@westside-steve said:

I don't think anybody in the Democrat Party wanted to see Hillary in the white house for that matter. And to be honest Donald Trump was probably not every Republicans first choice. At least his supporters are enthusiastic. I don't see that with Joe.

There were plenty of hardcore Hillary supporters... I wasn't one, but know several. Did I vote for her? Yup... cause I saw the alternative coming.

Trump? Hell... old thread here had every other candidate over Trump for months... except maybe Cruz and Rubio. Took time for y'all to coalesce around him.

I was a Biden guy in 2008, 2016 and am now. I wish he'd have run in 2016... and I suspect he does, too.

@axe said:

I've no doubt this happened.  I just think that after the Epstein, Wiensteen, Me too, etc etc things that people are kinda numb to this anymore. They just don't want to hear it.  That and I think we all recognize that Joe is failing and isn't going to be the nominee..  NO ONE, save his puppeteers, want to see this man as the POTUS

I don't think anybody in the Democrat Party wanted to see Hillary in the white house for that matter. And to be honest Donald Trump was probably not every Republicans first choice. At least his supporters are enthusiastic. I don't see that with Joe.

WSS

@oldbrownsfan said:

Analysis: In Wuhan Virus Crisis, Hillary Clinton Exposes Her True Colors

https://www.redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2020/03/28/analysis-in-wuhan-virus-crisis-hillary-clinton-exposes-her-true-colors/

America avoided disaster with her:

@calfoxwc said:

another tainted by TDS thread. sad.

the hate. Just like higgardly's hate:

https://www.theblaze.com/news/hillary-clintons-attempt-to-politicize-coronavirus-to-mock-president-trump-ends-terribly

Analysis: In Wuhan Virus Crisis, Hillary Clinton Exposes Her True Colors

https://www.redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2020/03/28/analysis-in-wuhan-virus-crisis-hillary-clinton-exposes-her-true-colors/

the hate. Just like higgardly's hate:

https://www.theblaze.com/news/hillary-clintons-attempt-to-politicize-coronavirus-to-mock-president-trump-ends-terribly

@tour2ma said:

And then we can discuss how you came to be a pedophile white-nationalist.

I can't speak for the G-Man but for me it was the signing bonus. Carry on.

WSS

@gorka said:

Then there's deflection. Chris Matthews was a master at it. Every time the person he was interviewing was about to nail him he'd interrupt and go to something else. Glad to see that jerk go.

So lets talk about Lee. In what way did I pretend not to have ever heard of Lee Atwater?  If you're making an accusation it isn't gonna work.

No, let's talk about you intentionally misrepresenting my view on something and then somehow feeling superior because I would not let the lie stand.

And then we can discuss how you came to be a pedophile white-nationalist.

@gorka said:

Outrage of the week?  There is no outrage, that's the point.  If you want outrage Coronavirus talk is on another thread.

Once again this thread was intended to illustrate yet again another example of the left wing medias double standards.

I am telling you that all mainstream media is trash and full of double standards and brain rot to scare and outrage dummies. That is all stripes of idiocy. 

@logicisforsquares said:

Yes, mainstream media is terrible. All of it, left or right. They are the ones who get dipshits in a tizzy about the fear or outage of the week.

Outrage of the week?  There is no outrage, that's the point.  If you want outrage Coronavirus talk is on another thread.

Once again this thread was intended to illustrate yet again another example of the left wing medias double standards.

@gorka said:

How cute of him pretending to be oblivious about his roaming right hand.

Look at her moving away. He's a fucking piece of garbage pedo.

Hey Robert Dinero,  you don't wanna punch this fucker in the face?? 

@tour2ma said:

Borrow??? LMFAO...

Good one, Sebastian... pretending you never heard of Lee Atwater.

Brilliant move...

Then there's deflection. Chris Matthews was a master at it. Every time the person he was interviewing was about to nail him he'd interrupt and go to something else. Glad to see that jerk go.

So lets talk about Lee. In what way did I pretend not to have ever heard of Lee Atwater?  If you're making an accusation it isn't gonna work.

@gorka said:

Lol...there's always an out for you people isn't there?

This isn't about grabby shitbags, it's about the glaring media double standards.

Yes, mainstream media is terrible. All of it, left or right. They are the ones who get dipshits in a tizzy about the fear or outage of the week.

Good one, Sebastian... pretending you never heard of Lee Atwater.

Brilliant move...

@tour2ma said:

Clearly you have no idea how to use this site's search feature. Here..... I'll save you some time.

Above post will take you Steve's thread where I did make several other posts... none of which were about old Beer-lovin' Brett.

So now you know how it feels.

It's not that I don't know how, it's that I had no intention to.  I just thought it would be fun to borrow a tactic used by the left.

Whether or not you believed Kavanaugh accusers was not important, so I made an accusation which placed the burden on you to defend yourself. And you did. You had no choice.

And what do you have against beer?  I'm guessing you just couldn't waste a good opportunity to take a shot at good 'ol Brett.

@vambo said:

Trump Derangement Syndrome, a term applied to people who express deep loathing and fear of President Donald Trump.

Ah... well turns out I guessed right.

Isn't "loath" another way of saying "hate"? I believe I've addressed the hate issue... you can ask Kal about that.

Fear? Yes... that applies. The leadership of our country in the hands of one so grossly inept is frightening.

@oldbrownsfan said:

There are lots of calls now for New York governor Cuomo to run for president. They don't want Sanders  but a lot of democrats are looking at Cuomo. I don't think they would mind at all seeing Biden replaced by Cuomo.

