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]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/57305/cleveland-indians-looking-into-changing-nameRSS for NodeFri, 02 Oct 2026 07:50:21 GMTSat, 04 Jul 2020 01:14:27 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Cleveland Indians Looking Into Changing Name on Thu, 09 Jul 2020 01:30:34 GMT]]> I found this to be quite entertaining concerning team renaming. ?
 
 
"This e-mail was sent to Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune after an article he published concerning a name change for the Washington Redskins: 
 
Dear Mr. Page: 
I agree with our Native American population. I am highly jilted by the racially charged name of the Washington Redskins.  One might argue that to name a professional football team after Native Americans would exalt them as fine warriors, but nay, nay. We must be careful not to offend, and in the spirit of political correctness and courtesy, we must move forward. 
Let's ditch the Kansas City Chiefs, the Atlanta Braves and the Cleveland Indians. If your shorts are in a wad because of the reference the name Redskins makes to skin color, then we need to get rid of the Cleveland Browns. 
 
The Carolina Panthers obviously were named to keep the memory of militant Blacks from the 60's alive. Gone. It's offensive to us white folk. 
The New York Yankees offend the Southern population. Do you see a team named for the Confederacy? No! There is no room for any reference to that tragic war that cost this country so many young men's lives. I am also offended by the blatant references to the Catholic religion among our sports team names. Totally inappropriate to have the New Orleans Saints, the Los Angeles Angels or the San Diego Padres. 
 
Then there are the team names that glorify criminals who raped and pillaged. We are talking about the horrible Oakland Raiders, the Minnesota Vikings, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Pittsburgh Pirates! 
 
Now, let us address those teams that clearly send the wrong message to our children. The San Diego Chargers promote irresponsible fighting or even spending habits. Wrong message to our children. 
The New York Giants and the San Francisco Giants promote obesity, a growing childhood epidemic. Wrong message to our children. The Cincinnati Reds promote downers/barbiturates. Wrong message to our children. 
The Milwaukee Brewers. Well that goes without saying. Wrong message to our children. 
So, there you go. We need to support any legislation that comes out to rectify this travesty, because the government will likely become involved with this issue, as they should. Just the kind of thing the do-nothing Congress loves. 
As a die-hard Oregon State fan, my wife and I, with all of this in mind, suggest it might also make some sense to change the name of the Oregon State women's athletic teams to something other than "the Beavers" (especially when they play Southern California). Do we really want the Trojans sticking it to the Beavers? 
I always love your articles and I generally agree with them. As for the Redskins name, I would suggest they change the name to the "Foreskins" to better represent their community, paying tribute to the dick heads in Washington DC."
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@the-gipper said:

What do you consider rock? You know just Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly and little Richard and Bill Haley and the comments and Elvis

Sorry Gip...

1) It's Bill Haley & the Comets

2) Elvis did mostly ballads...Chuck Berry is TRULY the King of Rock & Roll!! (my opinion)

Mike

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@nickers said:

I was thinking.. 

First time for every thing, I guess. 

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@nickers said:

I was thinking.. The Cleveland Cow Tows

How Now Brown Cows

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/947001https://brownsboard.com/post/947001Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:39:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Cleveland Indians Looking Into Changing Name on Wed, 08 Jul 2020 18:34:49 GMT]]> I was thinking.. The Cleveland Cow Tows

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@bob806 said:

It used to.

Now, its Queen, Steve Miller Band, and Guns & Roses every hour all day long on the radio.

What do you consider rock? You know just Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly and little Richard and Bill Haley and the comments and Elvis

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@bob806 said:

It used to.

Now, its Queen, Steve Miller Band, and Guns & Roses every hour all day long on the radio.

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@the-gipper said:

Cleveland Rocks

It used to.

Now, its Queen, Steve Miller Band, and Guns & Roses every hour all day long on the radio.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/946949https://brownsboard.com/post/946949Wed, 08 Jul 2020 11:18:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Cleveland Indians Looking Into Changing Name on Wed, 08 Jul 2020 02:08:22 GMT]]> Lean into it -- the Cleveland Serpent Mounds? Never mind the fact that the namesake is located just 60 miles east of Cincinnati.

