@sdbacker80 said:

We need some pass rushing mavens with the scheme we run (4 coming/7 dropping).  And we have Garrett and Clayborn.  
 

We have tremendous needs to fill on defense.  I wouldn’t be opposed to bringing in a Stud DTackle in the first round that can get to the QB. 

from the looks of it, they can find one in the third round. Maybe the fourth... need blue chip S, CB, or LB the first two rounds.

We have tremendous needs to fill on defense.  I wouldn’t be opposed to bringing in a Stud DTackle in the first round that can get to the QB. 

@unsympathetic said:

I was surprised at Gustin's demonstration of actually potentially being able to hold up as part of a rotation.. Taylor and Gustin may not be future hall-of-famers, but you could do a lot worse with Ogun and Taylor at your DI 3&4 spot. 

Sure, we need another edge just like every other team, but DI of Billings/Richardson/Ogun/Taylor and Edge of Garrett/Vernon/Gustin/2021 Draftee might just work..  Unfortunate that both Thomas and Elliot seem to be round3 busts moving forward.

Glad you're seeing the light. 

Sure, we need another edge just like every other team, but DI of Billings/Richardson/Ogun/Taylor and Edge of Garrett/Vernon/Gustin/2021 Draftee might just work..  Unfortunate that both Thomas and Elliot seem to be round3 busts moving forward. 

I know Berry wasn't responsible, but round 3 is too high for a complete whiff.  We're still suffering from the fecal picks of 

2017/2 [kizer] and the entire draft classes of 2016 and 2015.. 2014, of course, is The Draft Which Shall Not Be Named.

@unsympathetic said:

Offensive rankings

Defensive rankings

Surprises: Vincent Taylor 67.9, Phillips 66.8 Taki 69.9, Gustin 70.0, Hodge 77.9, Hooper 70.3

Surprised in a bad way: Wilson 53.5, Vernon 39.2, Ogun 52.8, Hunt 49.8

Surprises, at least the first two, shouldn't have been surprises at all.

Taylor and Phillips put some really great tape out there Sunday.  Flashes of potential you want to see from your young players that indicates whom you're rolling with in future rosters.

As for Vernon's grade...

PFF watches every snap. Yes, he made a couple splash plays that grabbed TV-viewing fans attention, but likely they saw a lot more plays... run and pass... where he got whipped.

OL and DL grading are the least subjective of all the positions.

@ibleedbrown said:

I recall one sack Vernon had where he fell down right in front of Rudolph, and Rudolph was facing him, then he got back up and tackled him. I’m not sure how Rudolph missed him though. I’d be curious how pff scored that play. 

Not just tackled him, straight up PLANTED that bitch. Honestly, Vernon should have swatted the ball because Rudolph didn't even see him. The ball ALMOST came out, but Vernon could've easily chopped his arms and gotten the rock. Dammit man...I'm going to really miss Vernon. 

@gumby73 said:

They gotta be kidding ^^ ... Folks pay honest money to these every play scoring geeks... I'll continue to trust my own eyes thank you 

I recall one sack Vernon had where he fell down right in front of Rudolph, and Rudolph was facing him, then he got back up and tackled him. I’m not sure how Rudolph missed him though. I’d be curious how pff scored that play. 

@unsympathetic said:

Offensive rankings

Defensive rankings

Surprises: Vincent Taylor 67.9, Phillips 66.8 Taki 69.9, Gustin 70.0, Hodge 77.9, Hooper 70.3

Surprised in a bad way: Wilson 53.5, Vernon 39.2, Ogun 52.8, Hunt 49.8

Mack Wilson is so bad. I mean, he's like the worst linebacker I've ever seen. He literally bounces off people and can't take a correct angle to save his effing life. 

@unsympathetic said:

Surprised in a bad way:          Vernon 39.2    (what?)

They gotta be kidding ^^ ... Folks pay honest money to these every play scoring geeks... I'll continue to trust my own eyes thank you 

Defensive rankings

Surprises: Vincent Taylor 67.9, Phillips 66.8 Taki 69.9, Gustin 70.0, Hodge 77.9, Hooper 70.3

Surprised in a bad way: Wilson 53.5, Vernon 39.2, Ogun 52.8, Hunt 49.8

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dispatch.com/amp/4008228001

@tour2ma said:

Now that's what you call a sound career move...

I honestly thought Haslam would have spoken for a bit longer. He said a word or two and bounced. I'm sure this game ball was special...but can you IMAGINE what it would be like to get NEXT week's game ball? 

That's where my imagination is hanging out these days. Knocking those assholes out of the playoffs and catapulting us into the stratosphere of fan mania. 

@the-gipper said:

They have him down as doing two shows that same day.  I recall being out there practically all day and night.   We were right up near the stage.  No recollection whatsoever of Quicksilver or Dr  Hook or Foghat.    I don't know where that is coming from.  That has to be  a different date, different city.  Completely off. 

This is indeed confusing unless there was a list minute change.  I show song lineups for both August 5 dates.  But maybe you should remember this:

This is a great archive site.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

It says the date is 1990.

That's part of the next column showing number of concerts per year.

The 1972 is the correct date for the rubber bowl.

@the-gipper said:

They have him down as doing two shows that same day.  I recall being out there practically all day and night.   We were right up near the stage.  No recollection whatsoever of Quicksilver or Dr  Hook or Foghat.    I don't know where that is coming from.  That has to be  a different date, different city.  Completely off. 

It says the date is 1990.

@mjp28 said:

You have a good memory there Gip in fact it was August 5, 1972 where it shows two concerts that day at the rubber bowl but they occasionally did early/late concerts in one day.

Alice Cooper is indeed the businessman doing 2,960 concerts !  See the screenshots below or the link for everyone.  I know I saw him back then but will look it up later.  https://www.concertarchives.org/bands/alice-cooper?page=56#concert-table

They have him down as doing two shows that same day.  I recall being out there practically all day and night.   We were right up near the stage.  No recollection whatsoever of Quicksilver or Dr  Hook or Foghat.    I don't know where that is coming from.  That has to be  a different date, different city.  Completely off. 

@tour2ma said:

J Geils.... World's Greatest Party Band...

Saw them in CLE Public Auditorium circa 1972.

For some reason I'm having trouble finding j geils band, only got this combo concert.

@the-gipper said:

I think they backed up Alice Cooper at the Rubber Bowl concert I attended along with Dr. John.   Also  1972 I believe. 

You have a good memory there Gip in fact it was August 5, 1972 where it shows two concerts that day at the rubber bowl but they occasionally did early/late concerts in one day.

Alice Cooper is indeed the businessman doing 2,960 concerts !  See the screenshots below or the link for everyone.  I know I saw him back then but will look it up later.  https://www.concertarchives.org/bands/alice-cooper?page=56#concert-table

@tour2ma said:

J Geils.... World's Greatest Party Band...

Saw them in CLE Public Auditorium circa 1972.

I think they backed up Alice Cooper at the Rubber Bowl concert I attended along with Dr. John.   Also  1972 I believe. 

@calfoxwc said:

https://www.brownsnation.com/browns-troll-juju-smith-schuster-with-tiktok-dance-after-win/

sorry - I keep posting a link, and it's text, until Paste it back in again. Very strange, dammit.

@vambo said:

Kevin Stefanski gave the game ball to Browns owner Jimmy Haslam

Now that's what you call a sound career move...