@canton-dawg said:

Mr Brooks was out on parole (thanks to the pandemic) for beating his children, which shows he’s capable of being violent.

He was about to be booked on his 2nd DUI when he obviously went berserk.

Once he hit a peace officer, he knew his ass was going back to the penitentiary.

You’re right, what he did shouldn’t carry the death penalty.

However, there’s cause and effect and unfortunately Brooks was the cause.

Of course the liberal media failed to mention Brooks was far less than a saint.... 

@hoorta said:

If you didn't notice, in my original response to Steve I plainly said resisting arrest is always a bad idea.  Yes, the guy was wrong on all accounts. But that doesn't justify said cop from shooting him in the back while he's trying to get away. He could have let him run and called for backup.

If you don't think Former Officer Rolfe isn't going to get charged with at least involuntary manslaughter, guess again.... BTW, there were numerous complaints about excessive force on the guy already.  Trying for another gold star night shift DUI bust that cost him his job.

Mr Brooks was out on parole (thanks to the pandemic) for beating his children, which shows he’s capable of being violent.

He was about to be booked on his 2nd DUI when he obviously went berserk.

Once he hit a peace officer, he knew his ass was going back to the penitentiary.

You’re right, what he did shouldn’t carry the death penalty.

However, there’s cause and effect and unfortunately Brooks was the cause.

@canton-dawg said:

So in your world it’s ok to resist arrest, punch a cop, and take their taser?

Moral of the story, if you comply with the police you don’t get shot.

If you didn't notice, in my original response to Steve I plainly said resisting arrest is always a bad idea.  Yes, the guy was wrong on all accounts. But that doesn't justify said cop from shooting him in the back while he's trying to get away. He could have let him run and called for backup.

If you don't think Former Officer Rolfe isn't going to get charged with at least involuntary manslaughter, guess again.... BTW, there were numerous complaints about excessive force on the guy already.  Trying for another gold star night shift DUI bust that cost him his job.

@hoorta said:

That's going to be his line of defense Steve.....  

Just a bad scene 'Peen. All this did was throw more gas on the fire....  Drunk people do stupid things....  Oh- it came out Mr. DUI night shift super cop was looking for another gold star busting the guy.... 

Shit- and he might have gotten hit by an asteroid too Cal.  The fact is- he shot a guy in the back who was running away from him at the time.... Self defense doesn't fly Mr. CCW.  And as was pointed out- the cops could have tased him in the struggle- or even shot him. So there. I'll tell you this- and I don't need any f**king crystal ball- if the cop doesn't get charged, there's going to be a lot more than a Wendy's going up in flames. I have Atlanta's Mayor & (Former) Chief of Police on my side- all you got is BS.   

So in your world it’s ok to resist arrest, punch a cop, and take their taser?

Moral of the story, if you comply with the police you don’t get shot.

@westside-steve said:

I'm shocked. Let's see the district attorney is black and he's up against a pretty rough election struggle. Too lazy to look it up but I bet it's substantial, the percentage of African Americans in Atlanta Georgia...

Now do you suppose it's in his best interest defined as much fault as he possibly can with de po-lice?

Yes I know you and Joe Biden thjnk the officer should wait until he was hit by the stun gun and either beaten to death or his service revolver taken away from him.

WSS

That's going to be his line of defense Steve.....  

@ballpeen said:

I agree Larry, you don't shoot to wound. 

When you make the choice to pull the gun and pull the trigger, you have to go under the assumption that is your one chance.  If you don't send it home, you might be the one headed to the grave.

I don't think any cop heads out on the top of the shift thinking s/he is going to kill somebody, but I would bet they head out determined they aren't going to be killed.  Your wife, husband, kids want to see you alive and well tomorrow.  Not in a coffin.   Being a cop is a hard job.

Nobody really likes you, until they really need you.

Just a bad scene 'Peen. All this did was throw more gas on the fire....  Drunk people do stupid things....  Oh- it came out Mr. DUI night shift super cop was looking for another gold star busting the guy.... 

@calfoxwc said:

yep ! I suppose Hoorta would wait til the taser hit him in the eye and killed him before deciding to shoot, oops too late.

Shit- and he might have gotten hit by an asteroid too Cal.  The fact is- he shot a guy in the back who was running away from him at the time.... Self defense doesn't fly Mr. CCW.  And as was pointed out- the cops could have tased him in the struggle- or even shot him. So there. I'll tell you this- and I don't need any f**king crystal ball- if the cop doesn't get charged, there's going to be a lot more than a Wendy's going up in flames. I have Atlanta's Mayor & (Former) Chief of Police on my side- all you got is BS.   

@westside-steve said:

I'm shocked. Let's see the district attorney is black and he's up against a pretty rough election struggle. Too lazy to look it up but I bet it's substantial, the percentage of African Americans in Atlanta Georgia...

Now do you suppose it's in his best interest defined as much fault as he possibly can with de po-lice?

Yes I know you and Joe Biden thjnk the officer should wait until he was hit by the stun gun and either beaten to death or his service revolver taken away from him.

WSS

yep ! I suppose Hoorta would wait til the taser hit him in the eye and killed him before deciding to shoot, oops too late.

@canton-dawg said:

I bought a nice .38 Special (Colt) revolver from a Canton Detective.

I sure as hell hope he didn’t get from the evidence room.

I have one in stainless steel myself. I carry it a couple times a week.

@westside-steve said:

Hey I just posted my Mia culpa before you posted this. Apparently Dallas and New York at least retired them 6 months ago. Oh well. 

