The mandate was lied about, keeping your dr if you like your dr was a FREAKIN LIE, it boosted premiums rather than lowering them, it drove a lot of doctors to despise the fake attempt at solving the problem.

it made it worse, just like the left always does. it happens because you liberals do things on EMOTION, Personal benefit, and NOT for the good of our country and Americans.

The environment? LOL. that is stupid.

Kyoto treaty - a UN GLOBIST FARCE.

Paris accord - a UN EUROPEAN GLOBALIST FARCE

that is so stupid - obamao's asinine ulterior motive environmental actions HURT the environment.

Like I said, what liberals do, is based on their own emotions and self-benefit - resulting in failure and the opposite result of what was originally intended:

Obama's Regulations Actually Hurt the Environment ...

https://www.americanlibertyreport.com/articles/...

Obama made it clear that he wanted to transform the energy industry. Under the guise of environmentalism, he invested heavily in alternative fuels. He also used unilateral regulation to force biofuels into many sectors. The result is that today, you can scarcely find gasoline anywhere in the country that is without ethanol.

@calfoxwc said:

there is criticism - legit criticism, then there is extremely asinine and belligerent dishonest TDS stupid hate that ignores the truth.

And the truth is,

NAME ONE GOOD/GREAT THING YOUR BIDEN EVER DID FOR AMERICA. or Obamao. or dishonest hack Harris.

Go ahead. I wait, not for long, because you won't find one to list - Hoorta never has tried - TDS.

Says Tucker Carlson....  Fox can drop the "Fair and Balanced". Prime time last night (from reports I've gotten) was essentially a Trump campaign rally. LOL dishonest hack? Really? You're following one Cal. If Kasish is a slimeball for flipping parties, so is Trump, simple enough. Nice try on spinning your way out of it though. You just happen to buy the flavor of snake oil he's currently selling. 

RE: Obama-I've tried twice, (that Cal has selective amnesia about) and all I get is a bunch of "well, yeah they did that, but from my POV, it's crap". From Obama care to the environment. So I'm really not interested in listen to Cal's spew again. Insanity is trying the same thing over and over- and expecting a different result. I already know what the result is going to be should I try again, listening to  more right wing psychobabble from someone who has incurable ODS.  

@texasag1969 said:

No you are missing the larger point. Every person who turns on Trump you automatically knee jerk to rip them apart. That is your history, deny it if you will, but it's true.

there is criticism - legit criticism, then there is extremely asinine and belligerent dishonest TDS stupid hate that ignores the truth.

And the truth is,

NAME ONE GOOD/GREAT THING YOUR BIDEN EVER DID FOR AMERICA. or Obamao. or dishonest hack Harris.

Go ahead. I wait, not for long, because you won't find one to list - Hoorta never has tried - TDS.

Sorry John unfortunately you were a weak-ass candidate and you got your butt smacked.

WSS

@calfoxwc said:

you are being stupid - I clearly made the point that kasich was one thing, then flipped when he was embarrassed in that pres primary, so he changed himself.

it doesn't matter what he did before, as far as completely deciding to be a lefty now. You are missing the point, as usual.

No you are missing the larger point. Every person who turns on Trump you automatically knee jerk to rip them apart. That is your history, deny it if you will, but it's true.

Kasich was one of the first republicans I ever voted for.

he seemed legit for awhile.

but declining to attend the inauguration in Cleveland was so bush league, you canT pretend Any thing after that.
 

in his head he has convinced himself he is righteous.....these folks lose touch with reality so easily 

look at DeWine.  He want to declare himself a saint.  In reality he’s destroyed a state and started the ball rolling for a country wide fear porn epidemic.

assholes

@hoorta said:

Just get outta here with that crap... Since you want to talk about a fake slimeball. Guess who's changed his party affiliation five F**KIG times? King Corona.  LOL!!!!!  

From Wiki.....  

"Trump registered as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987 and since that time has changed his party affiliation five times. In 1999, Trump changed his party affiliation to the Independence Party of New York. In August 2001, Trump changed his party affiliation to Democratic. In September 2009, Trump changed his party affiliation back to the Republican Party. In December 2011, Trump changed to "no party affiliation" (independent). In April 2012, Trump again returned to the Republican Party."

