<![CDATA[Big Gay Ben relaxes with Shaq]]>Big Gay Ben relaxed with Shaq in suburban Pittsburgh

(AP) – 2 days ago

AMBRIDGE, Pa. — Big Gay Ben enjoyed a warm reception from Pittsburgh Steelers fans in his first public appearance since being named in a civil lawsuit by a woman who alleges he sexually assaulted her.

Filming the first episode of Shaquille O'Neal's reality TV show, Rapelisberger kept things lighthearted and didn't discuss the allegations.

The two-time Super Bowl champion quarterback appeared loose and playful at a suburban Pittsburgh high school field Friday night in front of an estimated 5,000 that never showed signs of turning on him after the accusations against him that came out earlier this week.

Although he was not available to the media, Rapelisberger played the part of O'Neal's tongue-in-cheek sparring partner — trashing-talking, whooping it up with the crowd, raising his fist in the air after long completions and doing fist pumps while sprinting down the field after touchdowns.

"He came out and he said, 'I want to have fun, but I want to win this thing,'" said Larry Carson, who was on Rapelisberger's team in the full-pads but two-hand-touch game and caught one of Big Gay Ben's three touchdown passes. "He said, 'I'm not losing to Shaquille O'Neal.' And I guess he was having fun. He was hopping around, looking like he was enjoying it."

It was a contrast to Rapelisberger's demeanor at a brief press conference at the Steelers' practice facility on Thursday.

On that day, Rapelisberger read a minute-long statement denying the charges. Earlier, he had canceled a scheduled press conference in which he and O'Neal were to promote the show.

In his statement, Rapelisberger said he would not discuss the matter with the media further.

Ambridge High School's Moe Rubenstein Stadium holds 7,500 and people were lined up four hours before the gates opened winding down two blocks to ensure a good seat.

Some of the fans said they drove more than two hours and were generally enthusiastic. Dozens wore No. 7 Rapelisberger Steelers jerseys and twirled Terrible Towels.

"I love him so much, and I believe my baby's innocent," said 47-year-old Bonita Thompson, who lives two blocks from the stadium.

"People try to take advantage of him. But all of Ambridge supports him. I work at a nursing home, and all the people I take care of love him and support him."

Shane Newhouse teaches at Ambridge High and is an assistant coach on the varsity football team. His 4-year-old son, Caden, wore a Rapelisberger jersey as he was propped up on his dad's shoulders near the entrance tunnel where Rapelisberger ran onto the field to thunderous applause.

"My kids love Big Gay Ben," Newhouse said. "They're all die-hard Steelers fans.

"We still support him. We believe him. It's innocent until proven guilty."

Rapelisberger was served in a civil lawsuit brought by a 31-year-old woman who worked at the casino resort he stayed at for a celebrity golf tournament in July 2008.

The woman, who did not file a criminal complaint, alleges the quarterback raped her in a hotel penthouse.

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TheJokersWILD said:

Are you talking about the same Magic team that made eighteen three point baskets in one game in that series? Trust me it wasn't just the Cavs fault, you gotta give the Magic credit because they played a hell of a series. Everybody knew we didn't match up well with the Magic going into that series, Turkgolu was lights out in that series,Alston was making clutch shots, Lewis was making parimeter shots, and Peitrus did a great job defending LeBron.Don't forget that people had the illusion that our bench was better than it really was (depth) but I knew we were in trouble. Speaking about choking, what about the year the Steelers lost in the Super Bowl when O'Donnell was at the helm?

I agree totally with you totally there. O' Donnell completely choked in that game and completely gave it away. He is the only reason the Steelers lost that game to the Cowboys in Super Bowl XXX seeing that the Steelers completely dominated and shutdown Aikman,Smith,and Irvin for 3/4 of that football game. If O' Donnell doesnt throw those horrific INT's the Steelers have 7 Super Bowl Championships as we sit here today. But the bottom line is he did throw them, he choked,and in the end the Cowboys made the plays in that game and the Steelers didnt. Believe me no other game in Steelers recent history since I have been a fan since the mid 80's gets under my skin more then that loss in that Super Bowl to the Cowboys. It was my first ever chance to see the Steelers play in the Super Bowl and it was absolutely devistating to watch believe me.

