Formerly Stone said:

Stoney that is Wrong dude...only the MODs here can Change your words !!! Ha Ha Ha !

Fixed that for you!

@dawgpound3 said:

Ha Ha...Ok that's Kool. And You right is not Dead. And I Hated it when You guys were banished by Modell. This is part of the "Fun" we call Football. I dont ever want to lose to you guys again though ... sorry !!

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

Okay. I will give you respect where it's due. But listen, it's still a mutual rivalry. The rivalry's not dead, it's dormant. I respect the fact youse guys won a superbowl. However, since you are my rival, that is all the respect you are going to get. Steelers and Browns fans do not belong in the same sentence!

@the-gipper said:

The test is how well would the fans support the team after a couple of down DECADES. You are probably too young to know about the 40 consecutive non-layoff seasons the Steelers had. Just imagine if that sort of thing were to be repeated here in the future.

Gipper.... BROWNS FANS are freaking AMAZING !! They are... the Steeler fans who Rip them are totally Missing the Point as You stated. You guys are Die hard Crazy and I respect that. The ONLY ONLY Thing that diminishes that ..is you guys ( not ALL but a BUNCH of you) are just Horrible crybabies when it come to the Steelers. If you guys would man up and respect what Pittsburgh does...dang I would say Your fan base is just Off the Chain Awesome. But come on...it gets Old . Most of you cant even Type PITTSBURGH ... its pissburgh ..piss and Black, Urine... Squealers Sh**sburgh.... Come on . I NEVER call he Browns anything but the Browns ...and Cleveland is Cleveland. I Show RESPECT. And still get dogged by many here. Respect and you will be respected. And the Steeler fans who use all those derogatory names for Cleveland Stop,,its stupid and make YOU Look stupid. Especially HERE where You are a Guest. Respect due. Both ways .

@kosar_for_president said:

Your a Dufass...ha ha ha...Got Tons of Life dude. The few hours a week I spend on line , isnt MY Life. I am Involved Heavily in a CHurch , and with A 14 U Fastpitch Travel Team , Play basketball and Softball and am in a Band that plays weekly. Not to mention the 50 Hours a week I spend at Work. I sleep well every night brother.

@holmes10_ward_86 said:

I think you are missing a point here. You seem to be saying "ain't it great" that we stick with our team during a few down years". Well, that is all fine, well, and good, but that is not the argument. No one is debating that the Steelers have had a good long string of success with a very few low points. (Though....I have done the research on this, during those low stretches in the 80s the Steelers would only get like 35-40 to attend their games at 59,000 capacity 3 rivers).

The test is how well would the fans support the team after a couple of down DECADES. You are probably too young to know about the 40 consecutive non-layoff seasons the Steelers had. Just imagine if that sort of thing were to be repeated here in the future.

@holmes10_ward_86 said:

So, you DON'T think it is any harder to be a fan of a losing team than to be a fan of a winning team?

In theory I guess that should be correct.

Perhaps it should be said more accurately that it is more frustrating being a fan of a losing team, not necessarily harder.

Or are you saying that one should NOT be proud of sticking with a losing team that you are a fan of? That one should abandon that team for one that is having more success. That seems to be what you imply.

Please tell me I am wrong about that.

@holmes10_ward_86 said:

The Browns Backers are a large organization, but, like everything else. It has been surpassed. You do not see Browns Fans overtake other stadiums like Steeler Fans do. Heck, we over took your stadium one year. That would never happen in Heinz.

Browns fans whole argument especially on this site is that your team has to be one of the worst in the league to prove your fanship! According to all of them we are all fans because we flock like sheep to the "best" team. Oddly, most Steeler fans I know debunk this argument as they have been fans their whole lives.

Again, a few simple tests: A. Browns Backers are considered the largest organized fan club of any team in the world. If it has been surpassed it must have just been in the last few months....and by who? Fans of Manchester United maybe.

2. And yes, the true test of a fan base is not how you are doing when things are oh, so rosy, but how supportive they are when things are not so rosy. Give your team 10 consecutive lousy years....THAT is when their metal is tested.

3. I assume you are from Pittsburgh, so properly people from Peetown are and should be fans of their team all their lives.

But what you don't realize is that their are a lot of FRAKs living around here, and in other parts of the country (FrontRunnerAssKissers). Though your dedicated group of Pittsburgh area fans aren't going to drop their allegiance, the FRAKS will dump that team like they are having a bowel movement the minute things are going to go so rosy.

Formerly Stone said:

You got to be honest Stone, if that was your history you would be proud of it too. Come on, that is why Steeler fans don't want to discuss it and dismiss it as "old". "Show Dick some respect"

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

Truly sad. I feel bad for you. I am sure their are better things to do with your life, no?

@dawgpound3 said:

We all have... like.... war scars. Scars that last for generations and generations. When we ever get a championship, all that turmoil and fighting will be gone. We browns fans will be free at last. It's a weird feeling. It's a cleveland thing, you wouldn't understand it.

Well Stated ! Ha Ha...

Formerly Stone said:

You're right about the"modern history". But I'm still standing proud and tall of my team. That's why we are called Browns fans because we can take the good, the bad and the ugly. I'm sure your proud of your team. Not knocking on the steelers, but the love for the browns is a very special feeling that other fans and I share.

We all have... like.... war scars. Scars that last for generations and generations. When we ever get a championship, all that turmoil and fighting will be gone. We browns fans will be free at last. It's a weird feeling. It's a cleveland thing, you wouldn't understand it.

@why-cant-we-win said:

I am merely a Realist... And The Browns are , or at least were a Pain in the Butt MANY Sundays in my life !! Memories of Bernie Kosar , Metcalf and many others have Haunted me on a Chunk of Sundays. And I am thankful I didnt have to live thru the 50`s and 60`s. ha ha ha....

