@calfoxwc said:

woodpecker always just pecks - he's a moron.

@mld-woody said:

Man you need to tone to the right wing media you're being fed... Way too far gone. 

I'll just leave you be for now.

If this was true from the few words I have sounded in your mind, psychiatry would make you a target of A.O.C......pssssssss, "TAX THE RICH" incase you don't follow the great author of T he gREen   N e w    dEAL "      "              "

Butttttttttttttttttttttttt....you are a fool!

@mld-woody said:

Right, because you definitely never just assume all liberal votes are for "free shit" or whatever you've convinced yourself of

Tell us your reason for voting for the Dems and don't use Trump as a reason because in 4 years, Trump's worse policy is 100x better than Biden's best.  You must like that fucked up look on Joe's face or the nipple pinching of children.........think about it...a fuckin pedophile and don't take my word, it's on film....good God  

Voting should be made more accessible, not less. If you support a party that's actively trying to make it harder to vote then you should stop and really think about that.

Now you are "assuming" that it is hard to vote!  Please tell the facts you possess that the vote is harder today than in the 1800's......Hell, the Dims even fill out the ballots for ya!

I mean, I know this board will just say something about "election fraud", just like those politicians want them too, so it's a lost cause. Hell, if you think there was voter fraud so massive that a presidential election was stolen you'll never question any attempts to restrict voting.

If we can leave 80 billion dollars worth of high tech killing weapons to the Tal-e-bon, one would think we have the crumbs to assure confidence for all Americans in our only say.....THE VOTE!!!!    Ask yourself why the Dims cried that no one is above the law as they let over 200,000 illegals cross our southern border...a 21 year high....why....remember, America is a shit hole and they want to break the laws, they create, to bring these great people here.  Why

P.S.  Universal is currently casting for the remake "Dumb & Dumber" and you would be perfect for either leading role. 

@mld-woody said:

"My guys"

I don't give two shits about the Dems

What have I supported that "promotes" voter fraud? 

Actually, never mind, don't bother. This is going to be a back and forth where you say anything that's expanding access is just promoting voter fraud. And if there are people that think massive fraud happened this election I don't think we'll ever see eye to eye on this topic at hand. 

We'll leave it here. (I mean, you won't. But I will).

As usual. Crawl off and whine when you've been beaten. That's your MO.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

"My guys"

I don't give two shits about the Dems

What have I supported that "promotes" voter fraud? 

Actually, never mind, don't bother. This is going to be a back and forth where you say anything that's expanding access is just promoting voter fraud. And if there are people that think massive fraud happened this election I don't think we'll ever see eye to eye on this topic at hand. 

We'll leave it here. (I mean, you won't. But I will).

@mld-woody said:

Right, because you definitely never just assume all liberal votes are for "free shit" or whatever you've convinced yourself of

 yes I convinced myself of s*** that's true too often. Sorry. 

Voting should be made more accessible, not less. If you support a party that's actively trying to make it harder to vote then you should stop and really think about that.

 and of course that lends itself to people that are too lazy or stupid or uninvolved to actually get up off their ass to go vote. 

I mean, I know this board will just say something about "election fraud", just like those politicians want them too, so it's a lost cause. Hell, if you think there was voter fraud so massive that a presidential election was stolen you'll never question any attempts to restrict voting. and conversely you will never oppose anything that promotes election fraud because it benefits your guys. Ironic ain't it?

@bigbambo said:

If you are not willing to make the same effort required to pick up a sandwich..........you probably don't care and are uniformed.  Yeah, some people won't do anything without being paid........see what you get?   

Man you need to tone to the right wing media you're being fed... Way too far gone. 

I'll just leave you be for now.

@westside-steve said:

Actually I could live with that. One would imagine that a citizen that went to work on a regular basis that had problems getting to the voting booth on time would vote one way and deadbeat sitting on the couch collecting welfare checks with no restrictions on their time whatsoever would vote the other.

(and before you go there not every not only not all)

WSS

Right, because you definitely never just assume all liberal votes are for "free shit" or whatever you've convinced yourself of

Voting should be made more accessible, not less. If you support a party that's actively trying to make it harder to vote then you should stop and really think about that.

I mean, I know this board will just say something about "election fraud", just like those politicians want them too, so it's a lost cause. Hell, if you think there was voter fraud so massive that a presidential election was stolen you'll never question any attempts to restrict voting.

@mld-woody said:

A lot going on here... A lot that sounds just like other posters on here, unfortunately.

But based on the end of your post, voting day should be a national holiday, right?

@gorka said:

Agree, and that is a reflection of the American voter. He earned a second term. Sadly American voters on the left like Woody and Hoorta are a part of significant number of emotional butt hurt snowflakes  triggered by what Trump says, how he looks , or how he acts. Many view the election as a merely a personality contest while refusing to acknowledge his accomplishments And that is flat out wrong. The democrat operative mainstream media also played an important role in influencing these voters.

I've always maintained that if Trump would just shut up or say the least as possible, and continue to work at MAGA that may have won that second term.