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@holmes10_ward_86 said:

Well then you better go back to the late 1980's then because that was the last time anybody actually gave 2 shits about the Browns or anybody actually talked about them as being a legit contender. Since 1992 the Steelers have made the playoffs 12 times out of 17 seasons,played in 3 Super Bowls and won 2,played in 7 AFC Championship Games,and have played host to 15 playoff games and won a total of 14 playoff games overall in that span. The Browns despite their 3 year absence from the league from 1996-1999 have only won 1 playoff game,only hosted 1 playoff game which both occured during the 1994 season,and have only made the playoffs 1 time in their 10 seasons since returning to the league in 1999 and guess who they got beat by the Steelers.

All the hell you do is piss and moan about steroids this steroids that and make excuses because your arguments in comparing the Browns to the Steelers hold no substance at all. You have a loser excuse making mentality but that's to be expected being a Cleveland sports fan. I mean even the Cavs with the best record in the league this year and Lebron James having lost only 1 home game all year long still couldnt win in the playoffs with home court advantage choking to the Orlando Magic who had no business beating the Cavs. Choking is in Cleveland's sports blood. It's a tradition. It spreads to the Indians who choked in game 7 to the Marlins in 97 and havent won amything since 1949, all the way through the Cavs who are at least respectable down to the lowly Browns who gagged in the playoffs in the late 80's 3 out of 4 years to the Broncos...

Are you talking about the same Magic team that made eighteen three point baskets in one game in that series? Trust me it wasn't just the Cavs fault, you gotta give the Magic credit because they played a hell of a series. Everybody knew we didn't match up well with the Magic going into that series, Turkgolu was lights out in that series,Alston was making clutch shots, Lewis was making parimeter shots, and Peitrus did a great job defending LeBron.Don't forget that people had the illusion that our bench was better than it really was (depth) but I knew we were in trouble. Speaking about choking, what about the year the Steelers lost in the Super Bowl when O'Donnell was at the helm?

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@furnier said:

Dude, Why are you still here? Didn't you whazz on your internet printout of your six trophys? We root for real football here, Not Steroid/Payoff produced phoniness. Why don't you go wag your skirt at some Bungholes or Flying Rat fans?

Doug

Well then you better go back to the late 1980's then because that was the last time anybody actually gave 2 shits about the Browns or anybody actually talked about them as being a legit contender. Since 1992 the Steelers have made the playoffs 12 times out of 17 seasons,played in 3 Super Bowls and won 2,played in 7 AFC Championship Games,and have played host to 15 playoff games and won a total of 14 playoff games overall in that span. The Browns despite their 3 year absence from the league from 1996-1999 have only won 1 playoff game,only hosted 1 playoff game which both occured during the 1994 season,and have only made the playoffs 1 time in their 10 seasons since returning to the league in 1999 and guess who they got beat by the Steelers.

All the hell you do is piss and moan about steroids this steroids that and make excuses because your arguments in comparing the Browns to the Steelers hold no substance at all. You have a loser excuse making mentality but that's to be expected being a Cleveland sports fan. I mean even the Cavs with the best record in the league this year and Lebron James having lost only 1 home game all year long still couldnt win in the playoffs with home court advantage choking to the Orlando Magic who had no business beating the Cavs. Choking is in Cleveland's sports blood. It's a tradition. It spreads to the Indians who choked in game 7 to the Marlins in 97 and havent won amything since 1949, all the way through the Cavs who are at least respectable down to the lowly Browns who gagged in the playoffs in the late 80's 3 out of 4 years to the Broncos...

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@brownsfan17 said:

Because this is a Browns site. Of course, we going to harrass any of the players from any of the other teams in our division and I fully anticipate that if I went to a rivals board they would be doing the same to us. Seriously, did you really think you would find us kissing Ben's ass like all of the Steelers fans do?

If this is something that truly bothers you then, perhaps, you need to stay on Steelers boards only.

I do not mind the harassing, it does not bother me at all. My point was that you cant complain when you get smacked back and try to portray this thread as a legit story for informative purposes when it is presented like that.

