@unsympathetic said:

I shall take all my acknowledgements for being the first to link Sutterer's injury video on the first page of this thread!

Someone on the internet was wrong and this has never happened before.

To be fair, sometimes is easy to miss links when you post them like that, but it also contributed that later we started talking about Mahomes and at that moment your comment was under the radar. 

Someone on the internet was wrong and this has never happened before.

@nero said:

I'm not having none of this. That's a lie. 

@the-gipper said:

I know I did call him a troll...just maybe not there.  And no, I certainly would not sugar coat that. 

I'm not having none of this. That's a lie. 

@nero said:

You edited that comment. You called him a troll literally, no sugar coating like the edited comment appears. That's why I answered that way. 

I know I did call him a troll...just maybe not there.  And no, I certainly would not sugar coat that. 

He is a troll in the sense that he is a fan of another team that appears on the Browns Board.  And Yes, that is the way I define it.   Perhaps I use it more in the "fishing sense".....of dragging a line, trying to catch something rather than the "ugly creature under a bridge" type of troll.   

At our next tailgate....which takes place under a bridge, I have suggested he come and cater it because he runs some kind of a hot dog stand in Delaware OH.    Then he can be both!!

Right in there under one of those spans is where we hold them.    I used to go to Delaware OH  on a regular basis for Kiwanis events....not so much any more...but I would try his food.....as long he put the sour grapes on the side. 

@the-gipper said:

I didn't edit my comments as far as I remember.   I did call Vag a troll....because in a certain parlance that is what he is.  So, I am not sure what you are referring to.  

You edited that comment. You called him a troll literally, no sugar coating like the edited comment appears. That's why I answered that way. 

@nero said:

Uh oh. What did you do here? Stop editing your comments to change the narrative. Now that your comment is edited my next comment is misleading. 

Just for the record, on this post I quoted you called Vag a troll.

And that is why I answered with this. 

I find so sketchy editing a comment that way that I felt the need to point it out. 

I didn't edit my comments as far as I remember.   I did call Vag a troll....because in a certain parlance that is what he is.  So, I am not sure what you are referring to.  

@nickers said:

You're right... Kevin Stefanski and Joe Woods did...

yeah steph made some bad decisions with time mgmt....but i like him...he will learn from this....he's not like every other coach we have had....which were all losers...he went up against andy reid....who is a hall of fame coach......now woods on the other hand.....eeeeeeyuk.....that all i have to say....

@kvoethe said:

Who is blaming him?  I liked the effort.  Our defense lost the game.

you are right.......no one is afraid of our d....overall, they stink....

@bobpound said:

I am going on the Higgins bandwagon. I will 100% support his effort to make that TD. Not 1 in a 100 times would that result in a touchback... 

Rashard. You keep your head up!!! Browns Nation loves you and your effort to make that TD..... There were at least a dozens points that we could have won that game and your mistake was just one of them. Baker's INT was inexcusable. The fact that our Defense couldn't make Hennie miss on a 3rd and long...

Keep your head up and I for one hope you our are 3rd receiver next year behind Landry and OBJ.....   Great season.. See you all at the Draft!!!!!!

BobPound!

@bobpound said:

I am going on the Higgins bandwagon. I will 100% support his effort to make that TD. Not 1 in a 100 times would that result in a touchback... 

Rashard. You keep your head up!!! Browns Nation loves you and your effort to make that TD..... There were at least a dozens points that we could have won that game and your mistake was just one of them. Baker's INT was inexcusable. The fact that our Defense couldn't make Hennie miss on a 3rd and long...

Keep your head up and I for one hope you our are 3rd receiver next year behind Landry and OBJ.....   Great season.. See you all at the Draft!!!!!!

BobPound!

i don't think he did either...however. and i know its tough to do because its a split second decision .....we have kareem hunt who is a beast inside the 5yd line....why take the chance on  a fumble, which by the way...happened......i don't know....i don't like any reciever trying to stretch for the pylon....first thing i think of is a fumble.....i don't know what our reciever coach teaches these wide outs to do in that situation....its a tough call.....

@the-gipper said:

Then Block yourself.   We define a Troll as some asshole fan from another team that comes in to stir shit...and we don't care what you believe that definition may be.  So, block yourself.

Uh oh. What did you do here? Stop editing your comments to change the narrative. Now that your comment is edited my next comment is misleading. 

Just for the record, on this post I quoted you called Vag a troll.

@nero said:

Vag is not a troll and it is even more enjoyable talking to him than some "Browns' fans" around here. 

And that is why I answered with this. 

I find so sketchy editing a comment that way that I felt the need to point it out. 

@the-cysko-kid said:

What I want to know is if Vag has adopted his given name on other forums he's on? Vagitron surely sounds like someone i'd want to hang out with more than rorbotron.

Actually, the story is that  Z used to have him as "Homotron".....but in an attempt to uphold his honor and to be more descriptive of his personality I suggested to Z that  he does not really act like  a Homo,  he acts more like a little pussy.  So Z changed it to its current incarnation. 

