@browns149 said:

I didn’t vote for Trump either time.

I sure as hell didn’t vote for Hillary. And and I didn’t vote for Biden either. 
 

So what does that make me? 

ok, we don't know who you DID vote for. You say you voted against Pres Trump both times. So, you voted against the over 200 good/great things he did for America. You voted against your own country's well being.

   So, you voted the second time to put bimbo biden into office. So, that makes you a democrat, you betcha

@browns149 said:

I didn’t vote for Trump either time.

I sure as hell didn’t vote for Hillary. And and I didn’t vote for Biden either. 
 

So what does that make me? 

Doesn't matter who you didn't vote for, who did you vote for?

WSS

@browns149 said:

Abortion. 

What about it? Abortion is not only constitutional but it's cheap easy to get and widespread. And it's not going away. And regardless of anybody's moral views it's a quick and relatively easy method of birth control. A lot easier than not blowing a load into some chick you hope to never see again. Abortion isn't my issue but I don't think people who are opposed to it on moral grounds are batshit crazy. Next?

WSS

@westside-steve said:

Sure but even though I can see positives on both sides of the spectrum I honestly believe most of the really batshit crazy stuff comes for the Democrats.

You are free to give me some examples that actually have a bearing on our day-to-day lives.

WSS

Abortion. 

@calfoxwc said:

Not buyin it. Did you vote for Pres Trump? or did you vote to the demise of your own country?

the latter means you most certainly are a dem.

I didn’t vote for Trump either time.

I sure as hell didn’t vote for Hillary. And and I didn’t vote for Biden either. 
 

So what does that make me? 

@browns149 said:

I’m not a Democrat. Don’t lump me in with them. I have left and right views

Just as I don’t want to be lumped in with Republicans either

It IS possible to have views on both sides

Even though this forum seems to be one or the other

Not buyin it. Did you vote for Pres Trump? or did you vote to the demise of your own country?

the latter means you most certainly are a dem.

@westside-steve said:

Sure but even though I can see positives on both sides of the spectrum I honestly believe most of the really batshit crazy stuff comes for the Democrats.

You are free to give me some examples that actually have a bearing on our day-to-day lives.

WSS

@browns149 said:

I’m not a Democrat. Don’t lump me in with them. I have left and right views

Just as I don’t want to be lumped in with Republicans either

It IS possible to have views on both sides

Even though this forum seems to be one or the other

Sure but even though I can see positives on both sides of the spectrum I honestly believe most of the really batshit crazy stuff comes for the Democrats.

You are free to give me some examples that actually have a bearing on our day-to-day lives.

WSS

@vambo said:

Democrats ruined it...you guys just need to admit it.

I’m not a Democrat. Don’t lump me in with them. I have left and right views

Just as I don’t want to be lumped in with Republicans either

It IS possible to have views on both sides

Even though this forum seems to be one or the other

@browns149 said:

I wasn’t trying anything. You guys are the ones claiming the Democrats are ruing California. When in fact the Republicans have had the Governorship for way longer the past 100 plus years. 

And then you claim it just recently went bad. It was just as crappy there when Arnold was in office. 

The state of. California is a wasteland of epic proportions. Regardless of who’s in charge 

Democrats ruined it...you guys just need to admit it.

@browns149 said:

I wasn’t trying anything. You guys are the ones claiming the Democrats are ruing California. When in fact the Republicans have had the Governorship for way longer the past 100 plus years. 

And then you claim it just recently went bad. It was just as crappy there when Arnold was in office. 

The state of. California is a wasteland of epic proportions. Regardless of who’s in charge 

It's 100 times worse now than when I lived in Los Angeles and San Diego.

@vambo said:

But it's just been recently the state went to crap as all Dem run states... but good try!

I wasn’t trying anything. You guys are the ones claiming the Democrats are ruing California. When in fact the Republicans have had the Governorship for way longer the past 100 plus years. 

And then you claim it just recently went bad. It was just as crappy there when Arnold was in office. 

The state of. California is a wasteland of epic proportions. Regardless of who’s in charge 

@browns149 said:

Pete Wilson. R governor from 1991 to 1999

Here’s the list

way more Republican then Democrats since 1900

https://www.nga.org/former-governors/california/

CALIFORNIA STEALIN’

@browns149 said:

Pete Wilson. R governor from 1991 to 1999

Here’s the list

way more Republican then Democrats since 1900

https://www.nga.org/former-governors/california/

But it's just been recently the state went to crap as all Dem run states... but good try!

@vambo said:

Pete Wilson. R governor from 1991 to 1999

Here’s the list

way more Republican then Democrats since 1900

https://www.nga.org/former-governors/california/

@browns149 said:

Hasn’t the overwhelming majority of Governors in California been Republicans? 

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Yes, but the mess they are in now was all created by liberal policies.

Fair enough