@ballpeen said:

Bottom line is I would rather have Clowney over Vernon. 

Clowney is represented by the same agent who reps Garrett.  Garrett is going to get more than Clowney, so why not try to drive up Clowneys price?   

I would.  So would all of you.  The NFL limits agents to 3% of a players yearly salary.  Well, 3% of $18,000,000 is $540,000.  Chew on that.  And that doesn't include endorsement contracts.  Agents can make 10-15% of that.  D linemen don't sell many products..  Merlin Olson sold FTD flowers for a long time.  Mean Joe sold Coke products.  Can't think of any others...Alex Karras got some national air.  It would be mostly local stuff that doesn't pay all that much if you are pitching for a local garage door company.

JJ Watt must have a good deal of endorsements (if you consider him a DLman, I do). Clowney won't boost pass rush much, but he will upgrade the rush D, and, as of now, pass D is their biggest weakness. 

@jbluhm86 said:

I'm not going to hold it against Clowney for chasing his big payday; most people would do the same in his case. But idk if many teams are willing to meet his price point.

I haven't seen him mentioned on here yet, but maybe the Browns could pick up Yannick Ngakoue from the Jags, if the trade price is right.

I was thinking Everson Griffen even The DE from MINN..... He's a tad more reliable in the health department and should not cost as much , obviously... I think he's younger too... With Vernon.. You just let him run out his contract.. If he's healthy and has a productive season... Then I can see doing one year at a time contracts on Vernon until his eventual successor comes along and you could keep him for insurance at a bargain price until he hangs up his cleats!.....

I haven't seen him mentioned on here yet, but maybe the Browns could pick up Yannick Ngakoue from the Jags, if the trade price is right.

@ballpeen said:

I would.  So would all of you.  The NFL limits agents to 3% of a players yearly salary.  Well, 3% of $18,000,000 is $540,000.  Chew on that.  And that doesn't include endorsement contracts.  Agents can make 10-15% of that.  D linemen don't sell many products..  Merlin Olson sold FTD flowers for a long time.  Mean Joe sold Coke products.  Can't think of any others...Alex Karras got some national air.  It would be mostly local stuff that doesn't pay all that much if you are pitching for a local garage door company.

The Watt brothers are doing Subway commercials. 

@d-bone said:

Are they really still perusing a dude that doesn't want to be a Brown, but are hoping that if they throw enough money at him he will suddenly love the whole Browns organization, and city?

What could possibly go wrong? 

Nothing would go wrong, Debbie Downer

Sincerely, 

Dwayne Bowe

What could possibly go wrong? 

Clowney is represented by the same agent who reps Garrett.  Garrett is going to get more than Clowney, so why not try to drive up Clowneys price?   

I would.  So would all of you.  The NFL limits agents to 3% of a players yearly salary.  Well, 3% of $18,000,000 is $540,000.  Chew on that.  And that doesn't include endorsement contracts.  Agents can make 10-15% of that.  D linemen don't sell many products..  Merlin Olson sold FTD flowers for a long time.  Mean Joe sold Coke products.  Can't think of any others...Alex Karras got some national air.  It would be mostly local stuff that doesn't pay all that much if you are pitching for a local garage door company.

@sdbacker80 said:

I hope you mean 18M per year for 3 years not 6 per year.  

Yeah right. 18 m per year 

The Browns have to commit to Vernon the week before the season starts, assuming they don't have anyone else. If they really want Clowney (and given their offer they do), then Clowney and his agent could be better served waiting until 5 minutes to midnight to see if the Browns up their offer.

It's not really a risk because no one else is offering Clowney anything close to what the Browns are, so why not wait and see if the Browns panic? He has nothing to lose until a team puts a competing offer on the table. Unless the Browns pull back their offer, which would be unlikely.

But the Browns could also reduce their offer at that time, and put Clowney in a corner to either take it or wait the season out. That's the risk he is taking, if this is his strategy. But again, I don't know how likely it is that the Browns would do that. 

@the-gipper said:

Well....if he does not take a 3 year deal at 18 mill....Then he deserves to have the entire thesaurus roster for synonyms for stupid thrown at him. 

I hope you mean 18M per year for 3 years not 6 per year.  

@darren15 said:

Schefter says we are offering the most and he turned us down ....fuck him

That early report was low ball stuff.... around $12mm in a "prove it" deal.

Now reportedly we're offering $18... and multi-year.

Another new report from Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk has the Browns allegedly offering $18 million dollars. Which is $3 million more than the Seattle Seahawks, who apparently offered Clowney $15 million but for only one year. Clowney is looking for more than a one-year deal, yet if rumors are to be true then he’s also looking for more than the best deal.

The Browns allegedly offered Clowney a multi-year deal, and if the $18 million is to believe then that’s easily the best deal that Clowney has been received Clowney came down from his original asking price of $20 million, and it was rumored he came down even further past the $18 million mark.

https://factoryofsadness.co/2020/06/08/cleveland-browns-rumor-jadeveon-clowney-18/

@nickers said:

Hell no.. He's using the Browns as a bargaining chip.. I honestly believe he will settle for a prove it deal in seattle..

If he can get the money he's looking for, good for him. He's in the prime of his career so this is the time he should be maximizing his value 

@nickers said:

Hell no.. He's using the Browns as a bargaining chip.. I honestly believe he will settle for a prove it deal in seattle..

Ahhh yes the off-season games that go on in every sport.

@mjp28 said:

He may be using the BROWNS as a bargaining tool with other teams...... believe it or not those things do go on in the business world.  

Clowney + Garrett sounds like it might be a nice combo but will it happen ?

Hell no.. He's using the Browns as a bargaining chip.. I honestly believe he will settle for a prove it deal in seattle..

I think it is really just as simple as that. 

@nickers said:

I honestly think Clowney does NOT want to be here.. I think he's just stringing us along..

He may be using the BROWNS as a bargaining tool with other teams...... believe it or not those things do go on in the business world.  

Clowney + Garrett sounds like it might be a nice combo but will it happen ?

@icecube said:

Harper had mad stats before becoming a free agent, Clowney? Not so much. How much does he think a 3-sack, most-recent season should compensate him?

Harper had two fantastic seasons, and a lot of "better than average" seasons. Point is, a lot was expected from both, and Bryce Harper isn't Mike Trout, and Clowney isn't Myles Garrett. 

@warriorsrpussies said:

They already broke off talks with him twice and were offering 10-11 million a season. WTF is he thinking?

He is thinking, likely,  that he wants  15 million over 3-4 seasons, which no one wants to come close to giving him.