<![CDATA[How did the Defense get so bad?]]>  How did the defense get so bad?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/58341/how-did-the-defense-get-so-badRSS for NodeThu, 01 Oct 2026 20:01:15 GMTFri, 18 Sep 2020 12:21:46 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to How did the Defense get so bad? on Fri, 27 Nov 2020 00:18:39 GMT]]> Biggest improvement I see is the lack of mistakes and drive killers.

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@topdawg31 said:

This post is aging really well...lol

I know right...lol

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@topdawg31 said:

This post is aging really well...lol

Not fair dredging up old quotes... funny, but not fair.

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@kvoethe said:

Dumping Dorsey and Williams ruined any chance we had of becoming a winning football program.  No amount of 1st round picks will ever change that.  

This post is aging really well...lol

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/972256https://brownsboard.com/post/972256Thu, 26 Nov 2020 17:43:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How did the Defense get so bad? on Sun, 27 Sep 2020 20:28:56 GMT]]> 2-1. Browns offense is coming along. Defense looked solid against an inept offense today. Still lots to improve 

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@kvoethe said:

Dumping Dorsey and Williams ruined any chance we had of becoming a winning football program.  No amount of 1st round picks will ever change that.  

Are you the Jack Park of Browns historical randomness? Do you have any Brian Sipe or Craig Powell material?

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@tour2ma said:

New phone...

Same Gipper...

Hmmmmmm... prolly the metal plate...

What would a craven loser like you know anything about it?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/959855https://brownsboard.com/post/959855Sun, 27 Sep 2020 19:01:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How did the Defense get so bad? on Sun, 27 Sep 2020 16:31:24 GMT]]> Dumping Dorsey and Williams ruined any chance we had of becoming a winning football program.  No amount of 1st round picks will ever change that.  

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/959814https://brownsboard.com/post/959814Sun, 27 Sep 2020 16:31:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How did the Defense get so bad? on Sun, 27 Sep 2020 16:16:52 GMT]]> New phone...

Same Gipper...

Hmmmmmm... prolly the metal plate...

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@flugel said:

Gips, that doesn't say "Made in Amityville" - does it?  

The Short Answer: iPhones Are Made in China

However, it's not that simple. Not only does Foxconn have factories around the world in countries including Thailand, South Korea,Malaysia, Singapore, the Philippines, and the Czech Republic, but it's not the only company that assembles iPhones.

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@the-gipper said:

Except, I got a whole new cell phone.  A complete upgrade, a different brand.  And it still does it.   So I am thinking it  ain't my phone. 

Gips, that doesn't say "Made in Amityville" - does it?  

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@flugel said:

We also gave an undrafted STs Return prospect Damon Sheehy-Guiseppi a tryout.  I have to say even though it was just preseason - I'll remember his return for a TD and the excitement he brought to the team. Not a bad cup of coffee!

Preseason game 1 last season... Familiar Team with lots of familiar names... 

 a Saturday night tune-up     Keenum/Haskins/Higgy/Mack Wilson... Sheehy...not a bad cup of coffee at all ☕ Sheehy is signed in the XFL, with the NY Guardians.. #chase'ndreams

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@tour2ma said:

Make it 3 on the wagon...

Kid played fast.

A read on Gustin’s combine testing I stumbled upon 

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/ras-explains-the-emergence-of-porter-gustin-in-cleveland/

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@the-gipper said:

Except, I got a whole new cell phone.  A complete upgrade, a different brand.  And it still does it.   So I am thinking it  ain't my phone. 

Maybe it's that new Alexa Echo. ??

I don't know about that!

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@tour2ma said:

lol...

I got that... I got that...

Except, I got a whole new cell phone.  A complete upgrade, a different brand.  And it still does it.   So I am thinking it  ain't my phone. 

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@flugel said:

Ray Ray Armstrong - Did one of his parents design Gipper's cell phone?

lol...

I got that... I got that...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/959683https://brownsboard.com/post/959683Sat, 26 Sep 2020 19:02:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How did the Defense get so bad? on Sat, 26 Sep 2020 14:51:42 GMT]]> Also a U player at the back end of our roster - claimed off waivers 9/6, a Stars 5th round pick last year - DL Joe Jackson. He played 31 snaps vs Cincy [and recovered a fumble] without being on the roster vs Baltimore - so at least a rotation guy who they trust enough to throw into the fire.

Could do a lot worse than Jackson, Vernon, Adrian Clayborn as your backup edges.. with Gustin starting, of course.

