In rewatching the Vikings game l noted something about how the team employs substitutions, particularly on the D-line. During that first long drive every D-lineman got into the game, even seldom used Joe Jackson. 

Granted it was a long drive so the opportunity was there to get those guys in the game, but l like the idea of getting everyone involved and invested early on when the stakes are lower. In the past l’ve seen defenses live and die with the starters no matter what for that first drive and then would sub in other guys in subsequent drives.

I also kept an eye on Takitaki. They pretty much only put him in there if it’s a decent probability of being a run play, which is pretty smart. 

@sdbacker80 said:

I’ll show up again…

Texan game was a Woods clunker.

Woods JOK and our entire Dline have stepped up big time last two weeks. 

Give cred where cred is due... They have done well.. And maybe Woods is learning.. Chuck that prevent shit...

@tiamat63 said:

With our QB actively working against us...     

I need crickets...  fucking crickets from this thread for the next 30 days,  unless your post says "my bad".   

Thanks.

I’ll show up again…

Texan game was a Woods clunker.

Woods JOK and our entire Dline have stepped up big time last two weeks. 

@nickers said:

Because with each game.. Woods proves to me more and more he's a dumb mother fucker... Can him NOW!

With our QB actively working against us...     

I need crickets...  fucking crickets from this thread for the next 30 days,  unless your post says "my bad".   

Thanks.

@mjp28 said:

OMG in most FLs before the draft nobody wanted CLE they were way down the list.

But 9 sacks will help..... still 26 points is unreal for a D !

that combined with tucker got me 45 points  f-ing ratbirds should have lost vs Detroit

@atom said:

i started the Browns D in fantasy  got me all most 26 points

OMG in most FLs before the draft nobody wanted CLE they were way down the list.

But 9 sacks will help..... still 26 points is unreal for a D !

@dutch-oven said:

Might have been, in all seriousness, the most dominant Browns defensive game in their history. 

But I totally get what you are saying. With the amount of new guys on defense, along with the injuries the defense has suffered, I think we won't really get a bead on this defense until closer to midseason. I will say this - the defense in general was flying to the ball all day. The defense looked as athletic as I've ever seen from a Browns defense today. 

i started the Browns D in fantasy  got me all most 26 points

@nickers said:

It looks a hell of a lot faster without Mack Wilson and Takitaki.. Who in my view are lifetime special teamers...

Taki squared came on strong towards the end of the season last year. He’s not as speedy as a JOK (few are) but he has some thumpability that’s nice for run defense. He’s a good dude to have around for when we face a team with a good ground game like the Titans. 

@texasag1969 said:

And fast, fast, fast. Speed kills!?

It looks a hell of a lot faster without Mack Wilson and Takitaki.. Who in my view are lifetime special teamers...

@dutch-oven said:

 The defense looked as athletic as I've ever seen from a Browns defense today. 

And fast, fast, fast. Speed kills!?

@browns149 said:

It looked great. Hopefully they can do it next week against an established QB

For sure it will be a taller task next week. I figure a good chunk of the success today came because Fields couldn’t process reads and run for his life at the same.

@ibleedbrown said:

I’m not going to get overly excited because l think Justin Fields helped make the defense’s job a lot easier, but l’m hard pressed to remember a more dominant performance from a Brown’s defense for all 4 quarters of a game. Between the sacks and passes defended, they looked lights out. They recorded 7 passes defended, which means a full third of the attempted passes met a defender’s hand first. 

Credit where credit’s due, Woods had the guys on point for this one. Now let’s see if he can keep that trend going.

Might have been, in all seriousness, the most dominant Browns defensive game in their history. 

But I totally get what you are saying. With the amount of new guys on defense, along with the injuries the defense has suffered, I think we won't really get a bead on this defense until closer to midseason. I will say this - the defense in general was flying to the ball all day. The defense looked as athletic as I've ever seen from a Browns defense today. 

@ibleedbrown said:

I’m not going to get overly excited because l think Justin Fields helped make the defense’s job a lot easier, but l’m hard pressed to remember a more dominant performance from a Brown’s defense for all 4 quarters of a game. Between the sacks and passes defended, they looked lights out. They recorded 7 passes defended, which means a full third of the attempted passes met a defender’s hand first. 

Credit where credit’s due, Woods had the guys on point for this one. Now let’s see if he can keep that trend going.

It looked great. Hopefully they can do it next week against an established QB

Credit where credit’s due, Woods had the guys on point for this one. Now let’s see if he can keep that trend going.

@sdbacker80 said:

I hear you…while Tyrod is still a threat I don’t think he makes you want to abandon man all together.  Now Lamar…absolutely.  And Strangely we played man a ton in that late season shoot out against Lamar.

And Someone has to have some contain principles too against these running QBs  

You're confusing quarters vs straight man coverage.  We played a TON of quarters on early downs and man on long downs and distances.  Still didn't work.  

@sdbacker80 said:

Now Lamar…absolutely.

And Mahomes... who I was thinking of as I typed the reply.

Fields? I'd risk the odd extra rushing yard here and there for the confusion mixing in some man should bring... may just give him that added pause that allows him to be hit. A strip sack is the most delicious sack of all...

@tour2ma said:

Kiss of death vs. running QBs...

Sacks are overrated as a measure of a pass rush's effectiveness. While they are nice and sexy... Pressures, Hurries and Knock-downs are what you want to see pile up... with a nod to Offensive holds as well.

I get all of that... Woods is not getting the most out of his crew...

@tour2ma said:

Kiss of death vs. running QBs...

Sacks are overrated as a measure of a pass rush's effectiveness. While they are nice and sexy... Pressures, Hurries and Knock-downs are what you want to see pile up... with a nod to Offensive holds as well.

I hear you…while Tyrod is still a threat I don’t think he makes you want to abandon man all together.  Now Lamar…absolutely.  And Strangely we played man a ton in that late season shoot out against Lamar.

And Someone has to have some contain principles too against these running QBs  

@sdbacker80 said:

We have some cover guys now that can go man to man in our secondary.

Kiss of death vs. running QBs...

@nickers said:

Garrett's sack total is 1.5.

Sacks are overrated as a measure of a pass rush's effectiveness. While they are nice and sexy... Pressures, Hurries and Knock-downs are what you want to see pile up... with a nod to Offensive holds as well.