Lawmakers have until Oct. 18 to lift the ceiling and avoid a default.

Because McConnell is as big a POS as anybody in Washington.

Well almost, but you know what I mean.

WSS

@baconhound said:

What did Obama inherit from W and where was it when he left office? 

I'm not sure what obama inherited from W......W is just another ass in a long line of asses.  I do know Obama/Biden really hurt this country and ran down our military.

If you would like to enlighten me with details, I would like to understand.

@bigbambo said:

I think Republicans controlled all 3 in 2016, no?

When you inherit a run down home it cost money to get it back to snuff....That is what Trump inherited from Obama/Biden.  Plus, Trump would have no help at all if he didn't go along with passing some of the crap, the crap that pays both republicans and Dims side money.  He also saved money by not supporting things like the WHO and the UN and received money from tariff restructures and USMCA.

What did Obama inherit from W and where was it when he left office? Better or worse?  It’s all out there and you may be surprised to know what W counted in the national Debt and what he didn’t.

@calfoxwc said:

btw, near as I can remember - the republicans have not controlled both houses of congress and the presidency since 2007.

that is fourteen years ago. The dems control both house and senate and presidency.

and look at the complete clusterfook damaging our country into the toilet, maybe beyond repair.

Not "both parties" - predominantly democratic. Like I posted, look at the results when reps had both house and senate, but a democrat president- bill clinton.

Most ALL Democrats <> some/a few republicans.

I think Republicans controlled all 3 in 2016, no?

When you inherit a run down home it cost money to get it back to snuff....That is what Trump inherited from Obama/Biden.  Plus, Trump would have no help at all if he didn't go along with passing some of the crap, the crap that pays both republicans and Dims side money.  He also saved money by not supporting things like the WHO and the UN and received money from tariff restructures and USMCA.

that is fourteen years ago. The dems control both house and senate and presidency.

and look at the complete clusterfook damaging our country into the toilet, maybe beyond repair.

Not "both parties" - predominantly democratic. Like I posted, look at the results when reps had both house and senate, but a democrat president- bill clinton.

Most ALL Democrats <> some/a few republicans.

@canton-dawg said:

It’s called buying votes.

Both parties are guilty of that.

to a degree, sure. But not one dem is calling for a balanced budget. Not one.

When Republicans controlled Congress - during bill clinton's time....

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Most republicans do support a balanced budget. But Congress controls the purse. Pres Trump had a hostile spendthrift dem congress, Reagan had a hostile dem congress (remember Tip O'Neil? NOT a pelosi).

https://www.quora.com/Which-US-presidents-balanced-the-budget?share=1

@bob806 said:

Cal, the 3rd paragraph says otherwise. $4.5 trillion added to the debt before the covid crap. 

No sense debating it really. We have two parties so far apart on so many policies & issues, so consensus & bipartisan cooperation are most certainly at an all time low. 

It’s called buying votes.

Both parties are guilty of that.

@calfoxwc said:

although, Pres Trump would NOT HAVE SPENT THAT MUCH, but he had your hardcore leftist antagonistic democratic party forcing the issue - make Pres Trump shut the gov down, helping them politically, or going ahead and having the gov spend more more money.

   It most certain IS a party thing - the dem party, Bob. That the reps go along with it too, is more by being in between a rock and a hard place.

Cal, the 3rd paragraph says otherwise. $4.5 trillion added to the debt before the covid crap. 

No sense debating it really. We have two parties so far apart on so many policies & issues, so consensus & bipartisan cooperation are most certainly at an all time low. 

@bob806 said:

Your concern is noted, just remember to read this link below.

Spending isn't just a party thing.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2021/05/28/bidens-costly-agenda-alarms-republicans-but-trump-spent-big-too/?sh=508afbf44ede

although, Pres Trump would NOT HAVE SPENT THAT MUCH, but he had your hardcore leftist antagonistic democratic party forcing the issue - make Pres Trump shut the gov down, helping them politically, or going ahead and having the gov spend more more money.

   It most certain IS a party thing - the dem party, Bob. That the reps go along with it too, is more by being in between a rock and a hard place.

WSS

@bob806 said:

Your concern is noted, just remember to read this link below.

Spending isn't just a party thing.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2021/05/28/bidens-costly-agenda-alarms-republicans-but-trump-spent-big-too/?sh=508afbf44ede

It's not a party thing by any stretch of the imagination.

And regardless of what it's being spent on again I have no doubt that there is enough graft and waste to cut it down more than 1 2 or 3%.

WSS

@bigbambo said:

They spent so much already and trying to pass a 3.5 trillion pork loin......how will Nancy travel the world looking for walls to paint that little angel George Floyd on?  Joe stated "Hunter can blow George on those walls for a mere 4 million each".  Nancy said "I usually only get a quarter, fifty cents if I take out my teeth". 

Your concern is noted, just remember to read this link below.

Spending isn't just a party thing.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2021/05/28/bidens-costly-agenda-alarms-republicans-but-trump-spent-big-too/?sh=508afbf44ede

More fear-mongering. These bastards just need to cut the entire budget from one end to the other by 1.5 or 2% or whatever it takes to get on track. I have no doubt they could find that much waste fraud graft Etc to cut out of any of those programs.

WSS