Don't know about "lots", but I did mention this thread to my wife last nite and told her that "if it's true, then I could see the Dems turn to Cuomo at the convention."

Of course that could cinch the perpetuation of a major schism in the Dems. While Bernie's might be able to lead very nearly all his crew to supporting Biden, I find it hard to imagine that they would accept being passed over for a candidate who did not participate in the primary process.

It's a perfect scenario for Trump... maybe even the perfect scenario.

@mld-woody said:

Please don't say things like "your sisters" and equate me to groups I've never once mentioned. Look I'll try to have a back and forth with you but not if you keep up the typical Steve putting words in people's mouths nonsense.

 don't whine. Seriously.

I'm not going to comment on the first part. Been through that enough 

 understood and you don't have a leg to stand on.

I don't know what incident of Trump's you're referring to with The View. The fact that there are multiple isn't great btw. If it was the grab the pussy line well that was literally recorded. 

 one of the main topics has been the me-too movement.

As for this I haven't looked into how much is legit and how much is the normal right wing news cycle. If this is a legit accusation then yeah it should be 100% looked into. If you're telling me someone from an older generation did something like that I'm not surprised. Joe Biden especially. He should face the consequences.

  so specifically what types of actions would require consequences? Just give me example.

We'll see what the "MSM" does as the story is vetted. No, they won't plaster it all over the front page like The Blaze or something but it should be there. 

 The Blaze isn't the MSM. MSNBC isn't the MSM. CNN New York Times Etc are supposed to be the MSM

Again this just makes Biden a shitter candidate. Unfortunately though he's still better than Trump. We'll have another year of picking between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich. 

again food for whomever you believe is pure of heart. Let's see who can pull the sword out of the Stone. Remember if you switch the Sexes or the races can any story and it sounds stupid, it is stupid.

WSS

@gorka said:

I've revised the thread title just for you.

"Even if it's true" ?  LOL

That's funny from someone who believed all the allegations brought up against Brett Kavanaugh to be true.

Clearly you have no idea how to use this site's search feature. Here..... I'll save you some time.

@tour2ma said:

I'm happy with the developments of the day.

If any of the allegations are shown to be true and Kavanaugh was lying under oath then Kananaugh is history... including removal from the DC Court of Appeals.

If the allegations are shown to be false and Cavanaugh was truthful in his testimony, then he should be confirmed 100-0.

Above post will take you Steve's thread where I did make several other posts... none of which were about old Beer-lovin' Brett.

@mld-woody said:

I mean, if that's all true, it definitely makes Biden a less attractive candidate in my eyes. Honestly I still feel he's better than Trump, but I'm getting into the "lesser of two evils" vote. And I hate that. That's why I voted third party last time. 

This blows the mind. You can't possibly claim to be "honest" by saying you honestly believe Biden is better than Trump.

What are some of Biden's accomplishment's?

"Lesser than two evils" ?  What has Trump done DURING HIS PRESIDENCY that you would consider evil?

You've seen Joe Biden who on tape has admitted to bribing Ukraine by threatening to withhold aid if the investigation of his sons corruption were not stopped.

He's a known groper.

He has openly made racist comments.

And is suffering from the onset of dementia.

How cute of him pretending to be oblivious about his roaming right hand.

@westside-steve said:

Please don't say things like "your sisters" and equate me to groups I've never once mentioned. Look I'll try to have a back and forth with you but not if you keep up the typical Steve putting words in people's mouths nonsense.

I'm not going to comment on the first part. Been through that enough 

I don't know what incident of Trump's you're referring to with The View. The fact that there are multiple isn't great btw. If it was the grab the pussy line well that was literally recorded. 

As for this I haven't looked into how much is legit and how much is the normal right wing news cycle. If this is a legit accusation then yeah it should be 100% looked into. If you're telling me someone from an older generation did something like that I'm not surprised. Joe Biden especially. He should face the consequences.

We'll see what the "MSM" does as the story is vetted. No, they won't plaster it all over the front page like The Blaze or something but it should be there. 

Again this just makes Biden a shitter candidate. Unfortunately though he's still better than Trump. We'll have another year of picking between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich. 

@mld-woody said:

No I'm referring to the "she shouldn't have been dressed that way" Steve brand.

 If you think women should be equal then it can't be against the law to be rude to them. Simple as that. If I tell you to blow me or say suck my dick Woody or kiss my ass and you went to HR tried to get me fired I'd think you were a pansy. So what everybody here.

I mean, if that's all true, it definitely makes Biden a less attractive candidate in my eyes. Honestly I still feel he's better than Trump, but I'm getting into the "lesser of two evils" vote. And I hate that. That's why I voted third party last time. 

vote for whoever you want. Try to stay focused on the point but the MSM is surprisingly silent because they are all fans of Joe. You suppose your sisters on The View are going to have a fit like they did for the last 3 years?

@mld-woody said:

That's why I voted third party last time. 

Don't let the pundits scare you, saying "you're throwing your vote away." 

Not that many would care, but here's my voting history for President since I was eligible in the 1984 election: voted for Reagan 1984, W in 2000, Obama in 2012. In other words, only 3 times in 9 presidential elections I voted for a D or R. Too bad Perot went semi-insane, it seemed he made sense at one time.

I'm basically a centrist that leans a tad left, but IMHO, particularly right now, a vote for a D or R this fall endorses the continuous cycle of obstructionism both parties love to do. While I don't really view Presidents as obstructionists, certainly Congress has been and I know we're all tired of it.