@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

I agree. And then a fake punt after... reeks of desperation.. just a wonky start. 
Lamar really is just built different. I’m not sure who can stop that offense. 

I know, Lamar did some shit that was simply stupid good. I told anyone who would listen to me just how much Lamar terrified me when Ravens drafted him. I saw him beat the stink out of my Seminoles for years and nobody could even touch him or seemingly make his team PUNT. 

The truly scary thing about tonight's game is the Bengals EXPECT to win. You remember at the end of last season and they were mouthing off about the final game and how they were going to beat us? They were 1-14, mouthing off off. And they beat our ass. 

I know we're talking about game here, and I try not to take it too seriously, but we could be really screwed as a fan base here. It'll be ugly as all hell if we lose. I just want to have fun again. 

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

Larry O was impressive as hell. We need him to be that guy for us in the middle. Explosive.

As a UNC-Charlotte graduate, I just have to say again it's so great seeing Larry ball out. Totally agree, we need to lock him up especially because a lot of dudes are going to look for a deal with the uncertainty of the salary cap over the next few years. 

@jiggins7919 said:

I have a feeling that interception killed him. First drive of the season and he gets baited by the largest human on earth. 

it took Lamar Jackson over 4 weeks of camp to throw his first interception and it took Baker just 4 minutes. 

I agree. And then a fake punt after... reeks of desperation.. just a wonky start. 
Lamar really is just built different. I’m not sure who can stop that offense. 

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

That’s rough.. If we see this, I’m sure Baker saw this too. I expect a different looking QB from here out.

I have a feeling that interception killed him. First drive of the season and he gets baited by the largest human on earth. What a way to start the damn year. 

Ya know, I heard something the other day that really made me nervous. It said that it took Lamar Jackson over 4 weeks of camp to throw his first interception and it took Baker just 4 minutes. 

@jiggins7919 said:

Uhhhhh....guys. He threw this ball away btw. I...just...I...ummm...

That’s rough.. If we see this, I’m sure Baker saw this too. I expect a different looking QB from here out.

@texasag1969 said:

I don't disagree with that. But one thing that bothered me about the Ravens game was that for some reason after a whole high school, college and pro career they switch him to the other side of the field. You have to suddenly try to do many things reverse from what you had been doing for years. Now why exactly was that done? It certainly looked like he was not anywhere near what we are used to seeing from him. Isn't anyone else capable of being the LDE? I didn't exactly see the people playing RDE do much of anything either. Well at least the half of the game I watched.

Plus the way they were using the DL was to try to keep containment lanes on the QB, kind of limiting the things they could do to pushing forward rather than trying to get around. If the LBs can't pick up the holes with a DE like Myles spinning, jumping, going around, etc., we are in really big, big trouble.

we ain't scoring 30...get that out of your head......would be nice....but i see their ground game eating up the clock along with our creampuff secondary getting eaten up on short to mid pass completions.....chewing up the clock ...that is what all teams do to the clowns...

@nickers said:

"We have the players, and we have the coaches,” Chubb said. “We just have to put it together. There is no excuse for us with who all is on our team to go out there and put up one touchdown. That is unacceptable. We know it, we accept that, and we are looking to get better.”

~Nick Chubb~

This is all I have heard from the team since it has been back... Why are we still waiting?

no shit.....when this thing falls apart again, which it probably will, i'd like to see chubb come back to atlanta.....gurly looks like he is shot....already....i always thought chubb was the better of gurly and sony michel....

@sdbacker80 said:

A QB like Lamar neutralizes your pass rushers. 
 

I fully expect (Hope) that we see Garrett have 2/3 sacks especially when lined up over their other tackle Hart- he was awful against the Chargers 

We actually lead the damn league in pass pressure percentage. Can you believe that shit? 

Burrow goes DOWN in 8 hours. 

@texasag1969 said:

I don't disagree with that. But one thing that bothered me about the Ravens game was that for some reason after a whole high school, college and pro career they switch him to the other side of the field. You have to suddenly try to do many things reverse from what you had been doing for years. Now why exactly was that done? It certainly looked like he was not anywhere near what we are used to seeing from him. Isn't anyone else capable of being the LDE? I didn't exactly see the people playing RDE do much of anything either. Well at least the half of the game I watched.

Plus the way they were using the DL was to try to keep containment lanes on the QB, kind of limiting the things they could do to pushing forward rather than trying to get around. If the LBs can't pick up the holes with a DE like Myles spinning, jumping, going around, etc., we are in really big, big trouble.

A QB like Lamar neutralizes your pass rushers. 
 

I fully expect (Hope) that we see Garrett have 2/3 sacks especially when lined up over their other tackle Hart- he was awful against the Chargers 

@jiggins7919 said:

Uhhhhh....guys. He threw this ball away btw. I...just...I...ummm...

Fuck me. 

@jiggins7919 said:

The defense does scare the crap out of me. If Burrow gets on a roll and into a groove, we might have to score 30. Remember, Burrow is young and doesn't know any better. He's going to be a lot like Baker as a rookie. You know, the guy who set records. Burrow is just gonna throw the ball around, whereas Baker knows he's running out of time. To be honest, this game isn't really about Baker as much as the papers would have us believe. This game is about our OTHER #1 pick, Myles Garrett. 