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@brownsfan17 said:

Arguments could be made both for or against Mangini however only time will tell who is right. I choose to believe that he is a legimitate head coach just as I am sure you chose to believe that Tomlin was going to be a legitimate head coach when he hadn't won anything yet either.

Lets face it, after Davis and Crennel most any coach would look good. I honestly think other than Shanahan Mangini was a good choice.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/89523https://brownsboard.com/post/89523Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:24:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Big Gay Ben relaxes with Shaq on Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:15:20 GMT]]>Hey Stupid, Manginis Jets beat your retarted asses back in '07. It was 1 of only like 4 wins for the Jets that year. But it dont matter just go back to your family with your circle jerks & suck & fux or what ever you hill jax do.

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Homeless10_WardOfTheState_86 said:

How is Eric Mangini considered a legitimate head coach?? What did he do in his 3 years as the Jets head coach?? How many playoff wins does he have?? I know last year his team was 8-3 last year at one point he lost 4 out of the last 5 games when the Jets were in total control of the AFC East, and would have lost all 5 had JP Losman not gift wrapped a game for the Jets in which they had no business winning. Now Im sure some of you will blame most of that on Brett Favre imploding and that might be true, but to sit there and not hold Mangini somewhat responsible for that Jets implosion at the end of the season last year would be unfair. The guy has one playoff appearance in a year where the Jets had a very weak schedule, and went out in the first round of the playoffs that year to the Patriots. He has a long long way to go in my opinion before he proves himself to be as you like to say a legitimate head coach because the guy has not won anything yet...

Dude, Why are you still here? Didn't you whazz on your internet printout of your six trophys? We root for real football here, Not Steroid/Payoff produced phoniness. Why don't you go wag your skirt at some Bungholes or Flying Rat fans?

Doug

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@holmes10_ward_86 said:

How is Eric Mangini considered a legitimate head coach?? What did he do in his 3 years as the Jets head coach?? How many playoff wins does he have?? I know last year his team was 8-3 last year at one point he lost 4 out of the last 5 games when the Jets were in total control of the AFC East, and would have lost all 5 had JP Losman not gift wrapped a game for the Jets in which they had no business winning. Now Im sure some of you will blame most of that on Brett Favre imploding and that might be true, but to sit there and not hold Mangini somewhat responsible for that Jets implosion at the end of the season last year would be unfair. The guy has one playoff appearance in a year where the Jets had a very weak schedule, and went out in the first round of the playoffs that year to the Patriots. He has a long long way to go in my opinion before he proves himself to be as you like to say a legitimate head coach because the guy has not won anything yet...

Arguments could be made both for or against Mangini however only time will tell who is right. I choose to believe that he is a legimitate head coach just as I am sure you chose to believe that Tomlin was going to be a legitimate head coach when he hadn't won anything yet either.

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@holmes10_ward_86 said:

You do have talent yes, but not enough talent yet especially at QB to consider yourselves a legitimate Super Bowl contender. How many big games and Im talking playoff caliber games have Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson played so far in their NFL career enough to know if they are for real or not?? We know what Derek Anderson does everytime he plays in a big game he folds like a long chair. Brady Quinn has yet to start against the Steelers and the Ravens the two teams ahead of the Browns in this division still so we dont know how he will react and respond when he has to go up against those two defenses. The Browns could be decent but it will all come down to whether or not their defense can stop the run and play better and they can get better consistant play out of their QB.

I just don't see how you can make that statement when the season hasn't started yet. If we played half the season and have a losing record then I might buy that especially if we have lost some division games. I bet you can make the arguement that nobody in the Lions organization should even talk about SuperBowl but that's the kinda attitude that losers have. If I was the coach of the Lions I would have posters of SuperBowl trophys plastered all over the lockeroom letting them know that if they want it bad enough that could have it and I expect them to seriously compete for it.

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@duke0476 said:

So the changing of names and editing of the story was not to be seen as smack?

If the purpose of this thread was to post the discussion of a players appearance on a show after having sexual assault charges alleged against him then why not post it as such without all of the edits?

