EDIT:... etc.

@tour2ma said:

lol... gonna save this for when Florida passes them all.

Have you looked at Cali's numbers lately?

lol .... you do know what "etc" means, right? I got two of the top three offhand, should have included New Jersey - also extremely democrat. with being sanctuary states. And yes, Florida has several sanctuary counties.

and yes, florida is right up there to. Makes my freakin point.

+ New York MAP »	83,889	427.6	1,941	9.9	Feb. 26 Mar. 31
+ New Jersey MAP »	22,255	250.6	355	4.0
+ California MAP »	9,599	24.5	206	0.5
+ Florida MAP »	7,765	37.7	101	0.5

@calfoxwc said:

NY, Cali, oregon..etc...

Sanctuary States for Disasters

lol... gonna save this for when Florida passes them all.

Have you looked at Cali's numbers lately?

@calfoxwc said:

Tucker Carlson

Journalist

LMFAO... good one, cal...

@oldbrownsfan said:

Uhm no Tour it was Biden whose numbers went up when Warren got out of the race. The dem establishment and their media allies did a good job in taking down Sanders. Sanders didn't seem too demoralized last time around in 2016 when Hillary Clinton and the DNC shafted him so he doesn't seem to get too upset at these things. 

Ummmm, yes...

Warren suspended on March 5th... the soonest a decent poll could be assembled, put into the field,  tabulated and reported would be March 8th.

Look at the 538 graph I posted. The last little sliver of a bump for both Biden and Sanders came on March 8th. Both gained roughly 5%.

The bigger rise preceding Biden's last little blip? Other Dem nominees dropping out after S. Carolina.

Any questions?

@oldbrownsfan said:

Looks like some democrats are looking to Obama to help get Biden to exit the race...

or... and I've got money on this one... once again OBF shows an inability to differentiate an opinion piece from reporting...

Yup...

Looks like I win again.

Pssst... OBF... here's how you can often tell... there's a little red(?) box that says "OPINION" in it...

Plus the word "need" in the title is also a clue, it's how I knew before I clicked on the link to place the bet.

Sanctuary States for Disasters

@calfoxwc said:

Tucker Carlson

Journalist

Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson is an American conservative journalist, author and political commentator who has hosted the nightly political talk show Tucker Carlson Tonight on Fox News since 2016.

Journalist 

Lol

@tour2ma said:

Not being one of those lefties, I would not know.

 as with anything I say if anybody here doesn't fall into the description no reason to defend themselves. Fair enough. But is Biden your guy? Would you like to see somebody else in that slot?

First... "rightly suggested there might be?" How could I ever question such strong, decisive leadership...   Guess it pays to be deranged...

 no he didn't issue an executive order. Here's a question do you think we'd be better off if he did? In New York? You think Cuomo should take some blame for spreading the disease? For the convenience of some rich people who like to fly in and out?

Moving on...

What does a quarantine add to an area when all are under orders to stay in?

 nothing really if if it isn't enforced. Which it isn't. See below. 

Plus since a true quarantine blocks ingress as well as egress, how would the areas be supplied?

exactly oh, of course if 80% of the businesses remain open that people can shop at will why bother punishing the other 20%? What's to be gained? Grandstanding? Plenty of that going on.

WSS

@tour2ma said:

No concern about traffic in the other direction? Don't look now but there are early signs of Spring Break Breakouts where Tectonix tracked the cell phone migration out of Ft. Lauderdale.

Didn't I say in and out of New York? If I didn't I should.

Seattle's transmission rate was 2.7 when it was becoming our first Hot Zone. Now after weeks of lockdown it's down to 1.4. So when you are ready for the call for a national Lock Down, let me know.

@tour2ma said:

WTF is a "Carlson?"

Tucker Carlson

Journalist

Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson is an American conservative journalist, author and political commentator who has hosted the nightly political talk show Tucker Carlson Tonight on Fox News since 2016.

@tour2ma said:

Folks... meet the proverbial fly on the DNC wall. But, hey, at least it was your thoughts, OBF.

Moderate Dems were split among several candidates while Bernie was riding a decent percentage of his true believers from 2016. But once Joe pulled S. Carolina out of his ass... as his campaign had been telling all who would listen that he would... the bulk of the Dems turned to him. Sanders' numbers haven't fallen. Joe's rose... Know who else's rose? Sanders... when Warren dropped out.

So, in short, your prediction sucked.

As for Sanders being demoralized... have you seen him lately?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/national/

Uhm no Tour it was Biden whose numbers went up when Warren got out of the race. The dem establishment and their media allies did a good job in taking down Sanders. Sanders didn't seem too demoralized last time around in 2016 when Hillary Clinton and the DNC shafted him so he doesn't seem to get too upset at these things.

