@vagitron said:

The browns as a whole just need to get better and healthier and for fucks sake stick with a coach for more than a couple seasons.

Absolutely. 

The Steelers have talented players, of course, but most importantly they have a stable system in place that allows them to bring in new players and coaches and keep rolling. They are not forced to "reinvent the wheel" every two seasons like they are in Cleveland. Its why some nobody named Spillane can come in and replace Bush and make plays all over the place. It's why they can let guys go to free agency and keep chugging along. 

@tiamat63 said:

Ribs, depending on area, affect lats (dorsal) which can run up into your posterior delts (shoulder)

Yep.  I like Baker.  Frankly I always have liked Baker and I think we will get better.  He just needs continuity and a fleshed out system.  

"Mama, didn't raise no wuss" was a great line from him before this game.  He just got knocked around because as i said leading into this our pass rush is relentless.  Cam knocked him pretty good at one point and that was pretty much when he was done for the game despite staying in.

@vagitron said:

Fucked up ribs effects all of it.  Think of the torso torque when throwing a nfl pass, it's definitely not helpings bakers cause.  The silver lining with baker is he has all the moxie in the world.  He isn't going to easily lose his confidence.  The browns as a whole just need to get better and healthier and for fucks sake stick with a coach for more than a couple seasons.

Ribs, depending on area, affect lats (dorsal) which can run up into your posterior delts (shoulder)

@texasag1969 said:

I still wonder about the possible arm injury with Baker.

Fucked up ribs effects all of it.  Think of the torso torque when throwing a nfl pass, it's definitely not helpings bakers cause.  The silver lining with baker is he has all the moxie in the world.  He isn't going to easily lose his confidence.  The browns as a whole just need to get better and healthier and for fucks sake stick with a coach for more than a couple seasons.

@texasag1969 said:

I still wonder about the possible arm injury with Baker.

after rewinding several times Bakes last attempted throw? I can't disagree with this at all ^^ where's he taking the shot? Shoulder or Ribs?.. they certainly ain't tell'in.. Hoping we see FULL* on today's Injury report ?

@gumby73 said:

I'm expecting* Stef will announce today that Case Keenum will be starting in Pittsburgh.. .yikes!.?..  would this not be the Stef move to make Tomlin's head explode? Why not even wait on announcing it? Oh!!   let's say, how bout waiting until game time? Baker becomes emergency back-up QB for only Steeler week..  

ok, now where's my meds & a pot of coffee? ? Wake up! I too, had a dream...

I still wonder about the possible arm injury with Baker.

ok, now where's my meds & a pot of coffee? ? Wake up! I too, had a dream...

@footbalfan1962 said:

I think this year is different but how many times over the years have we seen post like this only to have the Browns fall apart...lets take it one game at a time

I'll move up from 6-10 to 7-9.??

@the-gipper said:

Per what an announcer said on ESPN,   the Browns supposedly have the 2d easiest remaining schedule.  I assume that is on the basis of their future opponents current records.  Here is that schedule:

It looks to me that we have a combination of game against, yes, the worst teams going,  but also games against the Best teams going.

Winless Giants and Jets.  1 win Jags, Eagles Texans, Bengals.

Who here does not expect the Browns to win each and every one of those games?  Should we not expect  6 more victories in those games (which would give us 10 wins!!)

I think this year is different but how many times over the years have we seen post like this only to have the Browns fall apart...lets take it one game at a time

@nero said:

Good thing about Bell is that you can tell him: 'OK, we pay you 500,000 this year, you work behind the best run Oline and we'll see next offseason.'
 

Similar to the Hunt situation here, signed him for two right before Chubb went down.

But he is a Cleveland kids living out his dream.......for 2/$15M.    

I'd say give him a flier, he might choose Cleveland because of the OL and opportunity.  Pats may not go for him bc they've put a lot of draft capital into RB recently.