Because this is a Browns site. Of course, we going to harrass any of the players from any of the other teams in our division and I fully anticipate that if I went to a rivals board they would be doing the same to us. Seriously, did you really think you would find us kissing Ben's ass like all of the Steelers fans do?

If this is something that truly bothers you then, perhaps, you need to stay on Steelers boards only.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/89319https://brownsboard.com/post/89319Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:20:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Big Gay Ben relaxes with Shaq on Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:17:51 GMT]]>How is Eric Mangini considered a legitimate head coach?? What did he do in his 3 years as the Jets head coach?? How many playoff wins does he have?? I know last year his team was 8-3 last year at one point he lost 4 out of the last 5 games when the Jets were in total control of the AFC East, and would have lost all 5 had JP Losman not gift wrapped a game for the Jets in which they had no business winning. Now Im sure some of you will blame most of that on Brett Favre imploding and that might be true, but to sit there and not hold Mangini somewhat responsible for that Jets implosion at the end of the season last year would be unfair. The guy has one playoff appearance in a year where the Jets had a very weak schedule, and went out in the first round of the playoffs that year to the Patriots. He has a long long way to go in my opinion before he proves himself to be as you like to say a legitimate head coach because the guy has not won anything yet...

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TheJokersWILD said:

This is all coming from a guy who said this in another thread...

What's it gonna be? First you laugh because I posted a Lombardi trophy, now we have talent.Whats wrong with having a goal of winning a Super Bowl? When the season starts everyone has the same record and everyone has a chance to compete. THAT IS WHY THEY PLAY THESE THINGS CALLED GAMES! Any team can make the playoff even the lowly Lions. Blow it out your ass Holmes10

You do have talent yes, but not enough talent yet especially at QB to consider yourselves a legitimate Super Bowl contender. How many big games and Im talking playoff caliber games have Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson played so far in their NFL career enough to know if they are for real or not?? We know what Derek Anderson does everytime he plays in a big game he folds like a long chair. Brady Quinn has yet to start against the Steelers and the Ravens the two teams ahead of the Browns in this division still so we dont know how he will react and respond when he has to go up against those two defenses. The Browns could be decent but it will all come down to whether or not their defense can stop the run and play better and they can get better consistant play out of their QB.

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@brownsfan17 said:

I should have known you wouldn't be man enough to do it.

The smack was started by Holmes and propigated by you. All I did was point out that a thread containing discussion about a rape charge was not an appropriate forum for such comments. If that hurt your feelings ... too bad.

So the changing of names and editing of the story was not to be seen as smack?

If the purpose of this thread was to post the discussion of a players appearance on a show after having sexual assault charges alleged against him then why not post it as such without all of the edits?

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@duke0476 said:

Nope, I still stand by that statement.

I admitted my mistake but to say this was not started to incite smack is still wrong and to say that holmes' comments were making light of sexual assault is also one hell of a stretch to make.

I should have known you wouldn't be man enough to do it.

The smack was started by Holmes and propigated by you. All I did was point out that a thread containing discussion about a rape charge was not an appropriate forum for such comments. If that hurt your feelings ... too bad.

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@brownsfan17 said:

Perhaps now might be a good time to apologize for calling me a moron or mentally handicapped.

Nope, I still stand by that statement.

I admitted my mistake but to say this was not started to incite smack is still wrong and to say that holmes' comments were making light of sexual assault is also one hell of a stretch to make.

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@duke0476 said:

Admittedly, I guess it could go either way. A story about his appearance on Shaq's new show, or about his first appearance since the allegations.

Perhaps now might be a good time to apologize for calling me a moron or mentally handicapped.

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@brownsfan17 said:

What was the very first sentence in this thread...

Big Gay Ben enjoyed a warm reception from Pittsburgh Steelers fans in his first public appearance since being named in a civil lawsuit by a woman who alleges he sexually assaulted her.

That has nothing to do with the assault?!? Then why does it have the words sexual and assault in it? I can't wait to hear this explanation....

Admittedly, I guess it could go either way. A story about his appearance on Shaq's new show, or about his first appearance since the allegations.

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@duke0476 said:

I apologize, I did not realize you were actually mentally handicapped.....I feel bad now.

This thread was not started as a thread about the alleged assault you moron.

