@hoorta said:

This isn't all in the family.... Though you'd probably vote for Archie Bunker for President instead..

And whats funny was the actor who played Archie Bunker was a liberal.

@hoorta said:

This isn't all in the family.... Though you'd probably vote for Archie Bunker for President instead....  

# Never Trump- I gave the guy a year in office to try and change my mind- but it went all downhill from there....  

Ya see the problem with the MAGAs here is- it's beyond their ability to comprehend that you can be a true Republican- who thinks Trump is a petty, lying SOB who's unfit to serve as President.  

Now he's on the warpath with Twitter for daring to fact check his outright lies.  See what I mean?  Probably not.    

Well you can bet on this much. The DNC will keep the addled Joe Biden locked In The Attic when company comes over. And he wants to be president so bad he will do what he's told.

WSS

@hoorta said:

This isn't all in the family.... Though you'd probably vote for Archie Bunker for President instead....  

# Never Trump- I gave the guy a year in office to try and change my mind- but it went all downhill from there....  

Ya see the problem with the MAGAs here is- it's beyond their ability to comprehend that you can be a true Republican- who thinks Trump is a petty, lying SOB who's unfit to serve as President.  

Now he's on the warpath with Twitter for daring to fact check his outright lies.  See what I mean?  Probably not.    

Dude don't waste my time with your TDS I'll talk about anything else with you but Trump.

@vambo said:

Trump / Trump jr. 2024 2028...

Eric Trump / Trump jr 2032 2036

This isn't all in the family.... Though you'd probably vote for Archie Bunker for President instead....  

# Never Trump- I gave the guy a year in office to try and change my mind- but it went all downhill from there....  

Ya see the problem with the MAGAs here is- it's beyond their ability to comprehend that you can be a true Republican- who thinks Trump is a petty, lying SOB who's unfit to serve as President.  

Now he's on the warpath with Twitter for daring to fact check his outright lies.  See what I mean?  Probably not.    

@hoorta said:

It sure as hell  wasn't  responsible for  X thousands. And Deblasio isn't  my hero either, so stuff it. 

Pence\ Rubio 2020

Trump / Trump jr. 2024 2028...

Eric Trump / Trump jr 2032 2036

@gorka said:

No you don't know TDS guy..

It's Democrats.

How many deaths is your hero Deblasio responsible for by forcing COVID patients into nursing homes again? CNN didn't tell you that did they?

It sure as hell  wasn't  responsible for  X thousands. And Deblasio isn't  my hero either, so stuff it. 

Pence\ Rubio 2020

@hoorta said:

 I know, those New Yorkers just didn't shoot up enough lysol or drink enough bleach to keep the numbers down.  

No you don't know TDS guy..

It's Democrats.

How many deaths is your hero Deblasio responsible for by forcing COVID patients into nursing homes again? CNN didn't tell you that did they?

@hoorta said:

Steve, with my science background- does not compute. How did Tokyo come through virtually unscathed with no lockdown, yet  similar NYC had 40 times the number of cases?  

Vambo take me to it but yes. Cuomo and de Blasio have done everything the Trump haters accuse him of having done. Almost everything. They said that a travel ban was an act of War. Anyway this is from Newsweek a known Trump hater so I doubt they are sugarcoating it. Bottom line is probably just Mass Hysteria and how a lot of people love to be involved in that. Makes them feel special.

PS the Japanese are known to be a very clean bunch of people.

WSS

@hoorta said:

 I know, those New Yorkers just didn't shoot up enough lysol or drink enough bleach to keep the numbers down.  

No they were all just put into Nursing Homes with Covid-19 Patients without being separated!?

@vambo said:

Democrats.

 I know, those New Yorkers just didn't shoot up enough lysol or drink enough bleach to keep the numbers down.  

@hoorta said:

Steve, with my science background- does not compute. How did Tokyo come through virtually unscathed with no lockdown, yet  similar NYC had 40 times the number of cases?  

Democrats.