Garrett got seriously paid and that money comes with the expectation that he will alter games on a regular basis. Garrett needs to take over and do so on national television. He's got to exercise the previous demons and help his team get an effing victory. 

I don't disagree with that. But one thing that bothered me about the Ravens game was that for some reason after a whole high school, college and pro career they switch him to the other side of the field. You have to suddenly try to do many things reverse from what you had been doing for years. Now why exactly was that done? It certainly looked like he was not anywhere near what we are used to seeing from him. Isn't anyone else capable of being the LDE? I didn't exactly see the people playing RDE do much of anything either. Well at least the half of the game I watched.

Plus the way they were using the DL was to try to keep containment lanes on the QB, kind of limiting the things they could do to pushing forward rather than trying to get around. If the LBs can't pick up the holes with a DE like Myles spinning, jumping, going around, etc., we are in really big, big trouble.

@sdbacker80 said:

I think we put up big numbers Thursday.  Let’s hope the defense can get in the way a little 

The defense does scare the crap out of me. If Burrow gets on a roll and into a groove, we might have to score 30. Remember, Burrow is young and doesn't know any better. He's going to be a lot like Baker as a rookie. You know, the guy who set records. Burrow is just gonna throw the ball around, whereas Baker knows he's running out of time. To be honest, this game isn't really about Baker as much as the papers would have us believe. This game is about our OTHER #1 pick, Myles Garrett. 

Garrett got seriously paid and that money comes with the expectation that he will alter games on a regular basis. Garrett needs to take over and do so on national television. He's got to exercise the previous demons and help his team get an effing victory. 

@texasag1969 said:

So you want a Forbes magazine too just like Stormy huh??

   pink font included... nope.. but i'd buy her magazine  house, car, bar bills.. but never a pair of panties ever again.. ?

@tiamat63 said:

You think I'm some cheap whore who just hands out rando upvotes?

Sir, I am at bare minimum, a high class escort.  Thank you very much. 

So you want a Forbes magazine too just like Stormy huh??

@texasag1969 said:

And that seems to lead right back to your piece on Baker. Do I get a credit??   ?

You think I'm some cheap whore who just hands out rando upvotes?

Sir, I am at bare minimum, a high class escort.  Thank you very much. 

@nickers said:

"We have the players, and we have the coaches,” Chubb said. “We just have to put it together. There is no excuse for us with who all is on our team to go out there and put up one touchdown. That is unacceptable. We know it, we accept that, and we are looking to get better.”

~Nick Chubb~

This is all I have heard from the team since it has been back... Why are we still waiting?

I think we put up big numbers Thursday.  Let’s hope the defense can get in the way a little 

@nickers said:

"We have the players, and we have the coaches,” Chubb said. “We just have to put it together. There is no excuse for us with who all is on our team to go out there and put up one touchdown. That is unacceptable. We know it, we accept that, and we are looking to get better.”

~Nick Chubb~

This is all I have heard from the team since it has been back... Why are we still waiting?

We haven’t been this good offensively in 20 years. Chubb is speaking facts. He is trying to speak it into existence. 
Nick is also a Batman fan, and the night is darkest just before dawn, folks.

@tiamat63 said:

Really? Well PFF and I saw the same things then this time. 

For a spot many of us were concerned about, it's an early return that shows promise.    If he keeps this up and Wills stays healthy while improving, then it's one of the best lines in the NFL.

And that seems to lead right back to your piece on Baker. Do I get a credit??   ?

~Nick Chubb~

This is all I have heard from the team since it has been back... Why are we still waiting?

@sdbacker80 said:

The Line was really solid all day.

i believe Wyatt Teller had the highest PPF score of all guards last week 91.2.  He did a fair bit of owning his man And others  throughout 

Really? Well PFF and I saw the same things then this time. 

For a spot many of us were concerned about, it's an early return that shows promise.    If he keeps this up and Wills stays healthy while improving, then it's one of the best lines in the NFL.

I know we can't lose this game Thursday, that's obvious. And you know what? We SHOULDN'T lose! The Bengals were the worst team in the world last year and we play them week 2. There's NO WAY they should come close to beating us. Maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. Perhaps we just laid a clunker against the Ravens and we're much better than we showed. Watch us go out and beat the shit out of the Bengals tomorrow night. 

Here's what I'm thinking. We're not likely to get down 30 points like last week. We'll be able to utilize the ground game the entire time and wear their butts out. I'm predicting a very close 1st half, and then I think we simply "out talent" them. Cream rises to the top, OBJ scores on a 50 yarder, Chubb and Hunt blow up, and Baker finally gets to play "game manager" while finding his footing. 

Baker = 17-24 for 223 yards and 2 tds with 1 pick. 

Final score = Browns 27, Bengals 16

@tiamat63 said:

Double post.   I'll say this, watching the Oline work on the Ravens front - Wyatt Teller should be getting some love.  Kid did work early and often.  

edit:  I'm beginning to think if there's any hope for salvaging the season while slowly bringing along Baker, this team is going to have to do their best impression of the 2016 Dallas Cowboys.   Run the ball, play action, control the clock, play keep away, and hope to god the defense finds a stop or two along the way.

The Line was really solid all day.

i believe Wyatt Teller had the highest PPF score of all guards last week 91.2.  He did a fair bit of owning his man And others  throughout