@sdbacker80 said:

There are too many mouths to feed here but enough quality depth should injury or COVID hit.  

Throw in Hollywood too. I have no problem calling on any of these targets on 3rd And 8.  It would be Browns type move to split out a guy like Dernest Johnson and throw to him-  that’s the old browns though 

i think Hunt is going to be huge for us this year. 

i think we will see with this offense that OBJ AND Landry are a luxury.  We probably need  just one moving forward. This may not sit well with most on here but I can see it being a reality next offseason.

I do NOT see it that way, particularly.   OBJ and Landry have far different roles, and fill far different needs.   Landry is the slot man, OBJ the outside threat.   Now...perhaps you could say that  Landry's slot role could be filled by one of the TE.  Maybe, but I would not like to see that done.  He is still a primary possession receiver...even with the TEs we have. 

@the-gipper said:

This may be why the Browns are not particularly all  that concerned about who their  3rd string WR will be:   They may see their primary passing attack, even in like 3rd and long, to be  the top WRs,  OBJ and Landry....and then their TE corps.  Guys like Hooper, Bryant now,  Njoku....can be  15 yards down the field guys.   Not to mention Kareem Hunt. 

There are too many mouths to feed here but enough quality depth should injury or COVID hit.  

Throw in Hollywood too. I have no problem calling on any of these targets on 3rd And 8.  It would be Browns type move to split out a guy like Dernest Johnson and throw to him-  that’s the old browns though 

i think Hunt is going to be huge for us this year. 

i think we will see with this offense that OBJ AND Landry are a luxury.  We probably need  just one moving forward. This may not sit well with most on here but I can see it being a reality next offseason.

@calfoxwc said:

Bryant has won the Maurice Bassett for best rookie. He is a football player at heart - and catches the ball like crazy.

https://www.brownsnation.com/harrison-bryant-wins-award-for-best-rookie-during-training-camp/

This may be why the Browns are not particularly all  that concerned about who their  3rd string WR will be:   They may see their primary passing attack, even in like 3rd and long, to be  the top WRs,  OBJ and Landry....and then their TE corps.  Guys like Hooper, Bryant now,  Njoku....can be  15 yards down the field guys.   Not to mention Kareem Hunt. 

Hooper and Bryant obviously.  I’m not a fan of Njoku but I think this competition and his pending Free Agency make him wake up and I like Carlson a lot.

id hate to lose Carlson.

Brown meh 

https://www.brownsnation.com/harrison-bryant-wins-award-for-best-rookie-during-training-camp/

@canton-mike said:

I like Harrison Bryant a lot. He has, among other things, the 2 things I find most lacking in Njoku.....HEART & PASSION for the game. Those can't be taught. You either have them or you don't. I think Bryant's a football player. I don't think Njoku is. Don't get me wrong....I don't doubt for a minute Njoku's talent & ability. Many "flops" have had those. The INTANGIBLES are the difference.

Mike

I've been critical of Njoku too; and his agent doesn't give me warm fuzzies in a final year of a contract in Cleveland ("don't get hurt there/now if you want big $ elsewhere next year!"). 

HOWEVER he played pretty well when Baker was a rookie with 56 receptions and 4 TDs.   Let's hope we see that chemistry restored now that TE is heavily featured. I've always heard competition is supposed to bring out the best in people.  Let's see what happens...

@canton-mike said:

Have your fun Tia. You don't need to like or agree with other's posts, but if making fun of others makes you feel like a big man, go for it boy.

I'm done with the punks on this board.

Easy there, old man.   It's a light hearted joke. 

@canton-mike said:

I like Harrison Bryant a lot. He has, among other things, the 2 things I find most lacking in Njoku.....HEART & PASSION for the game. Those can't be taught. You either have them or you don't. I think Bryant's a football player. I don't think Njoku is. Don't get me wrong....I don't doubt for a minute Njoku's talent & ability. Many "flops" have had those. The INTANGIBLES are the difference.

Mike

@tiamat63 said:

Cal, is that you?

Have your fun Tia. You don't need to like or agree with other's posts, but if making fun of others makes you feel like a big man, go for it boy.

I'm done with the punks on this board.

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

Njoku hasn’t had any competition like this in camp before. This TE room has so much potential 

There's talent in the TE room and ridiculous talent in the backfield with Chubb and Hunt.

The Browns offense is set up to take pressure off Mayfield, and the offensive style by Stefanski should help the OLine (Wills specifically) get acclimated. 

A good running game and an effective, high percentage passing attack will also keep this defense off the field, which could be paramount for the Browns to succeed. 

@canton-mike said:

I like Harrison Bryant a lot. He has, among other things, the 2 things I find most lacking in Njoku.....HEART & PASSION for the game. Those can't be taught. You either have them or you don't. I think Bryant's a football player. I don't think Njoku is. Don't get me wrong....I don't doubt for a minute Njoku's talent & ability. Many "flops" have had those. The INTANGIBLES are the difference.

Mike

Cal, is that you?

Mike

@calfoxwc said:

Apparently, Wills is a given at LT. Harris is a possibility at OG ? or center. and Harrison has been turning heads in training camp like crazy, going high for catching the ball...he's serious business. I think he's a huge steal. Word has it that Njoku is having a bad camp.

Njoku hasn’t had any competition like this in camp before. This TE room has so much potential 

@orion said:

...on the other hand, we've never been able to cover TE's.  Even Njoku looked good today in the 2 quarter scrimmage.

How many TE's can we keep?  Given that we'll be keeping a FB also.

Made me happy to read that he had a good day. I'm not sure how many we can keep, but it's gotta be at least 4, right? Maybe even 5? Hooper, Njoku, Bryant, Pharaoh Brown, and possibly Carlson? 

