Better?

@tour2ma said:

Mention something and you are "being honest"... harp on it repeatedly and you've being mean-spirited.

I saw the broadcast, and I don't think he harped on it.   I know he had something snarky to say about Kellen Clemens...about not being able to watch him.  And I think he had some criticism for Jeff Fisher and his offense.   But, then, apparently Rams management must come to agree with Kosar because they fired Fisher like at the end of that season

@the-gipper said:

Meh,  he was just honest....and accurate.  But sure, you sometimes can't speak the brutal truth in those jobs.  You must be "sensitive". 

Mention something and you are "being honest"... harp on it repeatedly and you've being mean-spirited.

@dutch-oven said:

Chris Collingsworth sometimes get shit from football fans, but I think he does a really good job. Knows his shit, yet comes off not taking it too seriously. Has fun.

Also, he's absolutely despised by Steelers fans. 

He must be doing something right. 

He played the Steelers when their thuggery was at its height.   And I think he observes that they have not changed a lot.

@dutch-oven said:

Chris Collingsworth sometimes get shit from football fans, but I think he does a really good job. Knows his shit, yet comes off not taking it too seriously. Has fun.

Also, he's absolutely despised by Steelers fans. 

He must be doing something right. 

Collingsworth works hard at game preparation for his show plus keeping up with Al Michaels must be challenging.

I didn't like him as a Bengal because he could beat you as a WR.

I'm sure Steeler fans agree.

Also, he's absolutely despised by Steelers fans. 

He must be doing something right. 

@tour2ma said:

Yup... NFL Network's Preseason replays use the local broadcast audio. Years ago it was a half of one team's crew and the other of the other.

Now every game is replayed at least twice so it tends to be one audio on one and one on the other. Now I record a couple of the replays hoping to snag at least one by our guys.

Both Romo and Bernie call the D out and where the QB should look first... etc.

I think Bernie might have had a shot at a color gig, if he hadn't gone overboard that one game dumping in a QB for being garbage... I forget who the hell it was... and it may have been true, but it was mean-spirited. I was embarassed for BK.

Meh,  he was just honest....and accurate.  But sure, you sometimes can't speak the brutal truth in those jobs.  You must be "sensitive". 

@gumby73 said:

during some down time.. i sometimes still go back just to listen to Pat Summerall & John Madden..choice of game, most times did not really matter...they were so great at working off one another's thoughts, instant reactions.. For the life of me, I have no clue how espn thought Booger McFarland or Jason Witten were better hires than hiring ...oh let's just say..Joe Thomas !!... If I could make a announcer trade? I would trade Troy Aikman for Tony Romo...Put Tony Romo with Joe Buck.. thoughts? as it stands

CBS-Jim Nance..Romo

Fox- Joe Buck..Aikman

NBC-Al Michaels..Collinsworth

ESPN-Joe Tessitore..Booger

NFL Network--Joe Buck..Aikman (but London games)

If a announcer trade was doable? who would you team up?

even trading Romo for Collinsworth may be a good change? 

Good post !.  And it lets you compare and contrast the various #1 broadcast teams in the NFL game.

Also a lot is personal preference on who you you like or dislike.

AND there are a lot of other broadcast teams both professional and college........but are any worth  $xx,xxx,xxx per year?  Apparently the networks think so.

AND does ESPN have a shot at landing Brees at $20,000,000 (+/-) per year,  stay tuned........

@tour2ma said:

Tessitore and Booger flat out suck... Joe and Troy aren't as bad, but I don't care for them much.

The rest are all good in my book, but I probably give Michaels the play-by-play edge over Nance, and Romo the color edge plus a little over Chris.

For my money Nance is still the most versatile announcer in sport.

The only thing that rubs me wrong about Jim  Nantz is he's such a shill for Bill and the Pats...

@gumby73 said:

during some down time.. i sometimes still go back just to listen to Pat Summerall & John Madden..choice of game, most times did not really matter...they were so great at working off one another's thoughts, instant reactions.. For the life of me, I have no clue how espn thought Booger McFarland or Jason Witten were better hires than hiring ...oh let's just say..Joe Thomas !!... If I could make a announcer trade? I would trade Troy Aikman for Tony Romo...Put Tony Romo with Joe Buck.. thoughts? as it stands

CBS-Jim Nance..Romo

Fox- Joe Buck..Aikman

NBC-Al Michaels..Collinsworth

ESPN-Joe Tessitore..Booger

NFL Network--Joe Buck..Aikman (but London games)

If a announcer trade was doable? who would you team up?

even trading Romo for Collinsworth may be a good change? 

Tessitore and Booger flat out suck... Joe and Troy aren't as bad, but I don't care for them much.