@westside-steve said:

https://www.newsweek.com/japan-ends-coronavirus-emergency-850-deaths-no-lockdown-1506336

WSS

Steve, with my science background- does not compute. How did Tokyo come through virtually unscathed with no lockdown, yet  similar NYC had 40 times the number of cases?  

https://twitter.com/NewMexicoGOP/status/1265779410633781249?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-mexico-dem-governor-violated-coronavirus-order-to-shop-jewelry-report

@hoorta said:

Fair enough Steve- but I don't totally agree with it....  Why do we have at least 3X more the number of cases than anyone else in the world?  Looking at the numbers- yeah even Sweden- If you get diagnosed with covid, and you're old- your odds of dying from it go way up- to the 4% range. I don't have any proof, but I'll hazard a guess the population in Sweden is a lot healthier than the USA, and outside of Stockholm the county is a whole lot of nothing- covid cases are concentrated in big cities, and Stockholm had their fair share.....  Though their point- maybe we should have gone about this differently, locked up us old codgers, and let the young 'uns run free- I can respect it. But it's water over the dam now, what's done is done.  That JH graph shows on a worldwide level- the pandemic is far from over. USA? The # of cases and deaths is trending down. We'll know in another week or two for sure if this national lock down was a big boo-boo.  Should we have traded off more short term deaths for faster long term herd immunity? We'll never know....  

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

https://www.newsweek.com/japan-ends-coronavirus-emergency-850-deaths-no-lockdown-1506336

WSS

@the-cysko-kid said:

Why, if you're not a leftist,  would you assume anti vaxxers to be predominantly  right-wing? 

That's an interesting position for a person who has been strenuously  objecting to their characterization, on this board, as a leftist to be taking. 

https://theconversation.com/anti-vaccination-beliefs-dont-follow-the-usual-political-polarization-81001

This wasn't a left-right characterization. At least as far as the antivaxxers are concerned. Wackiness spans all political spectrums...  

Unfortunately we will never know what the country would’ve looked like had we simply just banned gatherings of 50 or more. 
 

On the broader scope of fear mongering and using it to herd the masses. The playbook has been utilizing fear to get people in line for the better part of my life. 

@hoorta said:

Now don't falsely accuse those snowflake MAGAs. Though the antivaxx crowd is even more loony. Gates want to implant a microchip in you along with a covid vaccine.    

Why, if you're not a leftist,  would you assume anti vaxxers to be predominantly  right-wing? 

That's an interesting position for a person who has been strenuously  objecting to their characterization, on this board, as a leftist to be taking. 

https://theconversation.com/anti-vaccination-beliefs-dont-follow-the-usual-political-polarization-81001

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Here's a couple of MAGA antivaxxer women?

Now don't falsely accuse those snowflake MAGAs. Though the antivaxx crowd is even more loony. Gates want to implant a microchip in you along with a covid vaccine.    

@westside-steve said:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/05/21/how_fear_groupthink_drove_unnecessary_global_lockdowns_143253.html

RCP is usually reasonably straight.

I know it isn't ammoland or MSNBC.

WSS

Fair enough Steve- but I don't totally agree with it....  Why do we have at least 3X more the number of cases than anyone else in the world?  Looking at the numbers- yeah even Sweden- If you get diagnosed with covid, and you're old- your odds of dying from it go way up- to the 4% range. I don't have any proof, but I'll hazard a guess the population in Sweden is a lot healthier than the USA, and outside of Stockholm the county is a whole lot of nothing- covid cases are concentrated in big cities, and Stockholm had their fair share.....  Though their point- maybe we should have gone about this differently, locked up us old codgers, and let the young 'uns run free- I can respect it. But it's water over the dam now, what's done is done.  That JH graph shows on a worldwide level- the pandemic is far from over. USA? The # of cases and deaths is trending down. We'll know in another week or two for sure if this national lock down was a big boo-boo.  Should we have traded off more short term deaths for faster long term herd immunity? We'll never know....  

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Heres a couple of MAGA women?

Anxious for those vaccines are we ?

http://doctorbob.com/2020/05/22/doubts-raised-over-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-after-all-of-the-monkeys-that-took-part-in-the-trial-are-found-to-have-contracted-the-disease/

@mld-woody said:

I'm not bitching about ammoland. 

I'm pointing out a false equivalency

Two of our board Democrats and one of our new board Democrats have used MSNBC articles.

WSS