@browns149 said:

10-6 and a wildcard game

This is a big pivitol week,  the early Thursday line is CLE +3 on the road having started at CLE +5.5 so the money says this is pretty much an even contest on a neutral field....... we'll see about that at Sunday at 1 pm in Pittsburgh.

If the BROWNS can pull this off at 5-1 and a tiebreaker over Pittsburgh with the big AFCN game vs Pittsburgh January 3rd in Cleveland, whoa.  At the start of the 4:25 games 10-6 looks very doable almost a lock with their remaining schedule.

Lose this game and still be 4-2 and have a decent chance at the postseason.

GO BROWNS, oh my God I'm getting that crazy feeling again before a CLE/PIT game what can it be...... baby !  

Just read it for yourself:.    https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/?s=789

@neo said:

The Browns have exceeded my expectations so far, let's see if they can stay healthy . I hope Chubb doesn't turn out to be made of glass, he has been pretty durable so far, but RB's take a beating. Knowing Hunt still has that groin problem doesn't make me feel any better. Do we take a flier on Le'veon Bell if Chubb remains sidelined?

Bell has been a problem child with two teams now- and we don't need the distraction as long as Hunt stays 1\2 healthy. Vag is right on Belichick and the Patriots having a way with head cases. He misbehaves there he's gone as fast as you can say um you know- that WR with a drug problem who used to play for the Browns....  

@the-gipper said:

Bell is free to sign anywhere.   And as I understand, the team that signs him just has to pay him the Veteran minimum.  The Jets have to pick up the rest of his salary for this year. 

I would take him over say, Dontrel Hilliard. 

He's supposedly picking between 5 teams and Cleveland isn't one.  Reports suggest: Miami, KC, New England, Las Vegas and Chicago. I think he's going to end up in New England or KC but KC really doesn't need a running back and NE does.  Harris is still unproven. KC on the other hand of that group gives him the best chance most likely at a super bowl despite the Chiefs losing to the raiders.

@the-gipper said:

Bell is free to sign anywhere.   And as I understand, the team that signs him just has to pay him the Veteran minimum.  The Jets have to pick up the rest of his salary for this year. 

I would take him over say, Dontrel Hilliard. 

I say bring him in. We're 4-1, the goal is to keep the ball rolling. Nobody knows how long Chubb in going to be out or how long it will take for Hunt to go down. We should be shooting for the playoffs so bringing in another weapon makes sense. Bell is only 28 and the reason the Jets released him is because he didn't fit. 

@neo said:

The Browns have exceeded my expectations so far, let's see if they can stay healthy . I hope Chubb doesn't turn out to be made of glass, he has been pretty durable so far, but RB's take a beating. Knowing Hunt still has that groin problem doesn't make me feel any better. Do we take a flier on Le'veon Bell if Chubb remains sidelined?

Bell is free to sign anywhere.   And as I understand, the team that signs him just has to pay him the Veteran minimum.  The Jets have to pick up the rest of his salary for this year. 

I would take him over say, Dontrel Hilliard. 

@the-gipper said:

Per what an announcer said on ESPN,   the Browns supposedly have the 2d easiest remaining schedule.  I assume that is on the basis of their future opponents current records.  Here is that schedule:

It looks to me that we have a combination of game against, yes, the worst teams going,  but also games against the Best teams going.

Winless Giants and Jets.  1 win Jags, Eagles Texans, Bengals.

Who here does not expect the Browns to win each and every one of those games?  Should we not expect  6 more victories in those games (which would give us 10 wins!!)

But....they also play undefeated Steelers (twice)  and Titans.  One loss Ravens.  And the two loss Raiders who just took down the defending Champ Chiefs. 

Fact is, we may not win all those games vs. the "bad teams"  nor lose all those games against the "good teams". 

So, what are your expectations at this point? 

And the Tit-tians just took down the 4-0 Bills....  This upcoming game with the Squealers is HUGE!!!!  My nephews have no confidence....