The rest are all good in my book, but I probably give Michaels the play-by-play edge over Nance, and Romo the color edge plus a little over Chris.

For my money Nance is still the most versatile announcer in sport.

@the-gipper said:

Bernie only ever did like local preseason broadcasts.  Just wondering if you have been able to catch his broadcasts there in  Texas Hill Country. 

Yup... NFL Network's Preseason replays use the local broadcast audio. Years ago it was a half of one team's crew and the other of the other.

Now every game is replayed at least twice so it tends to be one audio on one and one on the other. Now I record a couple of the replays hoping to snag at least one by our guys.

Both Romo and Bernie call the D out and where the QB should look first... etc.

I think Bernie might have had a shot at a color gig, if he hadn't gone overboard that one game dumping in a QB for being garbage... I forget who the hell it was... and it may have been true, but it was mean-spirited. I was embarassed for BK.

CBS-Jim Nance..Romo

Fox- Joe Buck..Aikman

NBC-Al Michaels..Collinsworth

ESPN-Joe Tessitore..Booger

NFL Network--Joe Buck..Aikman (but London games)

If a announcer trade was doable? who would you team up?

even trading Romo for Collinsworth may be a good change? 

@tour2ma said:

No... not better. Maybe the same level, but not better.

Bernie only ever did like local preseason broadcasts.  Just wondering if you have been able to catch his broadcasts there in  Texas Hill Country. 

@tour2ma said:

No... not better. Maybe the same level, but not better.

Much better , Tour... Bernie see's things before they even happen.. And He's totally on top of it..... Tony is very good... I just think Kosar is a notch or two better... But.. That said... You can't go wrong with either one of them as far as football smarts , goes...

@the-gipper said:

Bernie's insights were even better than Romo's,

No... not better. Maybe the same level, but not better.

@tour2ma said:

For my money Romo is the best analyst working today. And he adds just the right amount of irreverence and criticism.

Brees? Certainly at least match for Tony analytically speaking, but strikes me as a little too Pollyannish to speak his mind.

Maybe he is the best analyst....because they won't give Bernie a job.  Bernie's insights were even better than Romo's,  but apparently the powers that be did not like his Youngstownese accent.   (again, I am not critical of Romo's analytical capabilities....just his vocal quality).   

Brees? Certainly at least match for Tony analytically speaking, but strikes me as a little too Pollyannish to speak his mind.

@the-gipper said:

I like what he says,  from that standpoint he is very good.  I just can't listen to that scratchy voice. 

I get what ya mean.. His voice to me is actually wet and raspy.... But as far as presenting nuances of the game .. He's excellent... It tells me he's a student of the game much like Kosar..

@nickers said:

I like Romo as well.... I think he does a pretty good job...

I like what he says,  from that standpoint he is very good.  I just can't listen to that scratchy voice. 

@the-gipper said:

Romo...no loss.  Dislike him as an announcer. It seems like with every word he needs to clear his throat. 

Peyton?  Not sure why he declined.  After all, what else is he really doing?  Making commercials? 

In my opinion they need a former coach.   Ala John Madden   (but NOT John Fox...or Rex Ryan)

I liked Romo no problem but check out the top 10 players career earnings from spotrac NONE of them need the money or ESPN.....  https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/earnings/all-time

PLAYER	CAREER EARNINGS
1		Eli Manning QUARTERBACK	$252,280,004
2		Peyton Manning QUARTERBACK	$248,732,000
3		Drew Brees QUARTERBACK	$244,710,422
4		Tom Brady QUARTERBACK	$235,166,804
5		Aaron Rodgers QUARTERBACK	$233,624,529
6		Ben Roethlisberger QUARTERBACK	$232,286,864
7		Matt Ryan QUARTERBACK	$223,472,535
8		Philip Rivers QUARTERBACK	$218,917,656
9		Matthew Stafford QUARTERBACK	$210,978,969
10		Larry Fitzgerald WIDE RECEIVER	$175,062,860

@mjp28 said:

MNF has had a history of being a money losing proposition going all the way back to the later ABC days. I think ESPN who's also had money issues wants a big name or maybe get out of the Monday night slot.

Losing out on Peyton and Romo is two strikes.

Romo...no loss.  Dislike him as an announcer. It seems like with every word he needs to clear his throat. 

Peyton?  Not sure why he declined.  After all, what else is he really doing?  Making commercials? 

In my opinion they need a former coach.   Ala John Madden   (but NOT John Fox...or Rex Ryan)

@nickers said:

They have to do something because Booger McFarland is awful!!

MNF has had a history of being a money losing proposition going all the way back to the later ABC days. I think ESPN who's also had money issues wants a big name or maybe get out of the Monday night slot.

Losing out on Peyton and Romo is two strikes.