@browns149 said:

The line on DraftKings is down to Cle -3

There was a lot of value in Denver at +6. I see that went away fast.    Next value would be CLE -2.5.   Aside from the O/U I won't touch it until the injury report Wednesday.

@tiamat63 said:

If Conklin and Chubb are out I'm playing the under.  Might even take DEN to cover or ML.  -6 is steep.  

The line on DraftKings is down to Cle -3

@tiamat63 said:

If Conklin and Chubb are out I'm playing the under.  Might even take DEN to cover or ML.  -6 is steep.  

If the above plus #6, #27 and others aren't 100% it might be a real TNF  primetime game  for the ages.

"The BROWNS fight to stay above .500 and save their season !"      

@mjp28 said:

Well the TNF game opened at CLE -6 and now the consensus is now CLE -3.5.   I guess everyone has heard about the last game.

Check it out.  https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/?s=693

GO BROWNS,  minus 3.5  yeah I can live with that.

If Conklin and Chubb are out I'm playing the under.  Might even take DEN to cover or ML.  -6 is steep.  

Check it out.  https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/?s=693

GO BROWNS,  minus 3.5  yeah I can live with that.

@sdbacker80 said:

The Sore neck healed quickly 

I have a feeling it was a stinger. Very painful but goes away quickly. Anything with neck obviously has to be triple checked and you can't go back to the game. But he's back and desperately needed. Cardinals have 4 WRs over 200 yards. 

@gumby73 said:

The #Browns have designated Jarvis Landry to return from injured reserve. Landry can practice today and play against the Cardinals on Sunday after missing three games with a knee injury. It will be the first game Landry and Beckham are together since Game 6 last season.

Problem is, Jarvis doesn't generally throw it to OBJ. I'm so sick and tired of watching these film breakdowns where they illustrate play after play of Baker not getting him the effing ball. OBJ is extremely similar to Deondre Hopkins. Not quite as good, but they have similar abilities. Huge catch radius, crazy hands, etc. Now, just imagine...stay with me...imagine the Cardinals not throwing him the ball. WOULD NEVER FREAKING HAPPEN. 

OK...take a breath...take a breath. I can't explain the OBJ thing. All I know is that it's ruining Baker Mayfield. Baker doesn't know whether to shit or get off the pot. His feet are ALL over the place, his eyes are even WORSE, and his deep ball looks like a punt from my Aunt Ethel...and she's been dead for 30 years. Here's the stat of the day:  before the Hail Mary drive against Bolts, his average depth of target was 5 yards. FIVE YARDS! In perfect weather conditions. 5 yards. Not exactly "feeling dangerous". 

Not all hope is lost, obviously. We've seen Baker start out rather slowly before, right? As many opportunities as he missed last week, he still played a very solid game. He took care of the ball. He gave us a chance to win the game and his defense screwed him, the refs screwed him, and then they screwed him again on last drive when DPJ got ridden out of bounds. Oh, and his coach screwed him by not kicking the FG on the 4th down OBJ drop. We kick that FG and guess what? We don't need a TD, we need a FG...TO WIN. 

We're really banged up, but for some reason I'm optimistic. I'm going with the Browns. Jarvis coming back helps, losing Nick hurts but Felton will make some plays, and Harrison Bryant is my sneaky pick to have a big game with 2 tds. I'm 4-1 on the season. 

Browns 27

Cards 20

According to Field Yates of ESPN, Murray has been added to the Cardinals’ injury report because of a right shoulder issue. He did participate in the team’s practice, but in a limited capacity due to the issue. While Arizona did not reveal further details about the issue, Yates noted that the superstar quarterback received some medical attention during the closing stages of their Week 5 win over the San Francisco 49ers.

@sdbacker80 said:

The Sore neck healed quickly 

The uncanny world ? of sports medicine.     

@jiggins7919 said:

I like the sound of having Newsome, Ward, and Greedy. They're all playing barring setback. 

The Sore neck healed quickly 

@tiamat63 said:

Not touching this if the injury report doesn't clear up.  Will likely hammer the over, weather permitting.

I like the sound of having Newsome, Ward, and Greedy. They're all playing barring setback. 