@why-cant-we-win said:

browns 8 LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIPS 46' 47' 48 ' 49' 50 54 ' 55' 56' 64' STOOLERS 6 LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIPS 74' 75' 78' 79 05' 08 advantage cleveland

cleveland 11 Conference Championships 50' 51' 52' 53' 54' 55' 57' 64' 65' 68' 69' PITSPUKE 6 CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS 74' 75' 78' 79' 05' 08' AGAIN ADVANTAGE CLEVELAND SO FOR THOSE KEEPING TRACK THATS CLEVELAND 2 SHITSBURGH 0

CLEVELAND 10 Division Championships 67' 68' 69' 71' 80' 81' 85' 86' 87' 89' PITSPUKE WITH 17 DIVISIONS CROWNS 72' 74' 75' 76' 77' 78' 79' 83' 84' 92' 94' 95' 96' 97' 01' 02' 04' 08' SO THATS ONE FOR PITSPUKE ADVANTAGE CLEVELAND 2-1

Playoff Appearances CELVEAND WITH 29 - 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1957, 1958, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1994, 2002 PITSPUKE WITH 22 - 1947, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1989, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005 SO CLEVAND TAKES THAT ROUND TO THATS 3-1 SO I WOULD RETHINK THAT STATEMENT THAT WE ARE THE WORST TEAM EVER

FAR from the worst team ever. Proud and Rich History. Bad times have fallen upon them...and its an extended period of time. Exaggeration... Old school Steeler fans still Respect the Browns. We Remember when the Browns were no easy mark. And our Dads remember when the Browns OWNED us. Cleveland has much to be proud of...No not recently. But it cant be Bad forever. Call me whatever , but I still sweat both times we play you guys till the Final Gun. (Ok we have had a few games where the Sweat was nice and dry by the half...) Respect still Due !

Formerly Stone said:

i like to know how your dumbass thinks we are one of the worst teams lets get out facts straight here

browns 8 LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIPS 46' 47' 48 ' 49' 50 54 ' 55' 56' 64' STOOLERS 6 LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIPS 74' 75' 78' 79 05' 08 advantage cleveland

cleveland 11 Conference Championships 50' 51' 52' 53' 54' 55' 57' 64' 65' 68' 69' PITSPUKE 6 CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS 74' 75' 78' 79' 05' 08' AGAIN ADVANTAGE CLEVELAND SO FOR THOSE KEEPING TRACK THATS CLEVELAND 2 SHITSBURGH 0

CLEVELAND 10 Division Championships 67' 68' 69' 71' 80' 81' 85' 86' 87' 89' PITSPUKE WITH 17 DIVISIONS CROWNS 72' 74' 75' 76' 77' 78' 79' 83' 84' 92' 94' 95' 96' 97' 01' 02' 04' 08' SO THATS ONE FOR PITSPUKE ADVANTAGE CLEVELAND 2-1

Playoff Appearances CELVEAND WITH 29 - 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1957, 1958, 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1994, 2002 PITSPUKE WITH 24 - 1947, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1989, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005 2007 2008 SO CLEVAND TAKES THAT ROUND TO THATS 3-1 SO I WOULD RETHINK THAT STATEMENT THAT WE ARE THE WORST TEAM EVER

@azbrowns said:

Why do you put quotes around certain words? You aren't quoting me, I know that much......

I didn't create this thread

I didn't say anything about your opinion. I was making an observation.

Personally I think name-calling is pretty lame and uncreative, but it comes with the territory.

Whatever.... I just found it funny that you have over 1,000 posts on a Browns board and a large quantity of them are you arguing the same stuff over and over again.. I know that if I were in your shoes (meaning, if the Browns had six SB trophies and the Steelers had zero) I wouldn't acknowledge anything the other fan base said negatively about my team.

Nothing to argue Dude !! I am not arguing any point. Just raising the other side of some of the thought process here. And if you were my my shoes ? you have NO WAY of knowing that because it hasn't happened , so highly Speculative. As stated many times My friends invited me to come post here a few yrs ago. I have many Browns fans as Friends , Point is I been here for awhile , and Dont treat people crappy. So why are you concerned about me for having a HISTORY of posting on this board. Sorry brother it just sounds like whining to me.

Formerly Stone said:

They could have great grandchildren in captivity

ha ha ha .... Dude its gonna be scarey...IF they rise. It could look like the Thriller Video !!!

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

Awesome dude

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

But I have friends here and other people that I respect for being solid football minds. So I wont be "Offended " because you think this should be a "Country Club".

Why do you put quotes around certain words? You aren't quoting me, I know that much......

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

I respect your Team and your "Intelligent" fans... You wont see me using BS Names for the Browns or Cleveland ( Reversed Expl. PISSBURGH ??) its classless and stupid

I didn't create this thread

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

... and , I stay out of Threads that I have no business being in. If you don't want to hear my opinion , dont talk about the Steelers and I probably wont even be chiming in.

I didn't say anything about your opinion. I was making an observation.

Personally I think name-calling is pretty lame and uncreative, but it comes with the territory.

Whatever.... I just found it funny that you have over 1,000 posts on a Browns board and a large quantity of them are you arguing the same stuff over and over again.. I know that if I were in your shoes (meaning, if the Browns had six SB trophies and the Steelers had zero) I wouldn't acknowledge anything the other fan base said negatively about my team.

Formerly Stone said:

They already ARE ...but Underground fans. In Hiding like the Indian Fans who poured out onto the Earth as the Tribe tried to win the WS during the Indian Uprising as the Jake was Built.

@nigeltufnel said:

ha Ha ha .... Dont Hold me to that . But , I do expect them to be Improved quite a bit.