And I hate pandering to liberal fucksticks, they deserved everything Trump dished out at them.

I don't know how many times I said to myself I wish you would just s t f u. Still many of those times I agreed with him oh, often not. And often they were counterproductive. But I don't think that's what turned the election. If the covid pandemic hadn't happened and certain politicians that purposely tanked their own States economy he'd still be in office.

WSS

@mld-woody said:

A lot going on here... A lot that sounds just like other posters on here, unfortunately.

But based on the end of your post, voting day should be a national holiday, right?

Actually I could live with that. One would imagine that a citizen that went to work on a regular basis that had problems getting to the voting booth on time would vote one way and deadbeat sitting on the couch collecting welfare checks with no restrictions on their time whatsoever would vote the other.

(and before you go there not every not only not all)

WSS

@mld-woody said:

A lot going on here... A lot that sounds just like other posters on here, unfortunately.

But based on the end of your post, voting day should be a national holiday, right?

If you are not willing to make the same effort required to pick up a sandwich..........you probably don't care and are uniformed.  Yeah, some people won't do anything without being paid........see what you get?   

@bigbambo said:

Blah Blah Blah....I think I heard the same thing on fake news 1000x's.   The Dems have pulled off impeachment, makes a general wear women's undies, made Afghanistan look like a success, peaceful protest, summer of love and the beat goes on and on ......rigging an election would be a cake walk!  What rational explanation can one have for "no voter ID"?   The "VOTE" should be the most important thing an American can do......act like it and protect it cause no one should like a cheat.....

A lot going on here... A lot that sounds just like other posters on here, unfortunately.

But based on the end of your post, voting day should be a national holiday, right?

@baconhound said:

Was there election fraud, yes.  Did it move the needle, no.  Since elections began there has been fraud. Some as small as people not voting where they are legally residing to those that cast a vote as someone else.  Locally it could be an issue but for Senator or higher, moot.

Blah Blah Blah....I think I heard the same thing on fake news 1000x's.   The Dems have pulled off impeachment, makes a general wear women's undies, made Afghanistan look like a success, peaceful protest, summer of love and the beat goes on and on ......rigging an election would be a cake walk!  What rational explanation can one have for "no voter ID"?   The "VOTE" should be the most important thing an American can do......act like it and protect it cause no one should like a cheat.....

@gorka said:

LOL

And Biden is being treated equally as Trump was by the MSM.

And the Republicans have idiots to the level of AOC, Maxine Waters,  Sheila Jackson Lee, Pelosi and The Squad.

And there are just as many Conservative college professors as there are liberal.

And there is just as much violence, vandalism, and hate coming from the right as there is from the left.

Stop lying to yourself Woody.  The vast majority of documented voter fraud came from the left. That kind of  behavior is part of who they are.

I forgot to add that Kathy went ahead and made things fair an balanced.

@mld-woody said:

A lot of non answers still, which I expected. 

You either think voter fraud won him the election or it didn't. 

You are just being silly!  Do you think it would be wise to investigate the most important element of a democracy if there is questionable actions?  Why is the opposite happening......All of Fake News an even FOX has zero reporting on the AZ audit.......what MSM is hunting down and questioning the 3 people who sent everyone home and then started feeding the machines for hours....or who pulled the curtain on the observers or made them stand at the other end of the buildings.....would you like to know?  I would........because I have no problem loosing my wants to the majority, in a fair election.     

@mld-woody said:

I don't expect any rational conversation regarding the pandemic with most of the posters here.

If your head wasn't already fully up MAGA ass, you'd agree Trump screwed up the pandemic. Some will just point to his attitude, what he said, etc. and others will say he could have made a tangible difference. Regardless, the portion of the country that isn't already blindly following him would agree he screwed it up.

Trump stopped travel and was pissed on by Dems....sent Killer Cuomo a ship, respirators, PPE and a portable hospital, etc........

You think it's Trump that we "blindly follow".....it's what he says and what he does!  I wasn't a fan/follower of DJT and thought his decision to run was just another suit looking for an angle.  I didn't agree with all of Trump's tweets but I understand that real leaders cut to the chase and will call you out so, pull up your panties and get in the game of serving American CITIZENS!

@mld-woody said:

There's always some level of voter fraud, or at least attempts at fraud, and this election had examples on both sides. 

I'm not looking for any level on rationality in the answers. I'm just curious where everyone stands. Again, it's been danced around by some. This is an opportunity for posters to say where they stand. Some have taken that opportunity. 

 but you do need to understand that rational or not that some people, realizing how obsessed you are over a few people with strange ideas, or having Sport with you.

@mld-woody said:

You don't need to like a candidate enough to go to their rally to vote for them. 

You just need to like a candidate more than the other options. 

 No doubt you can always plant the lesser of two evils flag (or hedging your bet as we call it in the real world) but that means specifically that you have to eat the shit that you are served over the incompetence of the guy you voted in. (and what you think Trump would or wouldn't have done doesn't matter now)

WSS