@ibleedbrown said:

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/q_are_we_not_men_the_origins_of_devos_theory_of_de-evolution

Good read on Devo’s early influences. There was a series of wild religious pamphlets written in the 1920s that touted the theory of de-evolution (in response to the theory of evolution of course) which is where the name stems from and some of their earlier work is based off.

I haven't read your link yet but I assume you mean jocko homo heaven bound 

@ibleedbrown said:

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/q_are_we_not_men_the_origins_of_devos_theory_of_de-evolution

Good read on Devo’s early influences. There was a series of wild religious pamphlets written in the 1920s that touted the theory of de-evolution (in response to the theory of evolution of course) which is where the name stems from and some of their earlier work is based off.

But, isn't it fair to say that  devolution may be just another form of  evolution to what seems to be a lesser species, but really is not?

Take birds that evolved from dinosaurs.  Birds are an apparent lower life form from dinosaurs, but is that really true?  They are certainly a much smaller, generally less intimidating life form,  but are they really inferior? I mean, most birds can fly where nearly no dinosaurs could.  That seems to me like a superior physiological trait than just being massive in size. 

And take the "Grey Aliens".    Some have surmised that they are not aliens at all....but actually  evolved...or devolved  humans  who have come back in time to study the origin  or our species.  They are seemingly  are a smaller, weaker physical form,  yet clearly if they are capable of time/space travel, they will be highly evolved intellectually.  

So, which is it? 

@the-cysko-kid said:

Devo was never a cover band as devo. It was always a performance art piece based on a sort of jokey theory one of the casale's came up with at kent state with another guy who was a founding member of the band but left before the mothersbaugh brothers got involved. I would consider them peers to the early new wave art house types like the talking heads. While the talking heads went on to have better careers in the late 70s when that scene was hitting it's groove at cbgb and max's kansas city Devo was a way more fully formed concept. Sadly they sort of flamed out after 'freedom of choice' in my opinion. Their first two albums were all time classics for me though. I prefer the early incarnation before the ziggurat hat days 

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/q_are_we_not_men_the_origins_of_devos_theory_of_de-evolution

Good read on Devo’s early influences. There was a series of wild religious pamphlets written in the 1920s that touted the theory of de-evolution (in response to the theory of evolution of course) which is where the name stems from and some of their earlier work is based off.

WSS

@the-cysko-kid said:

Devo was never a cover band as devo. It was always a performance art piece based on a sort of jokey theory one of the casale's came up with at kent state with another guy who was a founding member of the band but left before the mothersbaugh brothers got involved. I would consider them peers to the early new wave art house types like the talking heads. While the talking heads went on to have better careers in the late 70s when that scene was hitting it's groove at cbgb and max's kansas city Devo was a way more fully formed concept. Sadly they sort of flamed out after 'freedom of choice' in my opinion. Their first two albums were all time classics for me though. I prefer the early incarnation before the ziggurat hat days 

 We were playing out around that area quite a bit from 1970 on; that's not the way I remember it but it's possible I could be mistaken.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

Just an FYI I Devo did start out as a cover band but they weren't very good and didn't get many gigs. I will look this up to make sure I am not mistaken but I think there is some sort of a wink wink relationship between motherbaugh and Brian Eno  from whence came the clown suits and the novelty song which became a hit.

 But mark mothersbaugh is certainly an accomplished musician.

WSS

[Edit]  Nothing specific on the Web

Devo was never a cover band as devo. It was always a performance art piece based on a sort of jokey theory one of the casale's came up with at kent state with another guy who was a founding member of the band but left before the mothersbaugh brothers got involved. I would consider them peers to the early new wave art house types like the talking heads. While the talking heads went on to have better careers in the late 70s when that scene was hitting it's groove at cbgb and max's kansas city Devo was a way more fully formed concept. Sadly they sort of flamed out after 'freedom of choice' in my opinion. Their first two albums were all time classics for me though. I prefer the early incarnation before the ziggurat hat days 

@atom said:

Soundgarden  covers Devos Girl you want

also Fuck the rnr hall of fame

They care less about your opinion than you do theirs 

also Fuck the rnr hall of fame

@axe said:

Iron Maiden NOT being in the Hall is just plain stoopid.