WSS

I seen that just after I posted...Gotta love Dirty Harry's Revolver.lol

I sure as hell hope he didn’t get from the evidence room.

@vambo said:

Maybe he's thinking most cops don't use revolvers anymore.

Hey I just posted my Mia culpa before you posted this. Apparently Dallas and New York at least retired them 6 months ago. Oh well. 

WSS

@westside-steve said:

I'm shocked. Let's see the district attorney is black and he's up against a pretty rough election struggle. Too lazy to look it up but I bet it's substantial, the percentage of African Americans in Atlanta Georgia...

Now do you suppose it's in his best interest defined as much fault as he possibly can with de po-lice?

Yes I know you and Joe Biden thjnk the officer should wait until he was hit by the stun gun and either beaten to death or his service revolver taken away from him.

WSS

Maybe he's thinking most cops don't use revolvers anymore.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

I stand corrected.

????

WSS

@westside-steve said:

I'm shocked. Let's see the district attorney is black and he's up against a pretty rough election struggle. Too lazy to look it up but I bet it's substantial, the percentage of African Americans in Atlanta Georgia...

Now do you suppose it's in his best interest defined as much fault as he possibly can with de po-lice?

Yes I know you and Joe Biden thjnk the officer should wait until he was hit by the stun gun and either beaten to death or his service revolver taken away from him.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

 bud I think you've been watching too many cowboy movies. Police are trained to make it count if they draw their weapon and Fire. Its smething of a fantasy that shoot the guy in the knee or shoot the gun out of his hand etc etc. Here's a piece about the taser that shoots wires from a distance. Probably because the Liberals don't want the police to use any kind of weapon against criminals this article calls it less-lethal not non-lethal.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2018/05/23/police-tasers-how-do-they-work-what-risks/636533002/

The officers were absolutely Justified.

WSS

I didn't edit this. Where did I say revolver? Not in this post.

WSS

@comeonman said:

Surely you can take a joke better than that

Just didn't get it. My bad.

Add don't... Never mind.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

Exactly what in my statement made you think that? Larry was saying the cop should have shot to wound the guy which is ridiculous;  they don't do that. So I was being facetious about shooting the gun out of his hand. Follow?

WSS

Surely you can take a joke better than that

@westside-steve said:

Exactly what in my statement made you think that? Larry was saying the cop should have shot to wound the guy which is ridiculous;  they don't do that. So I was being facetious about shooting the gun out of his hand. Follow?

WSS

You said 'revolver'.

@comeonman said:

YOU might be watching too many westerns if you think we still carry six shooters ?

Exactly what in my statement made you think that? Larry was saying the cop should have shot to wound the guy which is ridiculous;  they don't do that. So I was being facetious about shooting the gun out of his hand. Follow?

WSS

@hoorta said:

Resisting arrest is never a good idea, but the guy told them take my keys, I'll walk to my sister's house. Steve, I do recall police are trained when they draw their gun shoot to kill.  As my Dad told me- "when you pull the trigger, you can never call that bullet back." That cop is going to regret doing so for the rest of his life.... 

Yup Cal, so justified- Officer Rolfe was immediately fired, and Atlanta's Chief of Police quit. Coroner report- homicide.  I don't see how shooting a guy in the back qualifies as "self defense". You let him run and call for backup. Aw, he stole my taser, and he might use it....  

Here's what the Atlanta DA said.....  Howard, the district attorney, said the possible charges could include murder, felony murder or involuntary manslaughter.

"Specifically, (the question is if) Officer Rolfe, whether or not he felt that Mr. Brooks, at the time, presented imminent harm of death or some serious physical injury. Or the alternative is whether or not he fired the shot simply to capture him or some other reason," Howard said. "If that shot was fired for some reason other than to save that officer's life or to prevent injury to him or others, then that shooting is not justified under the law."

I agree Larry, you don't shoot to wound. 

When you make the choice to pull the gun and pull the trigger, you have to go under the assumption that is your one chance.  If you don't send it home, you might be the one headed to the grave.

I don't think any cop heads out on the top of the shift thinking s/he is going to kill somebody, but I would bet they head out determined they aren't going to be killed.  Your wife, husband, kids want to see you alive and well tomorrow.  Not in a coffin.   Being a cop is a hard job.

Nobody really likes you, until they really need you.

@westside-steve said:

I'm shocked. Let's see the district attorney is black and he's up against a pretty rough election struggle. Too lazy to look it up but I bet it's substantial, the percentage of African Americans in Atlanta Georgia...

Now do you suppose it's in his best interest defined as much fault as he possibly can with de po-lice?

Yes I know you and Joe Biden thjnk the officer should wait until he was hit by the stun gun and either beaten to death or his service revolver taken away from him.

WSS

YOU might be watching too many westerns if you think we still carry six shooters ?

The Supreme Court has noted several times that a court must put themselves in the shoes of officers in the heat of the moment when these UOF are being reviewed. 
 

Floyd did not look like he was resisting at all when Chauvin had his knee in his neck. Doesn’t matter what happened before hand. 
 

In Atlanta, it was an active fight with the man who had just taken a weapon from a cop and pointed at him. 
 

Two totally different circumstances, but it’s almost as if they are being looked at the same. 
 

Say what you want about shooting someone an armed man running away from you, even if they are armed. Those cops and their attorneys will have to justify that. Just please don’t think of this the same as Floyd. 
 

Don’t resist arrest. Don’t take a weapon off a LEO’s belt. Don’t put all the blame on the cops and say what they could have done. What could the suspect have done? Or better yet, what shouldn’t he have done?