@the-gipper said:

Ah...more Star Wars references.   Z is gonna love this. 

That's his prerogative

@the-cysko-kid said:

Palpatine -9 letters 

Belichick -9 letters 

Brady - 5 letters

Vader -5 letters 

Illuminati confirmed. 

@the-cysko-kid said:

Who was most responsible for the continued domination of the empire? Palpatine or Vader? 

It's f'n Vader, obviously. He's the guy that would go out there and force choke a m'fer into submission. 

It's not that palpatine or belichick is nothing without Vader. He can still cook up some schemes. Irs just that without Darth Brady no one actually fears him. 

Ah...more Star Wars references.   Z is gonna love this. 

Belichick -9 letters 

Brady - 5 letters

Vader -5 letters 

Illuminati confirmed. 

It's f'n Vader, obviously. He's the guy that would go out there and force choke a m'fer into submission. 

It's not that palpatine or belichick is nothing without Vader. He can still cook up some schemes. Irs just that without Darth Brady no one actually fears him. 

@ballpeen said:

It doesn't take a genius to figure out it is always about players.  Name a coach who did anything with crap players?

Joe Gibbs won some Super Bowls with some crap QBs. 

@ballpeen said:

It doesn't take a genius to figure out it is always about players.  Name a coach who did anything with crap players?

Plus someone had to identify exactly what they got in that scarecrow taken in the 6th who looked like he'd never seen a weight room in his life or even looked like he was in any kind of shape to play pro ball. Identify and then work with him to get the end product. 

 From Wiki: 

 Patriots owner Robert Kraft recalled: "I still have the image of Tom Brady coming down the old Foxboro Stadium steps with that pizza box under his arm, a skinny beanpole, and when he introduced himself to me and said 'Hi Mr. Kraft,' he was about to say who he was, but I said 'I know who you are, you're Tom Brady. You're our sixth round draft choice."

@the-gipper said:

I guess that settles that.

"That" being:    who was most responsible for the Patriots run....Belichick or Brady.

I had always come down on the side of Brady.    I think this vindicates that position. 

It doesn't take a genius to figure out it is always about players.  Name a coach who did anything with crap players?

See this from just this past October 8th: 

For the past 53 years, George Halas has held the record as the oldest person to ever serve as a head coach in an NFL game, but that's going to change on Sunday when the Texans host the Jaguars. After firing Bill O'Brien on Monday, the Texans decided to replace him with interim coach Romeo Crennel, which is notable because it's Crennel who's going to break the record. 

When Houston's Week 5 games kicks off, Crennel is going to be 73 years and 112 days old, which means he's officially going to become the oldest head coach in NFL history. 

The current record is held by Halas, who was 72 years and 318 days old when he coached the final game of his career in December 1967. To put into perspective how rare it is to see a coach of Crennel's age on the sideline, just consider this: Since Halas' retirement, there has only been one coach who even came remotely close to catching him and that was Marv Levy, who was roughly eight months away from turning 73 when he coached his final game with the Buffalo Bills in December 1997. 

Although he's only been on the job for a few days, it looks like the 73-year-old Crennel is already starting to fit in with the younger guys in Houston. 

Though....note that, not including Romeo who was interim,  BB is not the oldest permanent HC in the NFL:

Pete Carroll isn't the oldest coach ever in NFL history, but he's getting close. The Seahawks head coach turned 69 on Sept. 15.

So Carroll is about 8 months older than Belichick. 

If they get Rodgers....that's another story.  

@tour2ma said:

62-73?

Really going to count his Browns time?

Yes...he WAS an NFL head coach here for 4 years. 

Plus someone need to show their math...

Got that data from ESPN

Really going to count his Browns time?

Plus someone need to show their math...

Fun fact...

Brady with Bill... 219-64 for a 77.4 win percentage...

Brady no Bill... 11-5 for a 68.8 win percentage.

@the-gipper said:

Bill is not a Bum.  No one really claims that.   But his record as an NFL coach without Tom Brady as his starting QB is  62-73.    As I have said, he can be a playoff caliber coach,  but he owes his championships and much of his reputation to one No. 12. 

(by the way....the guys from PTI, and other ESPN and other network commentators came to that same conclusion.)

Bill is a bum! And a CHEATER!

@texasag1969 said:

PEYTON

EDIT: I did not peak at the answer.

Answers given above. 

@the-gipper said:

Tom Brady  will have a chance to become only the third  QB in history to win a Championship with  2 teams.

Do you know the other 2?

Tom Brady will now also become the 4th QB to start a Super Bowl with 2 different teams.

Can you name the other 3? 

PEYTON

EDIT: I did not peak at the answer.

@tour2ma said:

... and Bill...

Bill is not a Bum.  No one really claims that.   But his record as an NFL coach without Tom Brady as his starting QB is  62-73.    As I have said, he can be a playoff caliber coach,  but he owes his championships and much of his reputation to one No. 12. 

(by the way....the guys from PTI, and other ESPN and other network commentators came to that same conclusion.)

@nickers said:

Cassel didn't win a sausage... End of story.. The Pats still had the better team and McDaniels callinin the plays...

... and Bill...

No Brady, no Gronk, the real butticheck head coach is revealed.

@tour2ma said:

2008... Pats go 10-5 with Cassel as their QB...... but they did have zero ties...

2009... Cassel becomes KC's starter and promptly goes 4-11.

2020:   BB's team goes under  .500

2020:  Tom Brady goes to the Super Bowl. 

@bob806 said:

Craig Morton ( Dallas, Denver)

Peyton Manning (Indy, Denver)

Can't think of the other 2 yet

Those are 2.

Answers below:

Tom Brady  will have a chance to become only the third  QB in history to win a Championship with  2 teams.

Do you know the other 2?

Peyton Manning. Colts and Broncos and Tobin Rote Lions/Chargers

Tom Brady will now also become the 4th QB to start a Super Bowl with 2 different teams.

Can you name the other 3? 

Peyton Manning,  Kurt Warner, Craig Morton...actually that is it...only 3 others. 

@5150k9 said:

Slow your roll Gip,. My god man, I know you’re probably gonna light me up with a whole bunch of six syllable words or whatever, but you’ve got to get a grip on yourself.

My roll is slow, and I certainly have a grip.  Why would you think otherwise?  

And not  6 syllable words:   1 syllable words:   Truth.  Peace!!

@tour2ma said:

2008... Pats go 10-5 with Cassel as their QB...... but they did have zero ties...

2009... Cassel becomes KC's starter and promptly goes 4-11.

Cassel didn't win a sausage... End of story.. The Pats still had the better team and McDaniels callinin the plays...