Furthermore, if you think the original post in this thread does not reek of smack you truely are Retarded my challenged friend.

What was the very first sentence in this thread...

Big Gay Ben enjoyed a warm reception from Pittsburgh Steelers fans in his first public appearance since being named in a civil lawsuit by a woman who alleges he sexually assaulted her.

That has nothing to do with the assault?!? Then why does it have the words sexual and assault in it? I can't wait to hear this explanation....

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@brownsfan17 said:

I'm sorry. I forgot that I was speaking with someone of well-below-average intelligence. Being on a Browns Board, I guess I just take it for granted that the people I speak with are going to be above-average intelligence. My bad.

Let me explain this in simple terms: This is a thread about Big Gay Ben raping a woman .... A Steelers fan comes on and correlates this to the Steelers winning football games. I would love to hear you explain how smack-talk in a thread about a woman being violated isn't making light of that situation.

Perhaps, if you and Holmes had even an ounce of class, you could have added your remarks in a more appropriate thread.

Your family must be so proud.

I apologize, I did not realize you were actually mentally handicapped.....I feel bad now.

This thread was not started as a thread about the alleged assault you moron.

Furthermore, if you think the original post in this thread does not reek of smack you truely are Retarded my challenged friend.

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@hiwaygal said:

I'm quite capable of forming a rational, grammatically correct sentence, thank you very much. But then, I'm a stickler that way. Some folks don't care if they make typographical errors on a casual message board. Still, most casual observers are able to comprehend the intent of a hastily typed message. Seems you were the only one who had a problem understanding Legacy Fan.

And to correct your second point...we understand and know football much better than your typical front-runner squealer fan. We understand BOTH sides of the game...the winning and the losing. Thanks to your 'team' we also know that steroid abuse will get you a lot of notoriety.

Now you are resorting to 70's smack? Tread carefully here because I can name a few former Browns players that were roided up.

I live near Cleveland and sincerely hope the Browns do well. We need a better rival, we are getting bored with only having to worry about one team in our division (Baltimore, or the old Browns whichever you prefer) Thank you Modell for finally fielding a competitive modern era team.

Plus, it is just pitiful watching all you weak ass fans try to come up with good comebacks. Seems all the mental capacity you have is name calling, making up hilarious songs and steroid use. Good luck with that.

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@brownshirt said:

Hey duke-duke-duke-duke of stool-stool-stool, duke of stool-stool-stool, duke of stool-stool- stool, as eyeeee, walk thru this stool (pittspuke) nothing can stop, this puke, i mean duke of stool. and you , you are my girl (mommy) ............ SINCEREST apoligies to Mr.

Gene Chandler.

Please get off our board.

Wow, I dont even know what to say. The typical Browns fan intellegence is showing through here. Brilliant is all I can say.

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@holmes10_ward_86 said:

The Browns do have talent on their team I wont dispute that, but they still lack the one thing that every Super Bowl caliber playoff team needs and that's stability at the Quarterback position. The fact that Mangini is still not set on whether Derek Anderson who had an absolutely pathetic season last year or Brady Quinn is going to be the Starter this season for the Browns tells you right there that the Browns are not going to be taken seriously and are not going to be legit playoff or Super Bowl contenders until they get stability at that QB position once and for all. Yes the Browns were competing very good with the Steelers for the division back in 2007 and finished with the same exact record. But the Steelers are a much better football team all the way across the board now then they were back in 2007 when the Browns were fighting with them for the division title.

As for the Steelers yes they will get everyone's best shot this year being the defending champs and that's exactly how I want it. The Steelers schedule this season is much much easier then it was last season, and a lot of the same players that were on the Super Bowl winning team in 2005 were on the team last year as well and they will not let a Super Bowl hangover or letdown occur much like they did in 2006. Plus, Mike Tomlin is not Bill Cowher either who didnot care what happened in 2006 since he was ready to retire. Tomlin will not take things for granted and will not let his team get complacent. If you listen to him at training camp and even before in May and June he doesnt want to hear anything about repeating or the 2008 Steelers. As long as Ben can stay healthy which Ill admit is a question mark, and the defense which is almost exactly the same minus McFadden and Larry Foote which werent huge losses play like they are capable of without serious injuries, the Steelers will be right there once again come January competing for a 7th Lombardi Trophy...