@jrb12711 said:

It's always interesting too in regards to where the "sharp" money is going. When the Browns line first came out, it was IMO a pretty big fish on the line to hit the Cardinals +2.5. Seeing the Cardinals now getting +3 or +3.5 is honestly surprising to me, I figured the line was going to move much closer to Browns -1.5 or even -1. It's fascinating, for sure how it all works.

Sharp plays are either brilliant or Retarded.  No where in between.  

Saw a Vegas sharp try to tell people to bet Arky State and the points against Washington.  Sure, if you ignore the huge difference in the size and speed of the line play between the two.  Arky state is barely D-1. 

52-3, Washington.  Spread was 16.5

@tiamat63 said:

I've become more patient over the last year or so when locking in my wagers.  Injury reports are a huge deal, every bit as much as the lines themselves.  For example I saw a last second injury report for the giants on Sunday and, despite the fact the talking heads said the gmen defense would keep it close, I went in heavy on Cowboys to cover.  Worked a treat.   Same same for the KC-BUF gsme.  Saw Chris Jones was out and doubled down on BUF with the ML.

It's always interesting too in regards to where the "sharp" money is going. When the Browns line first came out, it was IMO a pretty big fish on the line to hit the Cardinals +2.5. Seeing the Cardinals now getting +3 or +3.5 is honestly surprising to me, I figured the line was going to move much closer to Browns -1.5 or even -1. It's fascinating, for sure how it all works.

Oh Ohio State is off this weekend.

October 17, 2021

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• Monday Night: Buffalo @ Tennessee (ESPN)

Another Lamar Jackson practice game…with a mobile RPO machine like Murray. Chandler Jones out hurts them on third down and obvious passing situations. 
 

-3 Vs. Cards not surprised.

-6 vs Broncos I’m very surprised. Short week two time zones for the Broncos who haven’t looked good at all lately. We could win a one sided affair 
 

@mjp28 said:

A lot of those things (wx, injuries, etc) are the game day and game time decisions when it comes to wagering. Most bets and picks I know by Tuesday or Wednesday of any week.

Field conditions and late scratches can alter that  -but-  sometimes I bet early and maybe bet against late to take advantage of the lines or call off a bet and you only risk the 10% vig at most and occasionally (rarely) hit the middle.  I've bet for over 40+ years and mainly for the fun of it, remember you never bet the rent and grocery money........ unless you like to be wet and hungry.   

I've become more patient over the last year or so when locking in my wagers.  Injury reports are a huge deal, every bit as much as the lines themselves.  For example I saw a last second injury report for the giants on Sunday and, despite the fact the talking heads said the gmen defense would keep it close, I went in heavy on Cowboys to cover.  Worked a treat.   Same same for the KC-BUF gsme.  Saw Chris Jones was out and doubled down on BUF with the ML.

@tiamat63 said:

Not touching this if the injury report doesn't clear up.  Will likely hammer the over, weather permitting.

A lot of those things (wx, injuries, etc) are the game day and game time decisions when it comes to wagering. Most bets and picks I know by Tuesday or Wednesday of any week.

Field conditions and late scratches can alter that  -but-  sometimes I bet early and maybe bet against late to take advantage of the lines or call off a bet and you only risk the 10% vig at most and occasionally (rarely) hit the middle.  I've bet for over 40+ years and mainly for the fun of it, remember you never bet the rent and grocery money........ unless you like to be wet and hungry.   

@jiggins7919 said:

I'm 4-1 on the season (blew the Vikings game) and I have a very strange feeling we're not just going to win, but we're going to put it ON them. I know that doesn't make sense, but I feel it. First game where offense, defense, and special teams all play well. We're getting a defensive TD or special teams score, it's time. 

Browns 31

Cards 19

And in the FWIW department the line is still CLE -3 across the board plus next Thursday night CLE -6 hosting DEN just a week away.

I like CLE -3 but it would be better if a few more hands were on deck and ready to play, AZ is still the only 5-0 team left in the NFL.  A strange number going into WEEK 6 I think the 72 Dolphins are really safe that might end this Sunday starting at 4:05.