"Shane Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche, climbing the serpent"

[Note to the editorial staff: Yes, an Indians pitcher does share last names with the Canadian singer.  You may now turn off the autocorrect!]

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/946899https://brownsboard.com/post/946899Wed, 08 Jul 2020 02:08:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Cleveland Indians Looking Into Changing Name on Tue, 07 Jul 2020 14:37:49 GMT]]> Cleveland Rocks

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@canton-mike said:

In these times, I am convinced the name will change to one that will NOT relate to Native Americans.

How about a name that is inanimate? Maybe "The Cleveland North Coasters" (oops..that may offend Cedar Point LOL). Maybe just the "North Coast", nickname "Coasters".

Mike

Cleveland Storms...no that's racist.... Cleveland White Caps, oops, that's racist. Cleveland Buckeyes, no that is racist, too. A buckeye is dark brown on the outside but white on the inside.

crap.

Okay, here's an idea - the Cleveland Ones, starting with them winning the superbowl this coming season. Then the team they beat in the superbowl, maybe Kansas City - name them the Kansas City Twos. In order that they end up in the draft, all the way down to "cincinnatti 32's" and "pittsburg 31's" ........

none of those numbers are racist, so there ya go.

It doesn't work so well for jerseys, every year? the name would change........

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/946819https://brownsboard.com/post/946819Tue, 07 Jul 2020 11:36:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Cleveland Indians Looking Into Changing Name on Tue, 07 Jul 2020 11:08:59 GMT]]> In these times, I am convinced the name will change to one that will NOT relate to Native Americans.

How about a name that is inanimate? Maybe "The Cleveland North Coasters" (oops..that may offend Cedar Point LOL). Maybe just the "North Coast", nickname "Coasters".

Mike

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@dutch-oven said:

I really think you are wrong about the Joe Louis being the inspiration for the team name "Browns", but you could very well be right about this.

There's a strong argument to be made that the Sockalexis was the inspiration for the name "Indians" story is a bit of revisionist history. The story I tend to believe is a far less romantic one, that the Cleveland Naps needed a new nickname after they traded/released Napoleon Lajoie, and they chose "Indians" coming off the heels of the 1914 "Miracle Braves" World Series title, with the hope that karma would bless them too. It sounds silly, but teams back then picked names for odd reasons at times. Sports teams didn't have ten-person thinktanks deciding marketing issues. Plus, Sockalexis barely played for Cleveland nearly 20 years before. That would be like the Indians renaming the team in 2004 the "Bernazards" after mid-80s secondbaseman Tony Bernazard. 

Right. Joe Louis was not really the inspiration for the team name but he was the straw man to hide PBs vanity 

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/946794https://brownsboard.com/post/946794Tue, 07 Jul 2020 02:00:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Cleveland Indians Looking Into Changing Name on Tue, 07 Jul 2020 01:49:26 GMT]]> Whatever. Cleveland is on the lake - Cleveland Walleyes Cleveland Fighting Fish.

Cleveland Shipwrecks.

wait, that last one is terrible. never mind.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/946791https://brownsboard.com/post/946791Tue, 07 Jul 2020 01:49:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Cleveland Indians Looking Into Changing Name on Mon, 06 Jul 2020 21:48:02 GMT]]> I got friends who refuse to concede there will be a name change, some even think Chief Wahoo isn't going anywhere. Yes he is. They can't make you remove him from your basement, but no way will you find the Chief anywhere near the field. 

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@browns23 said:

Would renaming the Cleveland Indians to the Cleveland Tribe be an option? They are already called the Tribe as a nickname quite often.

Not entirely sure if this would be considered less offensive. At a minimum, it sounds better than Indians. 

I highly doubt the Indians are going to be named anything even in the same stratosphere of being even remotely Native American-themed.

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@the-gipper said:

LouisMaybe or that’s a story that came up with retroactively to justify the name. Like with the Browns. They now want to make sure that you know that it’s named after Paul Brown not after Joe and the brown black person bomberLouis

I really think you are wrong about the Joe Louis being the inspiration for the team name "Browns", but you could very well be right about this.