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@jiggins7919 said:

Coach Stefanski was just talking about him in an interview. I'm SO glad he made the team and we didn't keep Chad Thomas. That guy drove me NUTS and I was furious when we drafted him. 

This is just a guess but former University of Miami player (Alonzo Highsmith) who still has ties with the U - seemed to have a little influence about bringing in and/or keeping guys from that program.   Last year we had the following guys from that program in our training camp:

David Njoku (here before Highsmith)

Chad Thomas (this reach wasn't quite as bad as picking Austin Corbett at the top of round 2; but it was bad enough considering what other teams were getting in that round)

Vernon Olivier (12 starts in 2017, 11 starts in 2018, 10 starts in 2019,  already missed a start in 2020, best football in the rear view mirror?)

Ray Ray Armstrong - Did one of his parents design Gipper's cell phone? (After appearing in 9 games for us in 2018 - he got cut and played for a combined 6 games in 2019 for Dallas and New Orleans)

Sheldrick Redwine (No complaints from me about this guy.  Gives it all he's got, fundamentally sound tackler and gives us solid depth)

Duke Johnson (Once the level competition at his position became strong enough to challenge his role with the offense - it didn't bring out the best in him. He hired Drew Rosenhaus as his agent; and then he was traded during training camp.   He became one of a few our Exes living in Texas (the others were Fells and Hyde).

We also gave an undrafted STs Return prospect Damon Sheehy-Guiseppi a tryout.  I have to say even though it was just preseason - I'll remember his return for a TD and the excitement he brought to the team. Not a bad cup of coffee!

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/959653https://brownsboard.com/post/959653Sat, 26 Sep 2020 14:32:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How did the Defense get so bad? on Fri, 25 Sep 2020 20:24:10 GMT]]> Hope they do hold Ward out unless it completely loosens up by Sunday morning.. Speaking from personal experience, groin injuries are the worst.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/959519https://brownsboard.com/post/959519Fri, 25 Sep 2020 20:24:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How did the Defense get so bad? on Fri, 25 Sep 2020 17:30:23 GMT]]> This is unfreaking believable. Greedy ruled out AGAIN and now Denzel Ward probably won't play with a random freaking groin injury. Coach said he's truly questionable, but I'm betting he's out because groin injuries take a while to heal and we'll definitely need Ward against Cowboys next week. Guess what THAT means? 

More Tavierre Thomas! AHHHHHH. 

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@flugel said:

Me too.  I was VERY impressed with Gustin!

Coach Stefanski was just talking about him in an interview. I'm SO glad he made the team and we didn't keep Chad Thomas. That guy drove me NUTS and I was furious when we drafted him. 

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@texasag1969 said:

Schobert already getting scorched in the 1st Q tonight. One horsecollar as they RB was already past him for a 1st down and then old man Fitzpatrick ran around him 

on a late run up the middle. Looked pretty damn foolish on that play.

I was surprised at the call. Yes, Joe got hold of the collar, but he released it almost as soon as he took hold whereas most calls come when the defender uses the collar to drag the ball carrier to the ground.

Otherwise... yup... lotsa tackles after a few yards gained... although did have one TFL in the 2nd Qtr.

Weird to see in "47".

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/959402https://brownsboard.com/post/959402Fri, 25 Sep 2020 01:56:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to How did the Defense get so bad? on Fri, 25 Sep 2020 00:58:27 GMT]]> Schobert already getting scorched in the 1st Q tonight. One horsecollar as they RB was already past him for a 1st down and then old man Fitzpatrick ran around him 

on a late run up the middle. Looked pretty damn foolish on that play.

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@the-gipper said:

Doesn't that cost for this year drop off....and be available again for next year and beyond

We have "32.8" in cap space for one year but our salaries are only 2.5 under ongoing salary cap. So if that's a question... No.  Our ongoing cap space is no more than 2.5.

The 32.8 is a fantasy only good for one season.. once it's used, it's gone. So instead of thinking of it as "space" -- think of it as an ability to resign a few first-rounders [bonus can be taken in one season rather than spread out] that other teams don't have.  Note, of course: if that 2.5 remains unused through 2020... next season's "cap" would become 35.3! Oh, the humanity!

If you got a $50k one-time bonus from work, would your household budget assume you were going to get that bonus every year from now until you die?

"Cap Space" is an accounting gimmick; the metric of [ [2020 salary cap]-[2020 cap liabilities] ] is what you should look at.

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