Mitch McConnell's Office Tells Sean Hannity That the NYT Story On Mitch McConnell Supporting Impeachment Is Wrong; McConnell Delays Senate Trial Until After Inauguration Day

@tour2ma said:

I think he's going the self-pardon route. Can't trust Pence and not enough time to fire Pence and install a new, reliable VP.

No. The President can not fire the Vice President. Unlike the cabinet (e.g., Secretary of State, Attorney General, Secretary of Defense, etc.), and the White House Staff (e.g., Chief-of-Staff, Press Secretary, etc.) the office of the Vice President, his term and the requirements for his removal from office are all established explicitly in Article II of the Constitution.

@hoorta said:

Well regarding "The Biggest Loser". He lost the presidential election by a landslide, lost 60+ court cases. Lost two Georgia Senate seats. Lost control of a mob (well, maybe he didn't try).  

And has a very bleak future ahead of him, no wonder he wanted to keep hiding behind that presidential seal. He's in deep shit starting January 21st- and he knows it.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/14/trumps-future-looks-rotten/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F2e7f751%2F600075899d2fda0efbaedc48%2F5ed831dfade4e276b3feacec%2F18%2F70%2F600075899d2fda0efbaedc48

Deutsche Bank will no longer give him loans either. Breaking their ties with him. That also means they will fully cooperate with NY courts/prosecutors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/deutsche-bank-cuts-ties-with-trump-after-capitol-attack/ar-BB1cGSOY

And also in the article: "Separately, New York's Signature Bank said it is closing Trump's personal accounts and calling for his resignation. The bank is pledging to no longer do business with any members of Congress who objected to the certification of President-elect Joe Biden's election last week."

@tour2ma said:

I think I may have someone who agrees with you...

I hope we can all agree that's really out there...

Well regarding "The Biggest Loser". He lost the presidential election by a landslide, lost 60+ court cases. Lost two Georgia Senate seats. Lost control of a mob (well, maybe he didn't try).  

And has a very bleak future ahead of him, no wonder he wanted to keep hiding behind that presidential seal. He's in deep shit starting January 21st- and he knows it.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/14/trumps-future-looks-rotten/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F2e7f751%2F600075899d2fda0efbaedc48%2F5ed831dfade4e276b3feacec%2F18%2F70%2F600075899d2fda0efbaedc48

@axe said:

We all lost.

I think I may have someone who agrees with you...

Texas A&M Professor Fired After Saying He Would ‘Hang Trump By Biden’s Entrails’ and ‘Play Soccer’ With ‘Jeff Sessions’ Head’

Texas A&M Professor Fired After Saying He Would ‘Hang Trump By Biden’s Entrails’ and ‘Play Soccer’ With ‘Jeff Sessions’ Head’ (msn.com)

I hope we can all agree that's really out there...

@hoorta said:

I know more about wine than Trump knows about politics.     

That leaves way too high of a ceiling for Trump...

@hoorta said:

I'm waiting to see if Donnie will try the self pardon gambit. To paranoid to resign because he's afraid he pissed off Pence enough that he won't pardon him.  

Well QAnon Shaman wants Trump to pardon him. Stay turned.    

Just heard the latter...

I think he's going the self-pardon route. Can't trust Pence and not enough time to fire Pence and install a new, reliable VP.

@axe said:

We all lost.. You just aren't smart enough to understand that yet..

I'm smart enough to know a certified loony wannabe Dictator masquerading as a President is thankfully gone in less than a week.  With another Impeachment albatross hanging around his neck.  

If your primary criteria of how great Trump was is how well your 401 is doing- yeah, I understand. But there's plenty of folks out there already saying Donnie will go down as the worst president in US history. He was already near the bottom on a lot of lists before he pulled his election fraud gambit- and that little Capitol insurrection. 

@jbluhm86 said:

DTJ is an intriguing option,

If he's able to...

DC attorney general wants to interview Donald Trump Jr. as part of Trump inaugural funds abuse probe (msn.com)

There's always Eric...

EDIT: Nevermind.... turns out a convicted felon can run for Pres, VP, Senate, House. How fucked up is that?

@axe said:

If Biden had a lick of smarts, he'd pardon Trump.

I'm waiting to see if Donnie will try the self pardon gambit. Too paranoid to resign because he's afraid he pissed off Pence enough that he won't pardon him.  

Well QAnon Shaman wants Trump to pardon him. Stay turned.    

@hoorta said:

Aw, such a sore loser...   

We all lost.. You just aren't smart enough to understand that yet..

