@icecube said:

It dropped to 75 once rain hit. ?

Still 99 here 

@the-gipper said:

??

It dropped to 75 once rain hit. ?

@icecube said:

Only 83 in FL. ?

??

@the-gipper said:

Speaking of Menzel now I am here in San Antonio as we speak and of course Johnny was from Kerrville and Baker from Austin which are nearby here. And in case you wanna know yes it’s 101 and 102°

Only 83 in FL. ?

@dutch-oven said:

I love the fact that you still think I have any interest conversing with you.

I'm guessing there's a few ladies out there who have a restraining order or twelve with your name on it.  

I got to say, people nailed you to a T. And I wouldn't want to converse with someone who pumped the points of steel-towed boots into my eye sockets and followed up with a curb stomp either. 

@icecube said:

Didn't you liked the draft pick? 

I love the fact that you still think I have any interest conversing with you.

I'm guessing there's a few ladies out there who have a restraining order or twelve with your name on it.  

@dutch-oven said:

Billy Manziel's father was quoted, BEFORE THE DRAFT, that his son "drank to relieve the stress of being Johnny Football." The red flags on this kid were all over the place.  

He is the biggest example of style over substance I've ever seen. You are dead on about the Haslams wanting the glitz surrounding him.  

Didn't you liked the draft pick? 

@dutch-oven said:

Billy Manziel's father was quoted, BEFORE THE DRAFT, that his son "drank to relieve the stress of being Johnny Football." The red flags on this kid were all over the place.  

He is the biggest example of style over substance I've ever seen. You are dead on about the Haslams wanting the glitz surrounding him.  

Most every problem with this team is Mr. Jimmy's fault. 

@poeticg said:

Should have drafted Derek Carr...

Derek Carr is underwhelming so far.. But yeah.. Given the choice...

@poeticg said:

Should have drafted Derek Carr...

Would have been infinitely a better pick than Manziel. Carr isn't an elite QB, but he hasn't exactly been playing on a great team either. 

You can ask anyone who loves the game of football, a true passion that is so very evident to all (and the microcosm of life you find within it...)      will they ever be "happy" to be done with football?   The answer will always, 10 out of 10 times, be a resounding 'NO'.      No, I'll never be happy to be done with football.  Which is why so many players go on to roles in coaching or developing future players.

You take that small hole in your heart that now exists, the restlessness within your soul, and you translate that energy into conveying your love for this game to the kids coming up behind us.   And in a way, you live your best days all over again vicariously through watching them develop their own love of this game and those they play with and against.   

I've always believed football to be the perfect vehicle to deliver a message to humanity, and LT said it quite well in his HOF induction speech, but to phrase my own words -   It's a game of beautiful duality where you can find men with different backgrounds, futures, faiths, creeds, ideologies & skin colors, who set aside all those differences in pursuit of a common goal to find fleeting moments of glory achieved only through shared sacrifice of blood, sweat and even occasionally some tears.

Football should be grateful someone like Johnny Manziel is done with it, IMHO.      Frauds never last.

Tour nailed it - fuck him. 

@mjp28 said:

Let's have a JFF quitting football party !    (I'll bet he would show up.)

I bet Mike Pettine would be there as well.

@dutch-oven said:

Billy Manziel's father was quoted, BEFORE THE DRAFT, that his son "drank to relieve the stress of being Johnny Football." The red flags on this kid were all over the place.  

He is the biggest example of style over substance I've ever seen. You are dead on about the Haslams wanting the glitz surrounding him.  

Good points & we have to admit, he DID provide a "spark" of sorts in Brownstown which was needed then. Of course, the red flags smothered that "spark" in short order. Somehow we survived & we're far better off that he's gone.........Lesson learned.

Mike

@orion said:

Well, we needed a QB...as per usual.  You trusted that they did their homework on him.  And they DID do homework on him.  And it all came up negative.  Joe Banner wonders to this day what happened to change the opinion on drafting him.  -  Personally, I think our marketing man owner wanted JFF's glitz.  And all of the trappings.  

Billy Manziel's father was quoted, BEFORE THE DRAFT, that his son "drank to relieve the stress of being Johnny Football." The red flags on this kid were all over the place.  

He is the biggest example of style over substance I've ever seen. You are dead on about the Haslams wanting the glitz surrounding him.  

@canton-mike said:

FOOTBALL'S happy Manziel's done! (I'm happy too & I"M one of the idiots who cheered us drafting him! )

Mike

A lot of us were duped on that one....

@canton-mike said:

(I'm happy too & I"M one of the idiots who cheered us drafting him! )

Well, we needed a QB...as per usual.  You trusted that they did their homework on him.  And they DID do homework on him.  And it all came up negative.  Joe Banner wonders to this day what happened to change the opinion on drafting him.  -  Personally, I think our marketing man owner wanted JFF's glitz.  And all of the trappings.  

Mike

@canton-dawg said:

JFF isn’t nearly as happy as I am that he’s done with football.

Let's have a JFF quitting football party !    (I'll bet he would show up.)

@nickers said:

I wish him well.. But it's obvious his heart wasn't in it... He cared more about partying.... I mean.. its ok to party... Just don't make a life out of it...

One of the big risks in taking a very young inexperienced player at the most important spot in team sports NFL starting quarterback.

And character does matter.