This is all coming from a guy who said this in another thread...

@holmes10_ward_86 said:

Hahaha wow putting a picture of the Lombardi Trophy on the Cleveland Browns website now that's hilarious. Well here is my response to that WAKE THE xxxx UP cause it's a dream and that's the only time you will ever see the Lombardi Trophy inside Shitstains stadiums is in your xxxxing dreams...I know I know the response is going to be well the Steelers cheated for all 6 of their Trophy's and Harrison's on roids and blah blah blah blah yap yap yap yap yap yap xxxxing yap yap yap...Here is a concept for all the Browns fans why dont you focus on your team led by Mangina who is nothing but a gum chewing punk that has never accomplished anything on finding somehow someway to do something you havent done in the last 11 tries and that's beat the defending Super Bowl Champion Pittsburgh Steelers. Once you do that then maybe somebody in the NFL will take the Browns seriously and not for the complete joke they are now...

What's it gonna be? First you laugh because I posted a Lombardi trophy, now we have talent.Whats wrong with having a goal of winning a Super Bowl? When the season starts everyone has the same record and everyone has a chance to compete. THAT IS WHY THEY PLAY THESE THINGS CALLED GAMES! Any team can make the playoff even the lowly Lions. Blow it out your ass Holmes10

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@holmes10_ward_86 said:

The Browns do have talent on their team I wont dispute that, but they still lack the one thing that every Super Bowl caliber playoff team needs and that's stability at the Quarterback position. The fact that Mangini is still not set on whether Derek Anderson who had an absolutely pathetic season last year or Brady Quinn is going to be the Starter this season for the Browns tells you right there that the Browns are not going to be taken seriously and are not going to be legit playoff or Super Bowl contenders until they get stability at that QB position once and for all. Yes the Browns were competing very good with the Steelers for the division back in 2007 and finished with the same exact record. But the Steelers are a much better football team all the way across the board now then they were back in 2007 when the Browns were fighting with them for the division title.

As for the Steelers yes they will get everyone's best shot this year being the defending champs and that's exactly how I want it. The Steelers schedule this season is much much easier then it was last season, and a lot of the same players that were on the Super Bowl winning team in 2005 were on the team last year as well and they will not let a Super Bowl hangover or letdown occur much like they did in 2006. Plus, Mike Tomlin is not Bill Cowher either who didnot care what happened in 2006 since he was ready to retire. Tomlin will not take things for granted and will not let his team get complacent. If you listen to him at training camp and even before in May and June he doesnt want to hear anything about repeating or the 2008 Steelers. As long as Ben can stay healthy which Ill admit is a question mark, and the defense which is almost exactly the same minus McFadden and Larry Foote which werent huge losses play like they are capable of without serious injuries, the Steelers will be right there once again come January competing for a 7th Lombardi Trophy...

Like Brownfan 17 said, the QB competition will help Anderson and Quinn. It will push them to the limit and make them earn the job.

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@holmes10_ward_86 said:

The Browns do have talent on their team I wont dispute that, but they still lack the one thing that every Super Bowl caliber playoff team needs and that's stability at the Quarterback position. The fact that Mangini is still not set on whether Derek Anderson who had an absolutely pathetic season last year or Brady Quinn is going to be the Starter this season for the Browns tells you right there that the Browns are not going to be taken seriously and are not going to be legit playoff or Super Bowl contenders until they get stability at that QB position once and for all. Just because Mangini hasn't picked a QB yet doesn't mean that there won't be stability at the position. In fact, I believe that the opposite is true. For the first time, there will actually be a QB competition, that hasn't already been decided by the GM, so whomever wins this position will have truly earned it.

Yes the Browns were competing very good with the Steelers for the division back in 2007 and finished with the same exact record. But the Steelers are a much better football team all the way across the board now then they were back in 2007 when the Browns were fighting with them for the division title. The same could be said for the Browns. Just by having a legitimate head coach, already makes us a much better team. Just imagine what we could have done in 2007 if we had had a real coach.

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