@axe said:

I guess this last election proves that point.

Have another bottle of wine..

Aw, such a sore loser...  As to wine? Sure, I think I'll have a glass of port before I head to bed.  FWIW, I used to teach a Wine Appreciation class at the University of Dayton. I know more about wine than Trump knows about politics.     

@calfoxwc said:

but that is what Hoorta wants - me to cross the line so he can boot me, and the rest of us off, one by one.

It's happening openly in the msm, twitter, facebook, congress...

and it seems very much that he enlisted some of his friends to come here and belligerently help him.

not buyin what you all are trying to be sellin. The left knows they've bitched on purpose for four years...they don't want to allow it to bounce back at them. Have a nice day.

And you did cross the line deleting and reposting a thread that I responded to.  SNOWFLAKE. Maybe I can just start editing your garbage with this...  "The content of this post is not factual and is disputed"  

Can't handle a little opposing opinion- what would you do if 20 or so Squad members invaded? And started posting 5-6 articles from the Washington Post and NY Times every day? You'd have a total meltdown....

@calfoxwc said:

EXACTLY. Tour can't answer, Hoorta can't answer. They can't name one thing their joe the schmoe biden did FOR AMERICA in 47 years...and they won't admit the hundreds of good/GREAT things PRESIDENT TRUMP DID DO FOR AMERICA in only 4 years.

    they mad.

Yawn, still suffering from BDS.... 

@hoorta said:

One thing for sure over the last 20 years the average IQ of the voting populace has dropped around 20 points. 

I guess this last election proves that point.

Have another bottle of wine..

@axe said:

You reap what you sow.

You know she's the QAnon chick- right?  And about as nutty as Buffalo Bob.  (QAnon Shaman) who, incidentally just threw Trump under the bus with his defense- "he wanted us there".   

One thing for sure over the last 20 years the average IQ of the voting populace has dropped around 20 points. 

@calfoxwc said:

they won't admit the hundreds of good/GREAT

Don't you owe me 100?

Been a while ago, so you should have had plenty of time to prep a list.

@calfoxwc said:

In conclusion, little toursies, yes, they had a vote. The entire country knows it was a political stunt. It means nothing unless the Senate votes to take action in a trial.

and they are not going to. Have a nice day being a lefty political hatemonger.

Yup.... no game...

As for the Senate trial... care to make it interesting?

@jbluhm86 said:

1. Ok, the vote is recorded. What does said vote actually accomplish in the way of removing Trump from office?
2. Republicans in the Senate won't vote to remove him.
3. The shortest impeachment trial was Trump's 1st one and it took 21 day; Trump is out of office anyway in less than 6 days, so - again - what does all of this Kabuki theater from the Democrats actually accomplish?

1. How else do you propose to hold Trump accountable?

2. Actually it's not a certainty that some Republican Senators will not vote to convict. While I don't hold out hope that McConnell would vote to convict, there are a half dozen or so that either definitely will or likely will... at present.

Now you'll say, as you said before, that 2/3rds, or 67, votes to convict are ungettable. I agree the odds are very low of that occurring... at present.

Why at present? As more and more details, including video, emerge. As more arrests are made and more of the arrested make their motivation(s) and motivator(s) known, the evidence will mount. This delay that McConnell has imposed gives time for evidence to be developed.

And now some of that evidence appears to be pointing towards the complicity of members of Congress.

3. It puts every Senator on record, if they vote. The House members are already on record. I wrote elsewhere on the politics of this, so I won't reiterate that now... especially since there's something far more interesting to bring up.

In an Impeachment trial it does take a 2/3rds majority to convict. However, it does not take 67 votes because nowhere is it stated how many Senators have to participate in the trial. Thus my "if they vote" comment above.

The only way for a Senator to avoid having their vote recorded is to not vote.

If one does not, the conviction threshold falls from 67 to 66. If three more opt out, it's 65, etc., etc., dropping the requited total one more for every three that opt out.

One last thing...

Impeachment, even one followed by a Senate conviction, does not prevent the person tried from running for President again. To do that requires a third, separate on whether to bar the person from holding office in the future. This vote only requires a simple majority to pass.

https://apnews.com/article/barring-trump-holding-office-again-f477c7ddc7ad0cc91a5fb86d12b007f0

@canton-dawg said:

I agree, she might have a “D” next to her name but the negative press from the MSM will work against her.

She’s not like the rest of the Dems.

She was for open borders and free healthcare for illegals, she also said she believed women until Biden was accused then it was different.