Now there's a guy with only one belief system... Say what you think will get you the most votes....   

missed the point again. it isn't about changing parties - that happens when your party changes and you leave. That's fine.

But Trump has always been himself. I could have grown up a democrat until JFK and Bobby Kennedy were murdered.

Not even Hubert Humphrey inspired me... there hasn't been a decent democrat president since. A lot of people change parties.

   Kasich changed himself to fit in with another party. Can.....you......hear......me..............now? LOL.

@texasag1969 said:

LOL! And without any military background even. I'm amazed it took you this long to denigrate yet another Republican who thinks Trump is a poor choice.

I guess this doesn't count for much huh? 

"His tenure in the House included 18 years on the House Armed Services Committee and six years as chairman of the House Budget Committee. He was a key figure in the passage of both 1996 welfare reform legislation and the Balanced Budget Act of 1997."

You are so damn blind.?

you are being stupid - I clearly made the point that kasich was one thing, then flipped when he was embarrassed in that pres primary, so he changed himself.

it doesn't matter what he did before, as far as completely deciding to be a lefty now. You are missing the point, as usual.

@hoorta said:

Virtual event....

Seems appropriate, Kasich is a virtual Democrat.

@calfoxwc said:

that may be - Trump make him look like a red faced monkey's ass - you completely change your persona and alleged "belief system" he had....because he doesn't like the president?

nah. He's a fake frontrunning slimeball.

Just get outta here with that crap... Since you want to talk about a fake slimeball. Guess who's changed his party affiliation five F**KIG times? King Corona.  LOL!!!!!  

From Wiki.....  

"Trump registered as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987 and since that time has changed his party affiliation five times. In 1999, Trump changed his party affiliation to the Independence Party of New York. In August 2001, Trump changed his party affiliation to Democratic. In September 2009, Trump changed his party affiliation back to the Republican Party. In December 2011, Trump changed to "no party affiliation" (independent). In April 2012, Trump again returned to the Republican Party."

Now there's a guy with only one belief system... Say what you think will get you the most votes....   

@calfoxwc said:

that may be - Trump make him look like a red faced monkey's ass - you completely change your persona and alleged "belief system" he had....because he doesn't like the president?

nah. He's a fake frontrunning slimeball.

LOL! And without any military background even. I'm amazed it took you this long to denigrate yet another Republican who thinks Trump is a poor choice.

I guess this doesn't count for much huh? 

"His tenure in the House included 18 years on the House Armed Services Committee and six years as chairman of the House Budget Committee. He was a key figure in the passage of both 1996 welfare reform legislation and the Balanced Budget Act of 1997."

You are so damn blind.?

@hoorta said:

Nah- he couldn't take anymore of the Slimeball in Chief- just like the other Republicans over at the Lincoln Project. BTW, you're behind the times, I knew weeks ago Kasich was going to speak at the DNC.

that may be - Trump make him look like a red faced monkey's ass - you completely change your persona and alleged "belief system" he had....because he doesn't like the president?

nah. He's a fake frontrunning slimeball.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

What DNC?  Wasn't it cancelled like the republican one?

Virtual event.... This just in... All the potential Biden VP candidates scheduled to speak. Except Susan Rice- take that FWIW.   Oh boy Benghazi, here we go!!! If it's Rice, Trump and the conspiracy guys will be hammering on it daily... 

@calfoxwc said:

how did this loser ever get to be gov of Ohio? LEt's see- lied anough to get at the top of the Ohio Republican Party.

then totally got rejected at running for president. So what does the slug do? He slimes his way over to the democrat party and

pretends he's biden/obaMao to find a better skateboard to wealth and higher office to ride. He is going to speak at the DNC convention.

He's fine with our 2nd Amendment until he gets embarrassed running in the GOP primary for pres. So, he flips and just changes into a democrat party boy who disses OUR GOD GIVEN 2nd Amendment RIGHTS.

What a slimeball.

https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/op-ed-speaking-biden-dnc-will-complete-kasichs-betrayal-gun-owners

Nah- he couldn't take anymore of the Slimeball in Chief- just like the other Republicans over at the Lincoln Project. BTW, you're behind the times, I knew weeks ago Kasich was going to speak at the DNC.