@vagitron said:

I don't give one single shit about how gipper feels about me. 

What makes you think anyone cares how you think or feel? 

He wants me to be a troll so he can run around old man flexing in the mirror. I gave him a purpose and now that he's on ignore he feels lost. I'm here for info and I like talking with some of you.  Gipper can't handle that I guess. ?

Narcissist much?  I give you not one thought other than when I see one of your posts.

And here is some information for you....since that is what you want:    The Cleveland Browns are a better football team than the Pittsburgh Steelers.  Absorb that information

After reading my drunken posts, I will stand by them.. This is not the "fumble" part 2. It was a fluke play that called into question a ridiculous rule that hopefully will be re-considered this year...

As some internet talking head said for days before this game.. We were playing with house money. We weren't expected to be good this year. We sure as hell weren't supposed to make the playoff and we sure as hell, sure as hell weren't going to Beat Pittsburgh in Pittsburg in the opening round. And we sure as hell weren't supposed to take the Reigning Super Bowl champs to the literal last minutes of the game...  So we won on so many levels already this year... The Fumble was a choke by a player who rarely chocked.  On a team that was destined to make the Super Bowl that year.. No comparison. 

As to the Mahomes injury.. I am not sure if it has been discussed as to how injured Patrick had been for some time before he left the game. If I had to guess he was suffering from back spasms starting back in the 2nd quarter. And our defensive scheme shifted gears when our DC realized he was hobbled. We were sending a 5th man at him even if it meant going man on man and getting burned.  Just so we could put a body on him and knock him down. And it worked, even before he went out of the game.. I have no idea what possessed him or his coach to put him in a position to run that ball like he did... He or his coach took him out of that game.. We just did the work for them... It was clean but brutal...

But then again YOU ARE NOT A RUNNING BACK.. And this is why running QB's do not last in this league. Both Lamar and Patrick were taken out of their respective games by hard hits.  So maybe this will call into question this move towards QB's that both run and throw well. But always seem to fall back on the run when the need arises and almost inevitably leads to an injury.

Go Browns!! For the last time this season... Can't wait for next year.. Can't believe I am saying this and not being sarcastic  

@footbalfan1962 said:

I take it you failed History class

I take that you should fuck off dude with 59 posts. 

@vagitron said:

?

If I were the troll some make me out to be I SHOULD be in here talking shit.  It's just not my style and with gipper on ignore I've found my brownsboard zen.  I might block the other mouth breathers too. 

I have never had a problem with you.

@dutch-oven said:

I never learned how to properly tie a noose.

I'm not a Republican. 

I take it you failed History class

@nero said:

I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list. 

No. 

Anyone who doesn't bring good arguments and doesn't read what is being said/answered to simply state some proudful thoughts to just make people angry and feast on their alleged superiority is a troll. 

I'm up for other team's fans joining in to share their viewpoints. 

I'm here to get information and have some interesting discussions about a team and sport I love. I'm not here to jerk off with a bunch of thoughtless fans thinking alike or to stand people just wanting to spit out whatever comes from their ass so they can get people angry or/and tired so they feel good about themselves. 

I don't give one single shit about how gipper feels about me.  He wants me to be a troll so he can run around old man flexing in the mirror. I gave him a purpose and now that he's on ignore he feels lost. I'm here for info and I like talking with some of you.  Gipper can't handle that I guess. ?

@tour2ma said:

OK... I did and watched the Dr. Whats-his-face video ATOM posted... and I can see where the brow of his helmet could  have hit the ground, but in the low angle shot the impact is just out of frame.

Also I watched his neck angle and there is no change all the way thru the play. Also no turf in the top of the facebar... only a couple blades of grass flying...

I accept that there is no other explanation... not even a stroke ... but still don't see the impact.

Slow mo and full speed look different.  All i know is something happened because it looked like he took an uppercut from mike tyson. 

@vagitron said:

Go watch it, his head goes straight down into the ground.  Hard. 

OK... I did and watched the Dr. Whats-his-face video ATOM posted... and I can see where the brow of his helmet could  have hit the ground, but in the low angle shot the impact is just out of frame.

Also I watched his neck angle and there is no change all the way thru the play. Also no turf in the top of the facebar... only a couple blades of grass flying...

I accept that there is no other explanation... not even a stroke ... but still don't see the impact.

@tour2ma said:

lmao...

You know we can fix that!

Miss you as we might, you will be exacting too great of a price if you persist in this kind of shenanigans*...

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*Look that word up you lil shit...

I know the word shenanigans. It's phonetically interesting. 

@nero said:

I'm just quoting this to bitch on Dutch's and Tour's ignore list. 

lmao...

You know we can fix that!

Miss you as we might, you will be exacting too great of a price if you persist in this kind of shenanigans*...

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*Look that word up you lil shit...