@browns149 said:

I always thought Randall Cunningham was over looked. The guy had 30,000 yards passing. Way more Td’s than int’s. Not too mention all the rushing yards and Td’s

I think he gets overlooked because he and the Eagles weren't successful in the playoffs. A lot was expected of those Buddy Ryan teams, but they only went 2-5 in the playoffs with Cunningham. 

@mjp28 said:

Trent Dilfer's name (among the others mentioned) pops up a lot when they talk about a mediocre quarterback who was just good enough to manage an offence on a good team generally with a great defense.  "Here's the ball don't fuck it up."

Generally it is the franchise type quarterback who leads a good team to the super bowl and wins it.

Yes, ergo the question. 

@the-gipper said:

I think the candidates for  A...QB with the worst career to win a SB  has to include these candidates:   Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien, Nick Foles, Jeff Hostetler, Brad Johnson.

Not that these were really bad QBs,  just that they did not have the illustrious total career as most other SB winning QBs. 

Trent Dilfer's name (among the others mentioned) pops up a lot when they talk about a mediocre quarterback who was just good enough to manage an offence on a good team generally with a great defense.  "Here's the ball don't fuck it up."

Generally it is the franchise type quarterback who leads a good team to the super bowl and wins it.

Not that these were really bad QBs,  just that they did not have the illustrious total career as most other SB winning QBs. 

Who was the WORST QB to WIN a Super Bowl.

Take this two ways:   A. The player who had the worst career but won one nevertheless    B.  The QB who had the worst game, but their team won nevertheless

My candidate for B:  Ben R. in the 2005 game. He sucked swamp water, but the team won nevertheless...because of defense and help from the Zebras.

Have to think about A. 

Heck, I feel a double whammy.  I live 100 miles from Atlanta.  My youngest son and I watched Braves games every night for years.  With the Braves I go back to the days of Dale Murphy, Bob Horner, Phil Niekro. Went to 5-6 games a year.  Maddox, Glavin, Schmoltz, and some other guys who were pretty good....name a better pitching staff.  That is 3 HOF pitchers.  I watched them lose to the Twins and Bluejays in the WS.  Then they beat the Indians in the WS.  

I couldn't even enjoy that.  Maybe I am jinxed?

@ballpeen said:

I feel for Bills fans.  You go to the SB four years in a row and don't get at least one of them...ouch.

It's kind of like us with the Indians teams of 1995-2001. Six division titles in seven years, two A.L. pennants but could never win a World Series despite all that talent. 

@icecube said:

It's clearly Marino. 

And then Fouts, Moon and Tark. 

I think Kelly is a bit overrated. You get there 4 times and never close the door even once? They had no right losing to the Giants, albeit, they did go against Tuna and Hoodie and they sure did a number on their offense. Holding those Bills under 30 was an amazing feat. 

Kelly seems to carry that overrated tag but he was a big part of the K-gun offence (named for him) and making it to and losing 4 consecutive super bowls.

And Buffalo was only favored in one the one they coulda' actually won and during the 13 game NFC win streak.  It wasn't to be.

Pretty safe in saying that record will never be equaled.  From our friends at vegasinsider.com

@bob806 said:

Oops, that's right.

Well, he should have won a couple more lol. The guy was great.

There were some great teams in the 70s to compete with...

@icecube said:

It's clearly Marino. 

And then Fouts, Moon and Tark. 

I think Kelly is a bit overrated. You get there 4 times and never close the door even once? They had no right losing to the Giants, albeit, they did go against Tuna and Hoodie and they sure did a number on their offense. Holding those Bills under 30 was an amazing feat. 

Kelly was a Scott Norwood missed FG away from winning one. 

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@mjp28 said:

Ken "the snake" Stabler was also a HOF quarterback but due to CFE caused by head blows was unable to make it to Canton to be induced personally, his grandkids were there in his place......how sad.   His legacy and those of others are why they can not hit QBs and WRs now.....who can play into their 40s in many cases.

But he was one of Madden's great old Raiders that terrorized pro football back then.

Yeah I never understood the delay in his induction to the HOF. It seemed he somehow alienated voters.

There was a documentary on it and I know his family was very upset about him being inducted posthumously. 

@bob806 said:

Oops, that's right.

Well, he should have won a couple more lol. The guy was great.

Ken "the snake" Stabler was also a HOF quarterback but due to CFE caused by head blows was unable to make it to Canton to be induced personally, his grandkids were there in his place......how sad.   His legacy and those of others are why they can not hit QBs and WRs now.....who can play into their 40s in many cases.

But he was one of Madden's great old Raiders that terrorized pro football back then.

Zombo said:

I was just making sure he didn't get me on a technicality... You know Gip!

Z

I did mean players from the SB era 

@dutch-oven said:

Stabler won a Super Bowl for the Raiders, against the Vikings. 

Oops, that's right.

Well, he should have won a couple more lol. The guy was great.

@bob806 said:

I'm going with Tarkenton. 

Marino was great, but without Duper & Clayton he didn't shine.

Honorable Mention to Kenny Stabler.

Stabler won a Super Bowl for the Raiders, against the Vikings. 

Marino was great, but without Duper & Clayton he didn't shine.

Honorable Mention to Kenny Stabler.

@sdbacker80 said:

Throw in Philip Rivers- he’s got some eye popping numbers.

Moon...Kelly...Marino come to mind over the past 30-40 years 

Yeah Rivers didn't come to mind maybe because he's not quite done yet.  Another one who is/was a big achiever/underachiever.

I have a feeling over time he will end up in the didn't quite make it pile.  A HOF candidate like many of the others ?  

Zombo said:

Dan Marino is the best QB to never win a championship.

Otto Graham is the best QB to never win a Super Bowl.

Z

Of course, Otto was "pre Super Bowl era", but he won a BUNCH of Championships.

Mike

And then Fouts, Moon and Tark. 

I think Kelly is a bit overrated. You get there 4 times and never close the door even once? They had no right losing to the Giants, albeit, they did go against Tuna and Hoodie and they sure did a number on their offense. Holding those Bills under 30 was an amazing feat.