth- and a lot of non Steeler fans can raise a serious stink Swann and Stallworth aren't worthy because of mediocre career stats. They only got in because Myron Cope was on a mission to get every Steeler that played in the 70s in the HOF. I'm surprised Rocky Blier isn't in yet.   

I was thinking Stallworth, but then I thought....wait....2WRs?  It didn't seem right. 

I've said for years, Clay Matthews would have been in the HOF decades ago if he had played for the Steelers and not the Browns.  

Or, if the Browns had pulled out a couple of Super Bowl appearances when he was here, that would have helped a lot.   I DO think that some of the voters just discount any player whose team never won (or went to) a Super Bowl.

@the-gipper said:

Just to put you all out of your collective misery.....the 1974 Steeler draft had 4 Hall of Famers come out of it.   More than any other draft class by one team in history:    Mike Webster, Jack Lambert, Lynn Swann, and...Mel Blount, I think....not sure about that last one. 

& why should I reply to  something that I already know the answer to?     FWIW, the other was John Stallworth- and a lot of non Steeler fans can raise a serious stink Swann and Stallworth aren't worthy because of mediocre career stats. They only got in because Myron Cope was on a mission to get every Steeler that played in the 70s in the HOF. I'm surprised Rocky Blier isn't in yet.   

I've said for years, Clay Matthews would have been in the HOF decades ago if he had played for the Steelers and not the Browns.  

@ballpeen said:

Well, it may have happed 20,000 years ago and we are about to see the results.  I like astronomy as well.  I still have a nice 80mm Meade refractor I still pull out in cooler weather.  I had a 10" Schmidt Cassigrain, but donated that to the local astronomy club maybe 5 years ago.  It has full computer assist.  Just set it, GPS does the rest.  Plug in M-81 and you are following as long as you want.  It was just heavy to lug around.  I still go to Clarence Jones observatory for lectures.  It is part of UTC….Tennessee Chattanooga.  The observatory has a 20.5" primary mirror.  It was one of the test mirrors before the 200" Hale mirror was poured.  You get some pretty impressive views despite light pollution.  It was out in the country when built in the 30's.  Efforts are under consideration to move another 20 miles out of town.  It is a magnificent telescope.

 As they say, the best telescope is the one you use. Totally understand not wanting to drag a 10" scope out just to use it. I have to say I got spoiled looking through the Clubs 12" & 16" reflectors at a semi dark site. Then go to a Star Party in the middle of nowhere out in Nebraska with the limiting magnitude below 6, and start looking through the really big scopes guys have- well. Jupiter was so bright looking through a guys 24" Obsession- it was enough to hurt your eyes. And you could actuality see color in the Triffid Nebula in another 36" reflector. 

FWIW, I have an old 4" Meade Schmidt-Cassegrain that I can haul around when I'm travelling- the biggest 'scope that will fit in an overhead bin on a plane, (took it to Curacao for the 1998 solar eclipse) and an even older 6" f\10 reflector that has diffraction limited optics I built from scratch way back in the 60s. 

@hoorta said:

Beyond a doubt- this sort of stuff seriously concerns me.  

Regarding Betelguese going supernova in our lifetime, it would be quite a show. Might be visible in the daytime? Get real- easily visible in the daytime, even in the summer with the sun close by. Some estimates say as bright as the full moon, but still a relative pinpoint of light. The one thing missing on my lifetime Astronomy resume. We're overdue for a supernova in our galaxy. The last, Tycho's star- was over 500 years ago. Two bright comets- Hyakutake and Hale-Bopp, and three total solar eclipses. Well, that and if we have another Leonid meteor shower like back in the 1800s.  They were coming down so fast they couldn't be counted. Eyewitnesses said it looked like it was  a major snowstorm coming out of the sky. 

Well, it may have happed 20,000 years ago and we are about to see the results.  I like astronomy as well.  I still have a nice 80mm Meade refractor I still pull out in cooler weather.  I had a 10" Schmidt Cassigrain, but donated that to the local astronomy club maybe 5 years ago.  It has full computer assist.  Just set it, GPS does the rest.  Plug in M-81 and you are following as long as you want.  It was just heavy to lug around.  I still go to Clarence Jones observatory for lectures.  It is part of UTC….Tennessee Chattanooga.  The observatory has a 20.5" primary mirror.  It was one of the test mirrors before the 200" Hale mirror was poured.  You get some pretty impressive views despite light pollution.  It was out in the country when built in the 30's.  Efforts are under consideration to move another 20 miles out of town.  It is a magnificent telescope.

@mjp28 said:

Or you can just ask Attorney Google.    

Don't be an idiot.  You know I know this shit.  But all you do is google and paste shit on here.