Well, they are up this year......and the same thing can be said about any number of acts. 

@ibleedbrown said:

It’s probably a fuzzy a line with different people having different definitions on such things. At one point Jethro Tull won a grammy for best heavy metal album of the year.

Well, that was a farce.   I am sure it was a great album, but they were progressive, not heavy metal.  But I guess it is fair to say that the Grammy committee is as clueless as the RRHOF committee.  Why didn't they just have a "progressive rock"  category?   There are/were as many or more acts doing progressive rock as did  heavy metal. (and it is by far better music IMO)   I mean, Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis, King Crimson,  ELP,  Tull,  Procul Harum,  Rush I believe is considered prog rock. The Moody Blues,  Kansas,  ELO,  Roxy Music, Uriah Heep,  The Strawbs, Brian Eno  (Ambient Music is an offshoot of Prog rock, fair to say?), Tangerine Dream, Vangelis... Todd Rundgren certainly had his prog rock renderings  (Utopia) ,  Allan Parsons,  Argent BeBop Deluxe....a lot of Bowie certainly,   Blue Oyster Cult,  Golden Earring,  Journey I think is considered "progressive rock"  ,  Manfred Mann, Phish?    Queen...by all means,  Al Stewart,  Styx, Supertramp Tears for Fears,  Asia,   Toto,  Tool,  Traffic, The Tubes,  Zappa and even some stuff by both Deep Purple and  Led Zeppelin could fall into "progressive".  The progenitors of "progressive rock"...as they were for so much is probably The Beatles.  Sgt. Pepper?  The White Album?  Absolutely.   And with them were the Yardbirds. 

@the-gipper said:

Fair enough. 

I could never tell, back in the early 70s, if something was considered "heavy metal"  (probably still cannot).     I had even at one point thought of Alice Cooper,  ZZ Top and Foghat as "heavy metal".  Don't necessarily think  they fit there now.

By the way....what is "heavy metal" if it is not "hard rock"? 

It’s probably a fuzzy a line with different people having different definitions on such things. At one point Jethro Tull won a grammy for best heavy metal album of the year.

@ibleedbrown said:

I agree with you on Devo.

I’m not a huge heavy metal guy, but l have a few songs and bands l like amongst the genre. Sabbath is probably the other band that could be in the running for the most iconic label. Metalica is probably the most famous. Zeppelin l would label more hard rock, but not metal.

Death Metal is it’s own sub genre, probably the most iconic being Slayer. But maybe Maiden is considered death metal? Not totally sure on that. 

Fair enough. 

I could never tell, back in the early 70s, if something was considered "heavy metal"  (probably still cannot).     I had even at one point thought of Alice Cooper,  ZZ Top and Foghat as "heavy metal".  Don't necessarily think  they fit there now.

By the way....what is "heavy metal" if it is not "hard rock"? 

 But mark mothersbaugh is certainly an accomplished musician.

WSS

[Edit]  Nothing specific on the Web

@the-gipper said:

Devo is from Akron.  They had always been considered Avant Garde,  more or less the progenitors of certain Punk,  New Wave and Alternative styles of rock.  Ergo, though you may call them a "one hit wonder"....their influence has gone far beyond that nomenclature as it applies to those particular genres. .  If the Rock Hall  is to include "influencers",  then Devo is a fair candidate for inclusion. 

Not being a heavy metal guy....is Iron Maiden the most iconic band ever of  heavy metal/death metal?  One of, maybe? ,  Do they surpass the likes of Black Sabbath or Metallica, and......I don't know, Led Zeppelin, if you wish to include LZ in that grouping.   Just asking as clearly you seem to be far more of a devotee of the style than I. 

I agree with you on Devo.

I’m not a huge heavy metal guy, but l have a few songs and bands l like amongst the genre. Sabbath is probably the other band that could be in the running for the most iconic label. Metalica is probably the most famous. Zeppelin l would label more hard rock, but not metal.

Death Metal is it’s own sub genre, probably the most iconic being Slayer. But maybe Maiden is considered death metal? Not totally sure on that.