Biden, not Sanders, gains in popularity after Warren drops out: Reuters/Ipsos poll

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-democrats-poll/biden-not-sanders-gains-in-popularity-after-warren-drops-out-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN20W31R

@tour2ma said:

WTF is a "Carlson?"

And how does the DNC revoke a nomination?

Joe... looked shaky at times... especially in the mass debates when limited time forced him to make his points quickly, concisely. I'd be lying, if I said I was not a tad concerned.

But 1-on-1 vs. Bernie he was much more controlled, relaxed and in command. The collective sigh of relief was nationwide... well, except in Vermont...

I can't wait for the debates with Trump...

Looks like some democrats are looking to Obama to help get Biden to exit the race...

Democrats need to recruit Obama to bench Biden, find another candidate: Goodwin

Looking isolated and lapsing into occasional gibberish, he seemed ­every bit the mentally challenged 77-year-old he was on the worst days of the campaign. Although he did better on a CNN virtual town hall Friday, his tics, such as having a three-point answer to every question, do not inspire confidence that he is capable of being president for four years.

I also am looking forward to see Biden debating Trump...it should be...interesting.

So what can Dems do?

Find another nominee. But first, they must bench Biden, or persuade him to bench himself.

It’s a job for Barack Obama.

The former president remains the most trusted member of his party and is uniquely situated to deliver the bad news to his vice president. In fact, it won’t be a total surprise given that Obama never endorsed Biden, despite making it clear he did not want Sanders, the only other choice, to be the nominee.

Obama could pitch withdrawal as a final public service to country and party. For all we know, members of Biden’s family share the idea and would welcome Obama’s intervention.

The timing is tricky because the remaining primary schedule is in flux, leaving Biden about 800 delegates short of the required majority of 1,991. It is even possible the July convention will be postponed or canceled, creating huge complications around the nomination.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/democrats-need-to-recruit-obama-to-bench-biden-find-another-candidate-goodwin/

@oldbrownsfan said:

Carlson claimed

WTF is a "Carlson?"

And how does the DNC revoke a nomination?

Early on Joe looked shaky at times... especially in the mass debates when limited time forced him to make his points quickly, concisely. I'd be lying, if I said I was not a tad concerned.

But 1-on-1 vs. Bernie he was much more controlled, relaxed and in command. The collective sigh of relief was nationwide... well, except in Vermont...

I can't wait for the debates with Trump...

@westside-steve said:

Meanwhile paisan how many planes are coming in and out of New York from Florida every day? Coronavirus seems to be climbing to the top of the list of New York's exports.

No concern about traffic in the other direction? Don't look now but there are early signs of Spring Break Breakouts where Tectonix tracked the cell phone migration out of Ft. Lauderdale.

Seattle's transmission rate was 2.7 when it was becoming our first Hot Zone. Now after weeks of lockdown it's down to 1.4. So when you are ready for the call for a national Lock Down, let me know.

@westside-steve said:

I see a lot of lefties on Facebook falling all over themselves in praise of the guy. Besides the fact that lefties love any Democrat that doesn't seem quite as addled as Joe what's the attraction?

Not being one of those lefties, I would not know.

@westside-steve said:

And when Trump rightly suggested there might be a travel ban against the virus hotbed New York City exporting that germ everywhere in the world the governor said it would be an act of War. Come on Governor I thought people safety was priority number one???

First... "rightly suggested there might be?" How could I ever question such strong, decisive leadership...   Guess it pays to be deranged...

Moving on...

What does a quarantine add to an area when all are under orders to stay in?

Plus since a true quarantine blocks ingress as well as egress, how would the areas be supplied?

@oldbrownsfan said:

The democrats had a huge field of weak candidates running and the democrat establishment (using their media allies) put their fingers on the scale and decided to go with Biden believing he had the best chance to beat Trump.  When Sanders looked to be unbeatable the dem establishment knew this country would not elect an open socialist like Sanders so they went to work at CNN and MSNBC and other media allies to demonize Sanders. I predicted at the time Sanders would fall in the polls with the liberal media turning against him and he fell like a rock.

Folks... meet the proverbial fly on the DNC wall. But, hey, at least it was your thoughts, OBF.

Moderate Dems were split among several candidates while Bernie was riding a decent percentage of his true believers from 2016. But once Joe pulled S. Carolina out of his ass... as his campaign had been telling all who would listen that he would... the bulk of the Dems turned to him. Sanders' numbers haven't fallen. Joe's rose... Know who else's rose? Sanders... when Warren dropped out.

So, in short, your prediction sucked.

As for Sanders being demoralized... have you seen him lately?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/national/

I’ve mellowed on him. He has no real options except to continue the path he’s on