There's a strong argument to be made that the Sockalexis was the inspiration for the name "Indians" story is a bit of revisionist history. The story I tend to believe is a far less romantic one, that the Cleveland Naps needed a new nickname after they traded/released Napoleon Lajoie, and they chose "Indians" coming off the heels of the 1914 "Miracle Braves" World Series title, with the hope that karma would bless them too. It sounds silly, but teams back then picked names for odd reasons at times. Sports teams didn't have ten-person thinktanks deciding marketing issues. Plus, Sockalexis barely played for Cleveland nearly 20 years before. That would be like the Indians renaming the team in 2004 the "Bernazards" after mid-80s secondbaseman Tony Bernazard. 

https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/mlb/indians/how-did-clevelands-baseball-team-end-up-with-the-name-indians-its-more-complicated-than-you-think/95-ccb53501-3e6c-4aa7-9b05-a08447e1b0ec?fbclid=IwAR3s3MFk6esJzAD5nR-MP3U7Jtk_ZKeWjyD723Cc_-WKW76glF3KtRip40s

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@unsympathetic said:

I'll go with one of the Browns historical works - Henkel's "Cleveland Browns History." Not wikipedia - too easy to edit.

Read the entire thing - Joe Louis has nothing to do with the name of the Browns.

OK well that’s bullshit because he did have something to do with the name of the Browns. He was Paul Brown’s excuse for claiming that they were not named after him. And while yes it’s true that he later recanted and said that the team was named after him that occurred like 35 years later after He founded the Bengals

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@mld-woody said:

Think on the bright side here guys:

- Baseball fans skew older. A lot of baseball fans are boomers. Etc

- Older people, boomers, etc. are more likely to be conservative 

- Conservatives are more likely to be outraged by this name change, leading to them boycotting the team/sport

- If older people are choosing not to watch baseball, that's a huge chunk of their fanbase

- If a huge chunk of the fanbase isn't watching, baseball will suffer financially

- If baseball suffers financially, it might go away!

No more baseball!

I guess I'm not surprised. People like that are just social vandals in the first place so... I'm not positive why some people just want to fuck with the traditions of others just out of spite but I guess they exist.

I'm not a huge baseball fan but I do enjoy the tradition and the stories and a historical Saga. And football does seem ugly and graceless by comparison but so does the world.

But just in case the people leading the charge are serious I'll be glad to chip in a few bucks for Two Men and a Truck to come move their shit off Indian Land. You're welcome.

WSS

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/946760https://brownsboard.com/post/946760Mon, 06 Jul 2020 20:38:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Cleveland Indians Looking Into Changing Name on Mon, 06 Jul 2020 19:06:52 GMT]]> I'll go with one of the Browns historical works - Henkel's "Cleveland Browns History." Not wikipedia - too easy to edit.

Read the entire thing - Joe Louis has nothing to do with the name of the Browns.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/946747https://brownsboard.com/post/946747Mon, 06 Jul 2020 19:06:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Cleveland Indians Looking Into Changing Name on Mon, 06 Jul 2020 17:52:34 GMT]]> Would renaming the Cleveland Indians to the Cleveland Tribe be an option? They are already called the Tribe as a nickname quite often.

Not entirely sure if this would be considered less offensive. At a minimum, it sounds better than Indians. 

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@brownsfan4evr said:

He's Native American, first one to ever play professional baseball. He PLAYED FOR CLEVELAND.  They named the Indians after him, to honor his legacy. 

Sorry, that doesn't count......not exciting enough for a good fight to get rid of a 100 year old beloved team symbol.

GO TRIBE !  We love ya' !

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@brownsfan4evr said:

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He's Native American, first one to ever play professional baseball. He PLAYED FOR CLEVELAND.  They named the Indians after him, to honor his legacy. 

LouisMaybe or that’s a story that came up with retroactively to justify the name. Like with the Browns. They now want to make sure that you know that it’s named after Paul Brown not after Joe and the brown black person bomberLouis

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He's Native American, first one to ever play professional baseball. He PLAYED FOR CLEVELAND.  They named the Indians after him, to honor his legacy. 

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