@jiggins7919 said:

I'm completely floored by Harrison Bryant. It's one thing to make a handful of catches in practice, but apparently he's been torching people from the beginning and still turning it on.

...on the other hand, we've never been able to cover TE's.  Even Njoku looked good today in the 2 quarter scrimmage.

How many TE's can we keep?  Given that we'll be keeping a FB also.

@the-gipper said:

Browns rotating Alex Taylor and Kendall Lamm at first team RT. Conklin seems fine on the sideline.  will he see LT snaps? paid like one..

WTF is this?   Conklin not brought in to be a backup

Conklin gets veteran time off. Happened last week and it wasn't a story. No worries here as far as I know! 

@dutch-oven said:

Do you think Chubb gets the vast majority of rushes, while Hunt plays the "Duke Johnson" role again (a few carries, but used more as a 3rd down back who catches the ball more than runs it), or do you see Hunt being a true 1A to Chubb's 1 (where he plays a full series for every two series Chubb is in for)? 

That is a terrific question and not one that likely has an answer. What I mean is, every game could be different. Apparently Hunt has looked otherworldly in camp, and the struggle now is to figure out how to utilize both our talented runners. Making it more fuzzy is the fact that Hunt absolutely excels in the wide zone rush attack, which is precisely what we will run. 

If I had to GUESS, I would think it will look more like your first scenario with Hunt being the traditional 3rd down back and Chubb getting the lion's share of the carries, but there's something to remember, and that's the fact this administration didn't draft Chubb. They obviously love the man, but if they think Hunt delivers more bang for the buck they'll play him, I have no doubt. And as good as Chubb is near the goal line, Kareem Hunt is on a different level from virtually anyone else in the world. He's so quick running or catching it and inside the 5 yard line will be anyone's guess. Fantasy wise, they're both going to take from the other. 

WTF is this?   Conklin not brought in to be a backup

@calfoxwc said:

Apparently, Wills is a given at LT. maybe Not* after what I just watched ?... Will's can't drop kick to catch up to a outside rusher yet...thou... he can run block at this level

Browns rotating Alex Taylor and Kendall Lamm at first team RT. Conklin seems fine on the sideline.  will he see LT snaps? paid like one..

Harris is a possibility at OG ? or center.   RG maybe?.... but he's not ready to start either, for neither

and Harrison has been turning heads in training camp like crazy, going high for catching the ball...he's serious business. I think he's a huge steal. showed Great hands in traffic today

Word has it that Njoku is having a bad camp. not today..No joke was the best TE1 & 2 on the field...

@jiggins7919 said:

I can see us running a TON of boot-action short passes to our TEs and to Kareem Hunt. Hunt catching a 3 yard boot pass can easily turn into a big play. 

Do you think Chubb gets the vast majority of rushes, while Hunt plays the "Duke Johnson" role again (a few carries, but used more as a 3rd down back who catches the ball more than runs it), or do you see Hunt being a true 1A to Chubb's 1 (where he plays a full series for every two series Chubb is in for)? 

@calfoxwc said:

Apparently, Wills is a given at LT. Harris is a possibility at OG ? or center. and Harrison has been turning heads in training camp like crazy, going high for catching the ball...he's serious business. I think he's a huge steal. Word has it that Njoku is having a bad camp.

I'm completely floored by Harrison Bryant. It's one thing to make a handful of catches in practice, but apparently he's been torching people from the beginning and still turning it on. I also like Carlson, who is another receiving TE that will be tough to get rid of. Carlson is the guy who effectively ended that Steelers game last year by catching a very difficult TD. 

One of the studs of training camp has been Austin Hooper, which is GREAT news for us. We'll be running a bunch of two TE sets, so having Harrison Bryant turning into a viable threat is a serious boon to our attack. We're going to be pretty tough to stop if we can get these pieces working together. 

I can see us running a TON of boot-action short passes to our TEs and to Kareem Hunt. Hunt catching a 3 yard boot pass can easily turn into a big play. 

@gumby73 said:

I guess i really never caught this connection early on?

TE Harrison Bryant at Florida Atlantic was coached by Charlie Weiss jr..That is the son of Pats blowhard... Charlie Weiss Sr. now on NFL radio.. While traveling to work this past week, I heard Charlie Sr. compare Harrison Bryant as a combo of Mark Bravro & Zach Ertz... Charlie rarely thinks highly of the Browns in any season..but this season, Charlie Sr. really liked the drafting of HB by AB... 

We hear rookie's may not see much playing time due to lack of prep time?... or just Hang your hopes on seeing?     Wills, Harrison Bryant & Nick Harris ?

Apparently, Wills is a given at LT. Harris is a possibility at OG ? or center. and Harrison has been turning heads in training camp like crazy, going high for catching the ball...he's serious business. I think he's a huge steal. Word has it that Njoku is having a bad camp.

@jiggins7919 said:

Well, now they're saying he's "truly day to day". 

That's INCREDIBLE news! 

"But aren't we all"....ESPN'S Chris Berman's famous line.

TE Harrison Bryant at Florida Atlantic was coached by Charlie Weiss jr..That is the son of Pats blowhard... Charlie Weiss Sr. now on NFL radio.. While traveling to work this past week, I heard Charlie Sr. compare Harrison Bryant as a combo of Mark Bravro & Zach Ertz... Charlie rarely thinks highly of the Browns in any season..but this season, Charlie Sr. really liked the drafting of HB by AB... 

We hear rookie's may not see much playing time due to lack of prep time?... or just Hang your hopes on seeing?     Wills, Harrison Bryant & Nick Harris ?

@jiggins7919 said:

Well, now they're saying he's "truly day to day". 

Aren't we all? ?